If You're Going To Claim That A Country Is Evil But Also Threaten To Harm People Who Have Left That Country,

Hello, here to remind people that this discourse is hurting nonbinary people as well, especially nonbinary transmascs.

Please include your nonbinary siblings in your advocacy, and don’t forget to uplift their voices as well. The assholes calling people “theyfabs” and denying the existence of transandrophobia aren’t just out to get trans men.

Half the posts I see are about "theyfab trender tme they/hes", they hate nonbinary people too.

Trans men are left out of the conversation far too often; please don't repeat the same mistake with a different group.

I'm just gonna say it: people using the term "transandrobros" gives me the exact same vibe as people saying "feminazis".

If hatred is what fuels your activism, then your activism is probably bullshit

not to sound blunt but the idea that a trans woman who raises her voice or is rude or speaks over someone else is behaving in a uniquely male manner is just blatantly misogynistic and i don't think you need a gender studies degree to understand that

Please stop forgetting nonbinary people!

Theyfab isn't a transmasc-specific slur. It's always been used against any nonbinary person assumed to be AFAB.

Though the AGAB of nonbinary people is nobody's business in the first place, it bears repeating that not every AFAB nonbinary person is transmasculine, just as not every AMAB nonbinary person is transfeminine.

These bigots aren't just transphobic towards trans men/mascs, they're exorsexist as well. We'll be stronger if we stick up for each other and push back against them together!

Edit: Just to make it clear, theyfab is being used against transmascs as well! I just want people to also acknowledge the non-transmasc nonbinary people being hurt.

So tumblr just recommended me an "anti-feminist" "men's rights activist" post and like

The message of the post is wonderful, I personally think we should uplift men more, but at the same time it makes me think about how we as a society treat men's rights.

Men's rights are seen as the antithesis to "modern" feminism (we'll get to that later.) Rather than an accompanying movement. Why is it that people believe uplifting one group must come at the cost of putting someone else down? There are not a finite amount of rights to be given, everyone can and should be treated with the respect that they deserve.

You most often see men's rights posts associated with MGTOW or some other sexist, anti-feminist ideology, and because of that, people tend to dismiss any and all men's rights content without thinking. That drives men to feel that their only option for support and validation is accounts that are also constantly putting down women and "modern" feminists.

But the idea of "modern" feminism is laughable at best. MGTOWS will paint this picture of a lazy, ugly, angry woman who is demanding special treatment simply because she has a vagina. Are there people like that who call themselves feminists? Absolutely, but anyone that takes more than a surface dive into the movement with an open mind will see just how far women's rights still have to go.

But blogs like this will still use that picture of the horrible "misandrist modern feminist" to pit people against each other when really what we should be doing is coming together. Historically, feminists have not shied away from issues that also affect men, but you'll also find that many feminists will even focus on issues specific to men.

Men deserve more positivity posts and safe spaces that don't come from blogs that spout misogynistic viewpoints. Men deserve to be uplifted, because so often, we all forget that when it comes to emotional development, they get left by the wayside. Men deserve to be told that they're valuable and good people, because so often this website vilifies them.

But the only way to do that successfully is to remove the stigma around men's rights accounts that they're all MGTOW anti-feminists and the only way to do that, is to make better blogs about men's rights that don't divide us.

Men's rights should work in tandem with women's rights, not against them. Everyone deserves to be respected, and the first step is to respect each other.

The thing about internet discourse intellectuals that will really rub me the wrong way, is they will be like, 'you don't fit my Very intellectual framework, so I think you are a dangerous force and should die screaming,' with no self awareness on how embarrassing their arrogant callousness is, as well as it being, in fact, reactionary and not Very Intellectual.

Whenever I see people talking about trans men not being oppressed, I remember that video I saw a few years back when an older trans woman was asked why there weren't more trans men from her generation and she said they were still forced into the roles of women and took their own lives because of it.

for all it seems like they enjoy talking about how they're pushing forwards theory and advancing the understanding of transphobia etc by... let's see... claiming that trans women are the most oppressed and should always get priority, that trans mascs are bad and untrustworthy because men bad, and that any trans women who disagree with them must not actually be trans women... hm.

...despite those, uh, self-evidently "effective" methods of advancing understanding of trans issues, i find myself wondering.

do trfs understand ideas as basic as "misgendering trans people is bad"? like. they clearly understand "misgendering trans women is bad", but do they understand that it's because it's a specific example of "denial of the agency and identity of trans people as a whole", rather than because "men bad yuck gross"?

they seem to be aware for the most part that trans women are often treated as whatever gender is convenient for bigots and bigoted systems to harm them, but do they understand that that happens to trans people as a whole? that when, say, trans men are framed as "women" by society, it's usually not to their benefit? that erasure is, in fact, a thing that happens to trans people?

if the conclusions they're led to by their theory leave me wondering if they're aware of some of the most obvious, simple, and basic elements of, you know, transphobia... maybe that theory isn't very good.

do trfs understand ideas as basic as "misgendering trans people is bad"?

Let's ask!

@fleshengine Was thicced-witch wrong to do this, or do you still trust she had a good reason?

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