Saving This For Later Because FUCKING KRIPKE Shipped Destiel And Is Probably The One That Started It

Richard was one of the directors for the confession I'm pretty sure and misha was told it was a romantic declaration of love so I definitely think they would see it even if they didn't know about misha saying it was a romantic confession

Rob and Rich are discussing episode 6x17 on the supernatural rewatch podcast and got to Balthazar’s comment about Cas being secretly in love with Dean and they’re all “ah foreshadowing!” “that was ahead of its time for when this aired, cool!”

if only they knew how the fandom was split between “Dean and Cas are canon” and “It’s just a joke guys, there’s nothing there”

it makes me crazy to think that they’re watching this in 2024/25 and it’s just a given that yeah of course Cas was in love with Dean way back in season 6, what else would that comment mean?

By consequences work wise I'm meaning the cw giving jensen a bad rep for supporting destiel since the cw are the ones that short down most of the writers' attempts to make destiel explicit, like an old boss telling someone who wants to hire you that you are untrustworthy and not a team player, atleast that's what I assume is what makes him tiptoe around destiel all the time

But you are correct that most people don't care about destiel, and it probably wouldn't affect him that much if he did admit that it's reciprocated, or atleast wouldn't affect him in the long run

No, an actor does not owe anyone to say anything when it comes to a character they play but also cmon man, it has been 15 fucking years, you can literally put stop to this once and for all.

This is why I don't get why some people think destiel shippers hate Sam, like yes we ignore him alot but we don't hate him, he's the only person that has to deal with Dean and cas' pining and longing 24/7, he's the only character that has seen most of what the fans see and we relate to him having to watch those two men be so inlove but be too stupid to actually get together

Gotta respect Supernatural for how it always committed to making Sam be like "Cas is fine Dean, really, please don't kill yourself I'mbegging" every time Cas went MIA

Dean's love for Castiel is literally something you can chart the growth of with data points. Just using Dean's reactions after each time Castiel dies.

Season 4: oh wow he died doing the hottest thing ever ('making it up as we go.') Nice.

Season 5: (no time to react before he's back) Are you literal god??

Season 7(first time) denial, then cursing cas out for his choices (ie, choosing crowley instead of dean... Big Feelings on display)

Season 7 (about 3 seconds after the first time in season 7): I'm going to be upset about this the rest of the year, have full on nightmare ptsd from it, and project it onto every relationship and interaction in my life from now on.

Season 8: I will be so traumatized by this that the memories won't even form properly and I won't even be able to SPEAK ABOUT IT AT ALL. Period.

Season 9: only about 6 seconds before he's back, but still a significant amount of wailing his name.

Season 12: depression, rage, eventual suicide

Season 15: Sobbing hysterically. Not even caring that Sam is calling because everyone is dead. Not giving a fuck about any other actual thing in the rest of the world no matter the stakes. Followed by:

'Castiel wants me to live, and I suppose I've internalized the message that I am not a terrible, unworthy person, so I will live and not kill myself so that his sacrifice means something. J/k thank god a fucking rebar. Don't call an ambulance. Don't bring me back. Please let me die.'

We need a chart. I need a chart.

The fucking privilege they don't even know they have to see that line and be like "oh it's foreshadowing" like the fans haven't been fighting for literal years almost DECADES about all the little things and subtext throughout the show proving that destiel was there but people just refused to see it

like I love that they're seeing the destiel moments and agreeing that destiel was there but like destiel has been the purpose of arguments throughout the Fandom for years even after the confession and they're just coming in and watching it now and being like "oh that was foreshadowing, pretty cool for the time" like guys that line has probably sparked more arguments then you'll ever know yet you're just brushing it off as foreshadowing

Rob and Rich are discussing episode 6x17 on the supernatural rewatch podcast and got to Balthazar’s comment about Cas being secretly in love with Dean and they’re all “ah foreshadowing!” “that was ahead of its time for when this aired, cool!”

if only they knew how the fandom was split between “Dean and Cas are canon” and “It’s just a joke guys, there’s nothing there”

it makes me crazy to think that they’re watching this in 2024/25 and it’s just a given that yeah of course Cas was in love with Dean way back in season 6, what else would that comment mean?

Literally this, people don't see destiel in the show because the characters aren't "gay enough" in their minds for them to get together even though there's a shit ton of evidence in the goddamn show that shows that Dean and Cas are into eachother and behave and are treated as a romantic couple, but since they can be seen as macho heterosexuals those people just ignore the evidence that's in the shows Canon

Not to be dramatic, but I believe that part of the reason why destiel has persisted far beyond the end of the show, is because every destiel shipper is partaking in an act of rebellion against the homophobic powers of the world.

Over an entire 15 years, an entire tv network fought against the allegations of gay. Directors fought against the gay. Actors fought against the gay. It still wasn't enough. Destiel went canon. However we won the battle but not the war. The fact that even 5 years after, actors and fans still continue to deny the existence of gay is part of the reason why destiel will not cease.

Destiel was never just about two men kissing. It was never about the denial of male friendships. Destiel embodies the fight for queer representation on screen and in our society. Destiel is the illumination of actual queer existence that isn't just a crude caricature of what people expect queer people to be like.

To validate destiel is to say that LGBTQIA+ people could be anyone at anytime. Queer existence is a red-blooded american man. Queer existence is a genderless angel. Queer love exists outside the boundary formed by heterosexual people.

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This show is like an anomaly, most of its fans or atleast the hellers absolutely love and hate this show at the same time, it is simultaneously the worst show and the best show and one of the most homophobic and gayest shows of all time, it was a series of coincidences and mistakes and repairs that made supernatural how it is and I can't think of any actual fan who would genuinely want to change it except for the very end of course

I love how supernatural accidentally made castiel trans and then canonically made him in love with dean. I also love how homophobic this gay show is. Like somehow these two things coexist and it’s crazy.

Can't believe I didn't see anyone else do this but here you are

Dean IS bisexual and I'm not even sure if this is all the examples

because the thing is bisexual

You turned off comments so I'm saying this in a reblog, how dare you bring back my ghost rider trauma from stiles being forgotten, that shit hurt so bad when I watched it and now you've gone and make me think about that trauma but for buck instead, you are a monster (this is a really good idea and could be really angsty and end up being really sweet for buck knowing that not even supernatural magic can make Eddie leave/forget him

I was thinking about fears etc and like, Buck obviously has abandonment issues. Is he necessarily afraid of that? Idk. It's more like he is 'used to', so maybe 50/50. BUT I can imagine him being afraid of being forgotten.

So. Immediately my mind jumped to Teen Wolf season 6. (For those who haven't watched, creatures called 'ghost riders' take people, who then end up being erased from reality, meaning no one remembers them)

What if 9-1-1 were in a similar universe and the Ghost Riders took Buck? But unlike in Teen Wolf, he doesn't get taken to some place. He just roams around with nobody knowing him.

(But Eddie feels that something is off and slowly remembers him)