i cant believe i ship a person with herself
straight from cannon confirmed .
ep.8 deleted scene?????
WHY IN THE WORLD ARE SIX TEENY WINGS AND A SAD WIMPY SIDE OF FIRES AND NO DRINK????? WORTH 12 DOLLARS
One thing I’ve noticed is that most people in the atla fandom aren’t invested in discussing any trauma experienced directly by war and tend to value “more commonly known trauma”.
Zuko getting burned? Being unloved? Having anger issues due to it? Desperately wanting his father’s love?
Everyone understands this in the fandom and explains all his behavior through these lenses.
Iroh losing his son. Sokka wanting to prove himself to his father and be a leader is relatable to many kids trying to grow up and fill shoes expected of them. Toph wanting her parents to understand her.
These are all things many people relate to in some way. Without having to have lived through war.
It’s why most Mai haters don’t even hate her for supporting the Fire Nation. Many don’t recognize that’s a problem. They hate her for how she acts around Zuko. Another relationship issue that can exist outside of a war situation.
Sometimes I get the vibe that people hate Mai for supposedly NOT being loyal to the Fire Nation (apparently calling her selfish and uncaring for her own people).
It’s why people have difficulty understanding Ty Lee also participated in taking down Ba Sing Se and harming many people in the process. And why it’s severely problematic that she just joined Suki.
It’s why Zuko’s racist and sexist lines throughout the show get tossed aside because he had a “redemption arc”. You don’t unlearn things you were taught to believe your whole life that quickly. Even the most sincere person would stumble and say something harmful or unwittingly carry harmful and racist beliefs.
It’s why his pathetic apology to Suki for burning her village is glossed over, like actual people couldn’t have died then. Like it’s so easy to forgive losing your home like that.
It’s why Iroh losing his son is so important and connects to his relationship with Zuko, which apparently makes Iroh good. Yeah, Iroh did bad things whatever those were, but it’s all good now. Anyone who is angry at him just lost their way and needs some tea and wisdom. Anger is not the answer.
His actions in the war are an afterthought. Other characters will get headcanons stretching any action in the most negative light:
Azula burning a doll
Aang kissing Katara without permission
Mai not giving in to Zuko’s every whim
Jet wanting Zuko to join the Freedom Fighters
Notice again, none of these things are exclusive to war. Even when people write Iroh negatively, it’s more on how he doesn’t help Zuko or doesn’t offer any help to Azula.
No one questions why he met dragons and still continued to conquer land. Few people discuss how very not wise it was of him to finally stop supporting the fn after his son died.
Even when people say he was indoctrinated and that’s hard to get out of—-
then why do you hate on Azula? Why is it not hard for her?
Because she lied to Zuko. Because she worked for Ozai who abused Zuko. This is why Azula is at times more hated than Ozai. It’s not because of her actions in war. It’s because Zuko views her as this big obstacle that he agonizes trying to beat.
Again, not fully related to war.
Zuko and Azula and Ty Lee and Mai worked to conqueror BSS? Azula is the evil one.
This seems less like the suffering of the victims are being prioritized and more like a character who’s already hated is facing even more hate.
Jet floods a village. People still hate him more for manipulating Katara. To them he’s not horrible because he flooded a village. He’s horrible because he used Katara first and then he flooded a village.
Jet is seen as the abusive and manipulative boyfriend. Or an out of control angered teenager “whose prejudice killed him”.
There’s little discussion on why he would flood Gaipan. The most common is that he was angry. Or he wanted to spread pain. Nothing about facing actual danger or who was living there or that maybe the Fire Nation could decide to burn the forest if they got fed up.
His trauma is vaguely acknowledged and only to further show how dangerous he is to others. Being suspicious of Zuko is deemed as stalking. Stealing from the ferry is labelled as evil and proof he didn’t change from Book 1 despite being given to other refugees. In fact Jet is the only one seen giving out food.
Jet grew up an orphan in a forest with other orphans under him and a very common take is that he’s like a cult leader trying to get more people to brainwash. He can’t let go of the war because of anger and extremism. His trauma makes him dangerous and not uwu and in need of help and love like Zuko’s.
People think Katara could forgive Zuko easily but not Jet. Because Jet manipulated her. And Zuko just tried to kill her and her brother and capture the Avatar thus taking away hope for winning the war…
These are on entirely different levels. There is also the fact that Zuko invaded her home and made her experience what happened when her mother died all over again.
But that’s okay because Zuko apologized and he was traumatized, and Katara has a big heart. But bring Jet into the equation and it’s not even whether he apologizes or not; most decide Katara would never forgive him.
Again, trauma and consequences of war are devalued. None of Jet’s trauma beyond anger is acknowledged and still it’s only to condemn him for hating the fn. Which would be entirely understandable if people looked at it through the context of war.
The same way Azula hate would lessen if people were to recognize everything she did was because her nation expected soldiers to. She wasn’t a singular evil, reveling in Zuko’s suffering. She was following orders from her leader and serving her nation.
Which people could recognize if they think “Zuko got his scar from being disobedient” and “maybe the same could happen to Azula”.
“Azula is horrible to her friends” and not she’s the freaking princess they have to obey her by law she completely outranks them she is in fact showing a human side by allowing them room to treat her like a friend.
“Jet needs to let go of his anger” and not witnessing your family and home killed for no reason and seeing dozens of other children face the same thing and then having to fend for yourself in a forest because not even your own people want to care for you and no matter how much anger and grief you feel nothing happens and no one is coming to help you and now it’s your job to protect other children and you never asked for any of this and why won’t this stop and you have every right to be angry
I could go on, but this is also why many don’t relate to Aang. Yeah he lost his people but–
I’m sorry what?
Genocide is something plenty of people can understand and plenty of people don’t and unfortunately the people who don’t tend to make it hard for survivors to speak about it or be angry and want justice.
Aang should have all the justification to be angry. He should have all the justification to run away from his responsibilities. He is a child meant to save the world and everyone he loves is gone. His nightmares of finally facing Ozai are made into a joke about school to be more relatable to kids. Personally I think that even if many kids wouldn’t understand the genocide aspect, they could understand why Aang would be anxious.
Almost all of the fandom loves Toph because she’s always right and rough and amazing and again very few question her line of “not my problem” to helping in the war. Most don’t discuss how her wealthy life would have shielded her entirely from the war, making it difficult for her to understand any of the Gaang’s trauma.
One might say “it’s a kid show so they couldn’t show too much of war”.
They had Zuko burned and screaming. They had Katara about to kill someone in cold blood. They had Toph almost fall to her death. They had Hama in chains in a cell for years. They had animal abuse. They had brainwashing and women with no other role than to be puppets.
Even if they couldn’t show too much of war, they should have toned down the amount of humanization the Fire Nation got.
Basically I feel like this stems from how people experience trauma outside of war and how it’s become more acceptable to speak about it, but people who have suffering from war and colonization still aren’t welcomed enough and aren’t heard in online spaces and it really shows in this fandom sometimes.
THANKS A LOT OP NOW IVE FALLEN FOR ANOTHER RAREPAIR :((((
It really would’ve been interesting to see these 2 together 😂
Everything here honestly
Stromae wrote Ma Meilleure Ennemie about a couple who both love and hate each other. We hear both of their perspectives through his and Pomme's individual verses which seem to directly allude to Ekko and Jinx's feelings for each other (later confirmed by the AMV). It was such a turning point for timebomb because it was the first instance of the ship appearing to be more than just a one-sided crush on Ekko's part.
The Coldplay remix goes back to square one with an additional yearning verse for Ekko but yet again nothing from Jinx's POV, making the relationship portrayed in the song unbalanced. Normally, I would be floored by the unashamedly down-bad lyrics - but in the context of how Ekko's character was reduced entirely to his relationship with Jinx and her development in season 2 - all these lyrics about him worshipping her like a goddess just leave a sour taste in my mouth.
Ahahaha i love this
i made another one……
to clarify i think most of the characters join in the smash or pass game at first but then gradually stop playing but Vi and Jayce keep it up the entire time 😭
also i made this template myself so i’ll post the blank version in case anyone wants to try
Love Gray but this and the ending in general pmo so bad. Also would like to add that “ACME” dropping in and doing the thing Carmen has dedicated years of her life to fighting in one full swoop doesnt get talked about enough…like can u imagine how she mustve felt about that? Nothing ab that ending was happy for Carmen. I mean, she has to sit with the realization that she spent 6 months as a living manifest of everything she hated, is forced to contend with the fact that she probably killed ppl, has to see her life goal fulfilled mostly by someone else, AND feels the need to leave her found family behind because she thinls thats the best thing she can do for them as she doesnt deserve to be arpund them. And then she runs off to Argentina like meeting her mom will magically fix all of these giant bleeding bullet wounds in her mental health and heart.
In spite of being supposedly “women-led” and centered around female empowerment, Carmen Sandiego’s most well written snd complex characters apart from Carmen herself are Chase Devineaux, Gray Calloway, and Shadowsan. Like that is absolutely ridiculous. Your show thats marketed for its brown female lead actually sidelines said lead to prop up 3 male characters, 2 of which are white? (This is not a diss btw - i enjoy all 3 of these characters and i am NOTTT saying white and/or male characters dont deserve to be written well. Just understand that one of this shows selling point was brown female lead soooo the mental gymnastics to ignore that and prop up characters who dont fit that well at all ks low key wild.
i love gray he is my favorite
never will shut up abt him
BUT i can never get over this show having him being the reason vile is exposed. HOW DO YOU EVEN WRITE SOMETHING LIKE THAT
the show is called carmen sandiego but not even the titular main character, who has devoted EVERYTHING we see of her in the show to taking down vile, takes it down. Not even her found family takes it down in her place, to show that the bonds forged with people outside of your controlling family can leave such an amazing impact. NOT EVEN ACME TAKES VILE DOWN. like i wouldve preferred maybe julia and chase going behind chief's back to use acme resources to do their own investigation, but still, to not even have the organization built on stopping vile get that moment is insane.
hell maybe even carmen's old classmates defecting slowly could be worth something thematically
yeah no lets have the guy who was literally
a) meant to be the narrative vehicle for carmen to info dump the backstory in the first episode and intended to be written out
b) was bonked in the head with amnesia and only made a brief reappearance in one ep is s1 and an ep in s2 and no speaking lines in "s3"
c) had a focus in the first half of s4 which ended with him picking vile in the end only to have another change of heart the moment he returns as an antag in the final two eps
be the guy responsible for leaking vile to acme. no high stake rescue mission or final heist or deep investigation. nope just some guy tattle tale-ing lol to bring down an entire criminal organization.
yay female empowerment (jk kinda this show is good at writing female characters as just normal characters but it does greatly rub me the wrong way that carmen get side-lined in the finale of her own show by gray and shadowsan and yet the show claims to be empowering. easily could just be a writing issue tho and nothing to do with gender)
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