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I personally think that the Hannibal fandom gets a lot of things wrong about Hannibal and Will and their relationship (omega verse often showing this), as proven by a conversation I had with some friends.
Examples of non-Murder Husband behavior:
If Hannibal was an omega, he would not be a tiny, whiny brat.- Me
Will Graham is NOT a submissive omega. He CAN be an omega, but he is not a pathetic baby who needs cuddles and a baby in his womb.- Me
(About murdering people) "N-no Hanni please d-don't hurt them pleas-e š„ŗš„ŗš„ŗš„ŗš„ŗ"- Yeah, no. Friend 1 has it right. That ain't happening.
In reality, he'd be smiling in the corner like a maniac.- Friend 2, also correct.
He'd be participating.- Friend 1, again correct.
Like yes Will has moments where he's broken down and whimpering and shit BUT HE HAS OTHER CHARACTER TRAITS FOR GOD'S SAKE.- Friend 3, āļø
"Hannibal, I need protection and a dozen babies. Stick your dick in me now. š„ŗš„ŗš„ŗš„ŗš„ŗ"- Me, ranting about omega verse. Will is not like this, people. If anything, this is Hannibal behavior.
These men are in the top of the FBI watch list they don't need protection they aren't š„ŗš„ŗš„ŗš„ŗš„ŗš„ŗ.- Friend 1, 100% correct!
Will and Hannibal are NOT LIKE THIS. Will is not going to be pathetic and submissive to Hannibal, omega or not, and if he is an omega, he isn't going to be begging to be protected and be bred constantly. If Hannibal is omega, he is NOT going to be physically smaller than he actually is and cling to Will in a non-Hannibal way (whining, crying, screaming if Will so much as gets out of the car or goes in another room). They can be protective of each other, but they are NOT going to be begging the other to protect them. Will is not going to cry and whimper about Hannibal killing people. He's either going to do it with him or wait at home and reap the rewards, but he's not going to make Hannibal stop.
They are not š„ŗ. They are lethal. They are deadly. They are MURDER HUSBANDS. They are not pathetic babies who are going to submit to other on a whim, and by submission, I mean OUTSIDE the bedroom. This also includes Will getting rid of his dogs/never adopting any again because Hannibal 'doesn't like them'. Will has other, and frankly better, character traits than being a whimpering, broken down, and wet-cat looking. Hannibal isn't going to put Will under his protection because he loves the darkness and the monster inside Will, and he wants to see it. They murder for each other. They would not need to protect each other. They are not precious little š„ŗ babies, even if you stick them in an omega verse setting.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk on the subject.
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... not gonna lie, I highkey hope other anon is right about Ranboo being half guardian cause that would just be hilarious in terms of parents. Like, either we have an Enderman finding a guardian on land (since they can live out of water) and carrying it around like, This is my spouse :) they are so square and I love them, OR waterbound guardian and we have one of those fairytales where fire and water fall in love but can't touch without hurting each other. Hilarious either way
I FIND THE ENDERMEN CARRYING THE GUARDIAN REALLYF UCKING CUTE ACTUALLY WELFKNWEĆEWKLNF23KFN
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ok well i personally think bive is hefty and tall and split is chubby and short and bive is flatchested and split is super curvy umm but if the haters wanna be like that then i guess i cant do anything
I love the pathetic man
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āI donāt think that is what God wants. And I donāt think you want it either.ā
This line of Aziraphaleās in the Job minisode keeps sticking out to me. Because this is the heart of the problem, right? This is how Aziraphale can see Crowley so completely and also not at all.
Because yes they suck at open communication and yes itās because they had to hide their relationship for thousands of years and have so so so much trauma and fear to work through. But ALSO they actually do have a profound difference in how they see the world that keeps coming between them, and itās not just theoretical but deeply personal to both of them.
Because Aziraphale still wants to believe that God is good. He canāt let go of that because his whole identity is wrapped up in being an angel of the Lord, and if Godās not good then what has he been doing for his entire existence?
And so when bad things are happening he falls back on This cannot be what God wants. The whole of season one, he refuses to believe that God could really want the world to endāeven though we now know he knew this was a possibility before the world even started. He keeps going up the chain of command, trying to find someone to intervene. āThatās why Iām going to have a word with the Almighty and then the Almighty will fix it.ā As if God doesnāt have all the information or hasnāt been paying attention.
And really, the events of season one reinforce this worldview for him. Because if the Archangel Fucking Gabriel isnāt sure what God wants, then maybe God did want them to stop Armageddon. Maybe it was Aziraphale and Crowley who were doing Godās work after all.
Heās gotten as far as realizing that Heavenās orders are not the same thing as Godās will, but he still hasnāt detached the concepts of Good and Right from God in his worldview.
Crowley is a good person who does the right thing so he must still be an angel deep down. āI know the angel you were.ā The only way Aziraphale can conceptualize Crowley saving Jobās children is, āCome on, youāre a little bit on our [Godās] side.ā So Crowleyās fall was a mistake; Crowley belongs in Heaven, where he was so happy before the Fall. Why wouldnāt he want to be an angel again? And yeah maybe Heaven sucks now but God is still good, so thereās hope that the system can be reformed with a change of leadership, and Heaven can be made to actually do good, the way God always intended.
But thatās not how Crowley sees the world at all. He is operating with an entirely different understanding of reality. Because he figured out a long time ago (at least by the time of the Job job, but probably long before that) that you canāt base your sense of morality on what you think God wants. Not just because you donāt know for sure, but because sometimes Godās plans are fucking awful. God in Good Omens is not kind to Her creations. She doesnāt tolerate questions or doubts or disobedience. Sheās capricious, turning on the creatures She made and killing a bunch of them when Sheās in a bad mood. She punishes indiscriminately and disproportionately. She wagers human lives like gambling chips. The kids were supposed to be dead no matter who won the bet.
I think itās interesting that Crowley is the one who introduces the idea in season one of āWhat if the Almighty planned it like this all along? From the very beginning.ā Thatās probably a comforting thought to Aziraphale, soothing his anxieties about going against Heaven right when he is feeling acute distress at the idea of no longer having a side. (And, in that particular moment, no longer even having a bookshop.)
But itās not a comforting thought to Crowley. Have you seen what happens when God has a plan for you? It fucking sucks. Woe betide you if youāre the Barbie God decides to play with today. (At bare minimum, youāre coming back with some burn marks and a weird haircut.)
Iāve brought up the line āThere are no right people. Thereās just God, moving in mysterious ways and not talking to any of usā before, and I tend to focus on the āthere are no right peopleā part. But also, thereās just God.
Aziraphale tends to draw a distinction between Godās will and Heavenās orders when it suits him, and collapse that distinction when it doesnāt. Crowley almost never differentiates between God and Heaven. Thereās just God, and Sheās not going to explain why this is happening or listen to pleas for mercy (although Crowley still tries). You canāt trust Heaven or Hell, and you canāt count on God to show up and make everything all right. Sometimes God is in fact the reason that things are not all right. Youāre on your own.
(And. Look. Crowley is right on this one. There are certainly aspects of their relationship where theyāre both equally responsible for things being a shitshow, but the text is pretty unambiguous about Crowley, a demon, having the most accurate read on the nature of God in the world of Good Omens out of any of the metaphysical characters.)
Crowley rebuilt his entire sense of self, alone, after the Fall. He created himself anew and developed his own moral compass and sense of identity independent of both Heaven and Hell. āThe angel you knew is not me.ā When Crowley does the right thing, thatās not his angel-ness shining through; thatās just Crowley.
And from a like, trauma recovery point of view, itās actually very healthy for him to have the realization that sometimes Godās just kind of a dick. He didnāt do anything to deserve getting kicked out of Heaven. None of them did. Just God messing them about because She didnāt like being questioned, or She wanted to see what would happen, or She needed two sides for Reasons and didnāt much care who was on one or the other, or Sheās playing some fucked up little game for Her own amusement. (And if there was some Great Plan that required Crowley to fallā¦well, that is also fucked up. Because it doesnāt matter if there was a reason. It still hurt.)
And while Crowley in general is extremely patient with Aziraphale and his slow, halting journey away from Heavenā¦itās gotta sting, every time Aziraphale doesnāt want to believe that God could be cruel, when Crowley is standing right fucking there. Itās gotta hurt when Aziraphale refuses to see something that Crowley knows to be true through his own lived experience. Because it should be enough. What happened to him should be enough to make someone who loves him walk away from Heaven and never look back. And it isnāt.
But of course Crowley is one hundred percent not going to talk about this, if he is even fully self-aware about having these thoughts, because itās far too painful and vulnerable. (He talks to plants, goats, God, and no one in a bar at the end of the world, but never to Aziraphale.) And so he says āTell me you said noā and āI think I understand a lot better than you doā because he canāt say Choose me. Just this once, choose me and he canāt say Believe me.
And Aziraphale is not going to think about all this and work it out for himself, because he has a massive lump of denial centered around exactly this thing, that sometimes God hurts people who didnāt do anything to deserve it. Iām sure heās thought about the Fall in abstract terms, enough to be afraid of it, but not in terms of this is a thing that happened to a person I love. And he has certainly not allowed himself to draw any conclusions about the nature of God from it, because that is far too scary a prospect.
And so theyāre stuck. Until they can figure out how to remove this massive landmine from the center of their relationship, they are going to keep having the same fight over and over again, and theyāre going to keep hurting each other without fully understanding why.