If you see a trans man speak up about his community in a discussion he has every right to be in, and your first instinct is to tell him he sounds like an MRA saying "What about men," then you are not an ally to trans men.
When you talk about trans history that impacted and impacts trans men, expect trans men to speak up about themselves. When you talk about reproductive justice, expect trans men to talk about themselves. When you talk about living under the patriarchy as a marginalized gender, expect trans men to speak up about themselves.
(I mean this in a very broad sense. Of course, when trans women are talking about things that are largely unique to them, bringing up trans men may not be the best way to engage with the conversation)
But anyway, the difference between Conservative MRA saying "What about men", and trans men voicing their experiences in conversations they are a part of (but have been forgotten in) is that MRA's purpose is to entirely ignore intersectional feminism. They want to say "Men have it bad too, so women need to stop complaining." They have no interest in a productive discussion that benefits themselves, and the women they are arguing with.
Trans men just want to be heard. We want to add to the conversation. We have a place in the conversation because we are a marginalized gender. We do not want to speak over anyone because our motivation is to not say "But we have it bad too, so stop complaining." Our motivation is to say "We have this same experience because we are a marginalized gender too."
If you can't distinguish between a trans man desperate to be listened to about his own issues for once, and cis men desperate to shut women up, then you need to reflect on your allyship
if you've only seen the term transandrophobia through discourse, this is your invitation to think about it outside of a discourse context (for both people for and against the term)
there are many of us who use the word to talk about real life issues, though I can excuse you not knowing that if you've only seen the discourse and not any real conversations, since queer discourse has a way of flattening these convos, which I really really dislike
I also encourage you to think about transmisogyny and oppression as a whole outside of the discourse context, just as a refresher, since I see those topics being steamrolled as well which is sad
back in the ace discourse words like aphobia and homophobia/lesbophobia also got steamrolled like this. if you do think that trans men/mascs experience a unique oppression, whether or not you like the word, I encourage you to think of us outside of a discourse context. and even if you don't believe we do, I ask you think of transmisogyny and oppression as a whole outside of a discourse context, just to keep yourself from falling into the steamrolled versions
I think we should be able to talk about trans people dying without it being a footnote in online discourse
Gee, I’d like to never have to mention having been AFAB again. If only it weren’t painfully relevant to how laws are applied to me and how the past has shaped me and how transphobes perceive me and
And of course it would be ridiculous to ever believe that transphobia and misogyny could ever intersect in a way specific to their trans identity
"trans men only ever experience transphobia and misogyny" and as we all know those two things never intersect (sarcasm)
if there was ever any doubt lmfao.
(Date of the post is cut off but it's February 20th 2025 at 11:01 AM)
Hey let's try this game!
Me when I'm trying to argue in favour of transphobia and deliberately portray myself as a Nazi
When you're talking to a trans masc on tumblr and they say 'Transwoman'
Well I've got a list of blocked blogs longer than the fucking Iliad and I still got myself in the trenches :p
tumblr discourse after 13 years on this fucking website
Oh! Apparently transandrophobes are now being very mask off with the fact that they are the same community as truscum/transmeds, 2019 exclus, and every other "grrr other queer people" group!
hate people wanting to shut down conversations about transandrophobia say that trans men and mascs "measurably" experience less violence than trans women and fems
one of the core aspects of transandrophobia is erasure. the rates of violence we face cannot be "measurably" different than anything, because the rates of violence we face are deliberately not measured and erased whenever posssible
"i have no doubts about the rich inner world of their own gender identies but it's clear they are just men trying to be predatory" how can you write something like this without realizing how transphobic it is holy mother of fucking god. maybe they feel connected to masculinity and not manhood BECAUSE THEY DO NOT IDENTIFY AS MEN. it is not some secret mask to hide behind so they can abuse you. jesus fucking christ the fearmongering has to stop. the perpetual victimhood has to stop. if you have so few braincells you think a non stealth transmasc is oppressing you then maybe you need to get off tumblr and have a fucking brain transplant
'transandrophobia is white male fragility' mfs when i start talking about the insane situation of trans men in the global south and how they're all useless westerners who don't give a shit about non-american poc.
Discourse side of @blunt-force-therapy. Pronouns: it/its
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