This is now my discourse sideblog. Unless it's extremely, uncompromisingly vital that all 411 of my followers see it, I will redirect all discourse here.
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20 years old
Brazilian
L2 English speaker
College student (History)
Assorted positions:
Pro-Technocracy
Pro-United Nations
Esperantist
Anti-racist
Anti-communist
Neutral on monarchy/republic
Pro-LGBTQ rights
Pro-Trans rights
Transandrophobia "truther"
Pro LGBTQ inclusionism
Proship
i want people to get it into their heads that you can still be transphobic if you're a trans person. literally the most vile transphobia i've ever been faced with has been at the hands of other trans people. i have had trans women in my life tell me that i'm not a man because i don't have a penis. being trans does not absolve you from all potential transphobic beliefs you held before you realized you were trans. we all have to unlearn transphobia. you can get off your high horse and acknowledge that you have the capability to be transphobic towards other trans people.
"tmes' genders are just a transmisogynistic stereotype"
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"TiMs' genders are just a misogynistic stereotype"
Radical Feminism logic
misogyny:
calling people the name they want
males wanting to be feminine (imitating/mocking women)
males wanting to be women (invading safe spaces)
males wanting to be masculine (putting down women)
males wanting to be feminist (performative)
females wanting to be feminine (gives in to the patriarchy)
females wanting to be men (gives in to the patriarchy)
feminism:
not calling people the name they want (they’re delusional hehe)
saying intersex people are just deformed perisex people (‘male’ intersex and ‘female’ intersex)
harassing minors on tumblr
harassing a minority on tumblr (the gay people website)
denying history (OF COURSE there weren’t trans people at stonewall trans people were invented in 2005 when a man wanted to see women naked)
cutting off part of a group to make the group more palatable for opponents of the group (not going to work and ostracizes some of your best allies)
like a lot of time transmasculine "victimhood" is not about the transmasculine person themself. it's about the abstract ideal daughter that is grafted onto their body. when people talk about protecting their daughters from themselves, they mean they must kill the evil dyke to save the fantasy of a good daughter/future wife and mother. it's the same thing that happens with ageism towards children, where your "real" identity is the value you represent to society, and you- the consciousness driving the body- can and will be punished if you are seen as threatening that hypothetical person they need you to be. transmasculine people are not seen as innocent. their body represents the sexual labor society demands of them, and the social failure inside the body has to be beaten and forced into submission to protect the body.
Just saw a thumbnail where a YouTuber I really respect shouted out Trans/Rad/Fem (very enthusiastically) and after months of you pointing out how the whole ideology being based in radical feminism & after seeing how Thalia Blatt views other members of the trans community —
Ralph Wiggum voice: I’m in danger!
And I will give the video a fair shake when I have the emotional capacity & time for it but fuck, what a thing to wake up to. Like, cool, we’re breaching containment to the big leagues.
I'm really exhausted with someone as transmisogynistic as her regularly being held up as an icon of transfeminism but thankfully she's incapable of controlling herself so with any luck her next inevitable violent blow up at other trans women will finally get people to drop her.
To be one hundred percent clear, I'm not being glib, Talia Bhatt has a record of telling trans women to kill themselves, calling them slurs, and holding grudges over them living their lives in ways she disapproves of that erupt into ragefully attacking them in front of her very large audience, and this is literally a benefit we should actually truly be thankful for because it increases the chances the popularity of her and her transphobic ideas will not stick. She has a demonstrable lack of impulse control that makes it more difficult for her to keep the mask of Based Transfeminist on, which is fantastic news for everyone who'd prefer a virulent transmisogynist not be directing transfeminism.
Gee, I’d like to never have to mention having been AFAB again. If only it weren’t painfully relevant to how laws are applied to me and how the past has shaped me and how transphobes perceive me and
Ok, I want to preface this by asking you to please not immediately react with denial, anger, or accuse me of neglecting other groups, or just being uneducated.
Look up
'trans people india'
'trans people pakistan'
'trans people bangladesh'
'trans people malaysia'
'trans people turkey'
'trans people afghanistan'
'trans people tajkistan'
Look at interviewers, new reporters, trans life accounts, descriptions of trans communities, trans activists, autobiographies, protests, everything.
And ask yourself.
And do not balk, or accuse me of saying trans men are the most oppressed group in the world,
When I tell you they are enslaved. Or married. Or dead.
You know, the argument that saying trans men don’t have male privilege is misgendering is actually really fucking annoying because privilege is not like. Anything intrinsic to who you are. You don’t have it by default as a result of your identity. It’s something you get as a result of the systems in power.
A deeply closeted trans man who has spent every waking moment living as a “cis woman” due to not socially transitioning due to being in an actively dangerous environment that won’t allow him to is still a man. If you argue that he has to have male privilege because he’s a man then you are not basing your theory on reality but on your own imagination. If you argue he isn’t actually a man because he doesn’t have male privilege then you just don’t see trans men as men.
If you equate manhood with access to male privilege then you just don’t see trans men as men. Or, best case scenario and it only applies if you’re a trans man, you’re turning to patriarchy as a source of gender validation when we should be dismantling the patriarchy. For your own sake, you absolutely need to have a concept of what your gender means to you and a source of validation for that gender that exists outside of patriarchy. If misogyny and by extension male privilege dissolves into nothingness tomorrow, what is it that makes you a man? You don’t need to answer that immediately, but you do need to at least think about it.
for all it seems like they enjoy talking about how they're pushing forwards theory and advancing the understanding of transphobia etc by... let's see... claiming that trans women are the most oppressed and should always get priority, that trans mascs are bad and untrustworthy because men bad, and that any trans women who disagree with them must not actually be trans women... hm.
...despite those, uh, self-evidently "effective" methods of advancing understanding of trans issues, i find myself wondering.
do trfs understand ideas as basic as "misgendering trans people is bad"? like. they clearly understand "misgendering trans women is bad", but do they understand that it's because it's a specific example of "denial of the agency and identity of trans people as a whole", rather than because "men bad yuck gross"?
they seem to be aware for the most part that trans women are often treated as whatever gender is convenient for bigots and bigoted systems to harm them, but do they understand that that happens to trans people as a whole? that when, say, trans men are framed as "women" by society, it's usually not to their benefit? that erasure is, in fact, a thing that happens to trans people?
if the conclusions they're led to by their theory leave me wondering if they're aware of some of the most obvious, simple, and basic elements of, you know, transphobia... maybe that theory isn't very good.
do trfs understand ideas as basic as "misgendering trans people is bad"?
Let's ask!
@fleshengine Was thicced-witch wrong to do this, or do you still trust she had a good reason?
For optional bonus points, you may elect to give your opinion on this:
the main reason i am such an active advocate for trans solidarity and trans unity is precisely because i know from experience how much adopted radfem ideas hurts the trans community.
i used to hate myself for being a trans man! i used to believe i wasn't truly oppressed despite the very real transandrophobia i faced! i used to make "i hate all men too don't worry im sorry for my fellow men" jokes! and it made me fucking feel like shit!
as an older and wiser man, i now know the difference between productive discussions of misogyny, and straight up radfem bootlicking!
if i can find at least one trans boy like i was and help them unlearn what i thought as a baby trans, i would be the happiest man alive
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