Batman Fans Will Go On And On About How Much All The Other JLA Members Suck And Then Imagine Scenarios

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Jason Todd is the meme lord of all the batkids and u can't convince me otherwise

I will never forgive dc for what they did to Roy. RHATO Roy isn't Roy Harper he just happens to share the same name, that's how different he is. Roy has always been an incredibly important character who grew immensely from when he first appeared to joining the justice league. Even before the end of post-crisis dc was already doing him dirty by killing Lian and having him relapse. RHATO would have been so much better if it had a more accurate Roy (and kory for that matter) who teamed up with Jason cause he could see the similarities between them and wanted to help him just as Dinah helped him. Also Roy should have been the leader of the team as he you know actually led the titans for a while there and has proven himself to be a good leader whilst Jason (at least I think personally) isn't really the leader type.

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Roy Harper is an incredibly rich character with a history that spans nearly 80 YEARS and it is a DAMN SHAME that RHATO forced him into a position in which he will either be forever known as a Jason Todd supporting character or be forgotten entirely. The fact of the matter is that RHATO was a badly written book that wrote Roy unacceptably and unremorsefully out of character. The only saving grace was that were good moments within the interpersonal relationships of the characters, and evidently that was enough for people to latch onto the book. It is not a coincidence that most of the book’s avid fans consisted of new readers or Jason stans who either didn’t know anything about Roy to begin with, or just flat out didn’t care about anything other than his relationship in regards to Jason. However, despite being one of seemingly millions of examples of how anything can be popular if it has a shipable ship regardless of quality, the impact that it’s made on a character that hasn’t been an A lister in a long time has been catastrophic. Very few people know or care about Roy outside the context of RHATO and because of the internet, it will never quite be forgotten. And if Roy does in fact die during Heroes in Crisis, I think that not only is this a slap in the face to people who are actually fans of Roy, but is an immense loss to comic book history as a whole. Roy is one of the few characters who has been there since basically the beginning and has endured the test of time. He’s been part of things that literally paved the way for every aspect of the modern comic book industry. I doubt he’ll stay dead forever, but the supporting cast doesn’t usually come back right away, and part of me is afraid that Roy has strayed too far the public eye for editorial to ever really consider him useful again.

Kind of thinking about how Wally resented Kyle taking over Hal's place and seeing it from the pov that Hal and other heroes doubted Wally's ability to fill Barry's shoes as did Wally himself. But here comes this brand new kid who didn't even grow up a superhero like Wally did and everyone suddenly trusts him to fill his Uncle Hal's shoes. And that was so evidently Wally and Ollie's problem someone else was wearing the ring and Hal wasn't there. But for Wally that level of reassurance he needed was given to Kyle in the form of acceptance everyone nodded and said okay cool new GL when they didn't do that for Wally as the Flash. And to dig the knife deeper Wally begged Hal said it's me your nephew listen to me and Hal tossed him aside. But Kyle who didn't know Hal at all managed to get through to him and talk him down. So I think Kyle was just a list of bad reminders for Wally and Ollie and they couldn't handle seeing him around. To add even more insult to injury Hal adored Kyle and clearly was never going to share a sentiment of bitterness about his replacement

The real tragedy of the whole “Batman contingency plans” thing escaping containment into the wider cultural zeitgeist is that it’s become completely divorced from the original context of, you know, the Tower of Babel story-line happening after a beloved member of the Justice League did in fact go mad, become all-powerful, and destroy all of reality.

Which is devastating because it loses so much when you take Hal Jordan out of it! In both adaptations and fan discussions!

Despite only being mentioned by name once in the story, Hal haunts the whole narrative in how unspoken he is. The whole theme of the story is the failure to communicate and how it destroys trust, and an essential part of that is how the whole League won't (and can't) talk about Hal.

When Kyle finally tries to bring him up, Wally shoots him down. He is the forbidden topic at the heart of the League's breakdown of trust!

When the contingency plans plot is removed from the context of Hal's fall from grace, isn't proceeded by a JLA founding member doing what was supposed to be unthinkable, Bruce's actions lose their emotional core. It becomes just "Batman is the coolest and smartest and also a huge untrusting asshole" instead of "Bruce was already on the knife-edge of crippling paranoia regarding his powerful allies, and then one of those same allies started slaughtering people and he couldn't do a thing to stop it, confirming all his worst fears and sending him right over the edge"

You take Bruce's feelings of very personal betrayal out of the equation. He's not operating on just hypotheticals, but fears that were heartrendingly justified!

Bruce claims the reason for his plans on some past mind-control incident, but Clark calls Bruce out on it being an excuse.

Maybe that's how it started, but there's a reason the fail-safes aren't against mind-control and possession. The fail-safes are ways to permanently stop your friends should they willingly or unwillingly become a threat.

And they both know it. They've argued about Hal several times before.

Bruce has a lot of unresolved feelings about Hal. He's still hurting.

The contingency plans are not some cold, clinical necessity. They are the product of pain.

I think all readings and tellings of the Tower of Babel should be followed by the JLA/Spectre story.

It provides the necessary emotional conclusion to the unspoken conflict! Because they finally have to talk about it! They heal the broken trust! Bruce admits how much Hal's betrayal hurt him and his faith in heroes, and gets past it! Instead of letting a former and potential future threat be eliminated as his fail-safes say he should, he invites the threat back, even if he can't guarantee it won't happen again, because he chooses to believe in his friend!

The contingency plans are a cool and interesting concept, but again, you can't just...take Hal out of it. You can't make it about some evil alternate versions, or about Clark. By doing that, you lose the most heartbreaking part of the story. Batman isn't in the right or the wrong, but he's not heartless. He's brokenhearted.

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I was thinking about Jason’s resurrection and how it was never really explained. I still don’t have an explanation, but I started wondering if he was the only one this had happened to. So the symptoms that I know are that he was like a zombie—confused, disoriented, easily frightened, pale, disheveled. Right? And supposedly the Lazarus Pit is what brought out his unhinged rage.

I don’t think that’s the case because Damian didn’t have those symptoms, at least not that I’ve seen. (And apparently Cass used the Pit as well? And I’ve never seen her shown as displaying a Jason-level rage.) You have to remember that my comics background is very light, but also the comics are a mess, I stick to the narrow band of consistent characteristics, fight me.

So, returning to Jason’s so-called Pit madness, what if the Pit wasn’t the cause of the rage? 

What if the ABSOLUTELY UNMANAGEABLE LEVELS OF STRESS caused by being violently murdered, stitched back together, and then having to DIG YOURSELF OUT OF YOUR OWN COFFIN ONLY TO DISCOVER THAT YOUR FAMILY REPLACED YOU were the true origin of his issues? 

And all the Pit was responsible for was making him lucid enough to express that fairly quickly and also erasing his physical injuries?

If you accept this premise, then you get something very interesting. What if ~someone~ died in a similarly awful fashion and was raised by this unknown power, but did NOT have the baptism by Pit? What would you have then?

You would have a confused, disoriented person still bearing the scars of their death and whatever psychological trauma that was a part of them when they died compounded by likely also digging themselves out of their own grave. Their trauma would likely be amplified by the time it would take to piece back together what little was left of their mind after being resurrected. 

Now assume this person had no Talia to direct their rage. Oh and the pale-as-death skin. Don’t forget that. You could even, feasibly, add in a small backstory about this person being taught as a child to laugh at their fears. 

So you have a psychologically unhinged, physically damaged person with death-madness, no fixed point for their rage, unerased scars from whatever killed them, unnaturally pale skin, and terror out the wazoo because haiiiii murdered and resurrected six feet underground, and then they remember to laugh at their fears. 

What do you get?

Reminder that Damian doesn't hate Tim. He wants his approval

I'm just having a good time scribbling and maybe I'll find a consistent style, maybe I won't, but I love Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown and so I also sketched Steph after I had posted these Cass doodles and then I don't think I ever posted it.