Crawling Into The Fridge Like Stolas

okay, about old married couple bobutters and hollyhock…

i just consider this topic terribly interesting because i like hollyhock and i like their dynamics (going back to that post from my dead account, rest in peace)

i have two scenarios in my head. the first is that hollyhock is raised by his 8 fathers and, as in the original, finds bojack and tells him that she may be his daughter. AND THE TEST CONFIRMS THE KINSHIP. AND SHE WAS BORN IN 1999, WHEN BOBUTTERS WERE ALREADY TOGETHER. do you understand? that would be a real drama... kind of a test of their relationship. before they came to the conclusion that hollyhock was his sister, not his daughter, bojack would vehemently deny the fact of cheating (maybe he'd even start doubting himself due to his insecurities and all) but what pb's reaction would look like… given his fear of loneliness and tendency to forgive... it's interesting to speculate about. i have a lot of thoughts but i want to hear yours first

and the second scenario is just fun. what if they adopted hollyhock. i honestly didn't think through exactly how this would happen because beatrice would hardly be eager to give the child to them. maybe henrietta would contact them directly, knowing that these two were good guys? idk. but watching and exploring their cute family dynamics seems interesting to me :3

anyway what do YOU think? take your time with the answer, i know that it's about 5:00 am for you

woah holy shit ok… the DRAMA of that first idea… woah.. Because we don’t often see any sort of drama between the two and this would be really interesting to explore… Bojack KNOWING he didn’t cheat, and PB hoping his partner would NEVER do that to him.

That scene where Bojack rushes to hollyhocks house with the information about his dad and Henrietta, but he rushes to PB on his KNEES begging for forgiveness after that conflict, and honestly they’re both better off because of it

As for them adopting hollyhock… that’s just adorable, and the way you brought it up happening feels probably the most likely, to me at least.. especially if (and i’m embarrassed saying this) but if Jay exists then i could see the two being like sisters which is a lovely idea

How is PB like when Hollyhock comes into the picture in your AU?

i don't quite understand what au you're talking about. if you mean old married couple, then we discussed it in another post. i think that when everything goes back to normal, he would simply adore her. and he would definitely be terribly happy every time she visited them. he seems to be a girl dad, but at the same time he doesn't want to take on too much responsibility in the form of, you know, his own child, so sister-in-law is an ideal option for him

So, basically, in a world where BJ and PB start a relationship very early, their only salvation is to end the relationship. In my opinion. They would have to be fine alone. And maybe, a good long time later, maybe they could come back.

in fact, we have two versions of this au. kinda sub-aus. it sounds silly yeah but it works (in my opinion). it's alpha!bobutter au and old married couple au.

i've already thought about how i want to see the result of their relationship in alpha!bobutter au. and i came to the conclusion that there is no result as such. tbh, if you think realistically, they just don't have a chance. they are doomed. they are unlikely to break up, at least completely, and even more unlikely to get rid of their demons with therapy and all that. i would imagine their ending as a slow rotting together that ends with the death of both, sooner or later. therefore, i prefer to look at their relationship in this au as a process that has no end, because it's more interesting that way.

but old married couple au! i was just thinking about them yesterday. and damn, it's such a cool concept. freak and i decided that this au is pure fluff, which i just adore, and now it's kinda my favorite au

okay. now how i see it. we take freak's post and just soften everything a little so that it fits the concept of fluff (i hope you don't mind freak. if anything, we can always make sub-sub-aus /j). almost each au is based on an assumption, and this time we assume that the relationship (friendship at first, maybe) with mr peanutbutter helped bojack become, well, more tolerant. softer. not that he fixed him, it's just that his presence in bj's life helped him to be a little more rational and not such a jerk in many moments, which is why he at least did not spoil his relationship with herb (maybe he still got fired, but bojack at least supported him after that and they didn't cut off communication). bojack wasn't so indifferent and rude to sarah lynn. didn't agree to participate in the bojack horseman show. and accordingly, he has a lot less regrets in his life, and in addition, a reliable partner who gives him unconditional love.

i'm not sure if they started dating right away or if they were friends at first, in freak's post these circumstances are almost identical to those in alpha!bobutter au. i like to think that they first became friends, and their romantic relationship began more consciously (however, a casual one-time hookup as a catalyst seems interesting in this case too), although i can't say that they were both 100% ready for it.

bojack's stormy youth is over, and pb is with him. he still turns to alcohol sometimes, and this is a problem, but not nearly as serious as it was in the original. mr peanutbutter still doesn't know how to express his desires normally, suffers from toxic positivity and is rarely sincere, and only with bojack. but they're doing better together. it's not like in alpha couple au where two bad people meet and poison each other's lives, but rather like two people with flaws meet and try to live this life, supporting each other as best they can

i just like this au because then the title of the show would be smth like "BoJack Horseman Doesn't Have Any Problems and Others Do (Well, He Actually Has Some, But It's Okay)". i mean, they definitely have problems in their relationship, and they work with it as best they can. the arcs of the other characters didn't change in general, except for some additions (pc doesn't have to get bojack out of trouble to her detriment every day, todd lives with both of them and so on).

in my opinion, this au is needed in order to look at what the events of the show would look like if everything happened under such circumstances (although almost all the terrible deeds committed by boj didn't take place because i've already explained why, and they need to be replaced with something more light and it's interesting to speculate about too). and ofc FLUFF. and can you imagine what kind of relationship they would have if they had been dating/married since they were +-30 years old??

but i still need to know freak's opinion, of course, since these sub-aus are kinda ours. but in general, i imagine it like this. i wanted to make a post about it, and now the opportunity has appeared. thank you!

i want to thank every mr peanutbutter enjoyer you are all COOL AS HELL i hope you have a great day and great life, there aren't many of you, but i'm with you. don't be afraid to ask to draw him any way you want. we need to expand the amount of content with this magnificent character, he definitely deserves it

i drew it because i was very frustrated

this is what mr peanutbutter sees every day now

i just find the idea of two lab twins really cute and silly. the one dear anon described in that post

Thank you so much for being so kind and giving us your art! Serious. About Crackerjack, ideas about him may change in my mind, but, I think I would like him to have the classic diamond shape on his forehead, a gap between his teeth like his paternal grandmother, black hair like Bojack, but it would be straighter and well-behaved, and the brown skin of his great-grandfather or great-grandmother. He likes more *elegant* clothes? Or even sport style because PB could always take him to exercise he feels more confident. But he also often dresses like his parents. A similar style. As a teenager he could be described as "cool". In adult life he is more of a businessman. And I think he would be a lawyer. He, along with his brothers, certainly entered the world of child actors, because they are the children of two stars (well, one star, since Bojack's career was kind of ruined). Although he liked the fun part of doing a series, or program, or whatever, he really didn't like how people wanted to pry into his life or the dark parts of Showbiz.

thank you!

interesting design! and i like that eventually he will become a lawyer and his work will not be related to the entertainment industry. although the kids might work as actors for a while, as you say (bobutters would be against it but maybe crackerjack was in his "daaad i'm an adult i can do whatever i want" phase and they gave up), but still decided not to get involved directly with it (at least crackerjack did).

i'd be glad to draw his design some day, if you don't mind! and i love formal wear. just a reminder. so it would be cool

thank you for your thoughts again, i really have a lot of fun making art based on the au!

let's take a break *ugly sobbing* from angst and look at them *wiping tears* being happy

smth i thought about while drawing it: rarely when bojack is alone at home and feels kinda sad he comes to mr peanutbutter on the set. and he 100% takes with him some delicious cookies that he baked in advance. pb is overjoyed because of his unexpected visit every time and can't help but cling to him and not let him go for the next half hour (the rest of the crew is very displeased about it)

and you can't convince me that bojack doesn't like pda. i have PROOF:

so so embarrassing...

okay i made a promise... give it up for BOBUTTERS with NAKED torsos