HOW DARE YOU SAY SOMETHING SO TRUE

HOW DARE YOU SAY SOMETHING SO TRUE

When You Get The Science Autism And The Animated Media Autism And Now Your Hyperfixation Is Rick And

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1 year ago

THAT'S SO COOL!! I WOULD HAVE NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT!

When talking about the distinction between Simon Petrikov and the Ice King,  it’s important to remember that originally, the Crown wasn’t trying to turn Simon into Ice King -

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

It was trying to turn him into this guy.

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

At the time, the Ice Crown - or rather the Wishing Crown - was programmed with Gunther’s wish to become Evergreen. So everything related to making the current wearer like Evergreen is a very direct result of the Crown’s Magic. The physical changes -

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

And the obsession with the name ‘Gunther’ -

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

And maybe some of the irritability and anger issues -

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

That is something the Crown is very directly forcing unto its current wielder. 

But everything else?

Ice King, personality-wise, was not much like Evergreen at all, or even like Gunther's view of him. And Ice Finn of the Farmworld Universe was also pretty different from the both of them.

At the time, I remember people assumed Ice Finn’s behavior is more indicative of what the Crown is actually trying to do with its wielders. That Ice King is so different because of Simon’s subconscious resistance against the Crown - while Finn’s much younger and dumber brain is a lot susceptible to the Curse’s influence to become some sort of mad world-conquering emperor of ice and snow. 

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember
When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

But, with the context of the Crown’s actual backstory. That doesn’t seem very likely anymore. I think what’s actually happening there is that the Crown is just trying to make its wielder an Ice Wizard on par with Evergreen (who was the Actual Goddam Ice Elemental) and that means pumping the wielder’s brain so full of Magic, Madness and Sadness to a level that is bound to overwhelm anyone.

And Simon’s and Farmworld Finn’s very different behaviors after putting on the crown is indicative, more than anything, of how their psyche reacts to Madness and Sadness in general. You know, Finn has a very proactive and kinda aggressive personality - and you add Crown-induced-Madness-and-Sadness and a compulsion to use Ice Magic as much as possible and you get all of…. this 

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

Meanwhile, for Simon, the compulsions of the Crown originally filtered exclusively via the language of protection 

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

As his madness always manifested as romantic obsession 

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

And using goofy humor to try and deny the pain he’s going through 

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

Because that’s how Simon’s mind specifically reacts to being flooded with so much Madness and Sadness.

That’s why there’s so many parallels between Ice King and the sort of mistakes and screwed-up stuff Simon does right now! He’s even kidnapping people again!

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

Because the Madness and Sadness of Ice King might’ve been induced by the Crown, but now Simon has plenty of personal home-grown Madness and Sadness inside him - and it’s no surprise that Curse-Induced or not, his mind reacts to it in a sorta-similar way. (Although obviously not as intensely, again, there was a LOT of MMS in the Ice Crown).

Now as for Ice Thing, and the fact that he seems to be actually rather well-adjusted under effects of his version of the Wishing Crown. I mean... not by the time of the 1000+ Era, but that’s literally eons in the future and also maybe more Gibbon’s fault. Even if the Crown will eventually take some sort of toll on him, for now he seems to be doing pretty well considering his wish. I mean, there's still some sort of Loss of Identity stuff going on

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

But everything we've seen of Ice Thing (in the present day, at least) shows him as a friendly and cheerful individual that gets along well with others. A far cry from how maladjusted every single wielder of the Ice Crown acted.

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember
When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember
When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

At the very least, if there's any notable amount of Sadness in him, we really haven't seen it yet.

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

There might be several factors here:

First things first, I should acknowledge the possibility that it’s just that Orgalorg’s eldritch brain is better at intaking all that MMS juice. That could play a part, but I think it’s probably more important, at least thematically, to look at the distinction between ‘I wish to be Evergreen’ and ‘I wish to be Ice King’. 

First in the sense that while Ice King was occasionally mean to Gunter at times - he was generally much kinder than Evergreen ever was for ‘his’ Gunther. So, like, pretty much the one Personality Flaw of Ice King that you can directly link to the Ice Crown’s attempt to mimic Evergreen is the occasional anger issues.

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

And how they relate to Gunther’s view of Evergreen, so grumpy and controlling and constantly saying ‘NO!’

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

(Both Finn and Simon’s demonstrable not-crown-induced trauma responses can make them pretty short-tempered as well. So I’m not going to say this is purely the effects of the Crown. It still probably plays some sort of factor at why the wielder of the Ice Crown is Like That).

And that is not a factor in how Gunter views Ice King. For him, Ice King was a doting and loving father figure - so if the Crown was ever trying to implement any sort of specific negative personality traits, this is absolutely no longer a factor. Because the original Ice Crown was a reflection of Evergreen’s abuse, and now Ice Thing is a reflection of Ice King’s fatherly love.

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

Which is, itself, probably an echo or remnant of Simon’s own strong parental instincts. 

When Talking About The Distinction Between Simon Petrikov And The Ice King,  It’s Important To Remember

Secondly, while the Crown was trying to make the Ice King just as powerful as Evergreen…. Ice King was obviously not as powerful as Evergreen. Because he was already a second-rate copy of the Ice Elemental’s power, and because Ice King was often just too doofy to use his powers correctly and probably because some remnant of Simon’s original sensible self is subconsciously holding his powers back.

Either way, being ‘like Ice King’ as Gunter sees him requires less Magic than being ‘like Evergreen’ as Gunther saw him - and therefore less Madness and Sadness. Leading to the wearer or, um, the eater being a lot more well-adjusted from the get-go.

And I think that the implication that Ice Thing has fused with the Crown, so there's never going to be another poor sap who puts on the Crown and gets Ice King'd. But if there is one somehow... at least the process is going to be less mentally detrimental that time around?

Maybe one day Simon could look back and appreciate how much he (or Ice King, or both of them, or however you want to look at the situation) is responsible for basically neutralizing the Crown that ruined his life in the first place.

9 months ago
A Old Conversation….
A Old Conversation….
A Old Conversation….

A old conversation….

1 year ago

bro was flabbergasted 😭😭

This scene is the gayest shit ive ever seen bro topher sounds MISERABLE

1 year ago

Finally finished the first designs for my version of Jane the Killer! Currently working on her story, if you are interested at all, please let me know!

Finally Finished The First Designs For My Version Of Jane The Killer! Currently Working On Her Story,
Finally Finished The First Designs For My Version Of Jane The Killer! Currently Working On Her Story,

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1 year ago

DID THEY JUST GIVE GERASKIER THE GOAT TREATMENT?? MAKE JASKIER OF ALL PEOPLE SAY THAT IT’S JUST “PLATONIC”???? UM?? SIR?? HELLO???

Only to IMMEDIATELY give Jaskier an ACTUAL male love interest?? THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE CANON?? THEY ARE CALLING IT A CRUSH!!


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10 months ago

SO REAL!! LMAOOOOO!!!

think the great thing about house md is that the characters really are just like that, not even exaggerated. house does not shut up about sleeping with wilson even though he claims they’re just bros, foreman complains about medical malpractice while stealing bone marrow and switching thirteens’s placebo, cameron marries a dying man and then sleeps with chase after she’s been on meth. then they sleep together again because they’re bored of watching their patients sleep patterns. chase is a blonde australian catholic, he’s one of the best surgeons in the hospital, he also kills a dictator. wilson is just some guy who’s been arrested before. he loves monster trucks, he’s had three failed marriages, he’ll give out his organs and blood at any given moment. something so wrong with them all but i love them very much.

2 years ago

KEPT ALL HIS LIMBS I CAJNT-

All Posters + Versions Without Text, If Anyone Needed Them:)
All Posters + Versions Without Text, If Anyone Needed Them:)
All Posters + Versions Without Text, If Anyone Needed Them:)
All Posters + Versions Without Text, If Anyone Needed Them:)
All Posters + Versions Without Text, If Anyone Needed Them:)
All Posters + Versions Without Text, If Anyone Needed Them:)
All Posters + Versions Without Text, If Anyone Needed Them:)
All Posters + Versions Without Text, If Anyone Needed Them:)
All Posters + Versions Without Text, If Anyone Needed Them:)
All Posters + Versions Without Text, If Anyone Needed Them:)

All posters + versions without text, if anyone needed them:)

Funny story - the poster with baby Donnie was originally intended for the second round against MNMC. But I was sick that day, so when the voting took place I was busy lying dead on my bed and waiting for the inevitable defeat

2 years ago

Mark really picks favorites, huh?

Mark Really Picks Favorites, Huh?

P.S. Mark, why did you do that to my boy Eric? Srsly, why did you want to hurt my poor anxious boy? I mean, thank you for letting him punch his dad. But the rest of it, god DAYUM-

1 year ago

First episode!

https://youtu.be/GQxhx5i2Nr4?si=4r1L31tU4AoPPlEn

In honor of Creepypasta day I've released the first episode of my new Slenderverse ARG (yes I know they are two very different things), it's called "ShootTheMessenger" on YouTube. The series will follow a victim of the Slenderman who now works for him, showing the often seen tropes of stalking, planting personal items, etc. And as the series goes on, I plan to turn the story into its own thing! I hope whoever reads this has an amazing day, and remember to check it out when you have the chance!

1 year ago

making sure everyone sees this!

Facebook Deleted This Almost Immediately. It's Almost Like The Ultrawealthy Don't Want Us Knowing Or

Facebook deleted this almost immediately. It's almost like the ultrawealthy don't want us knowing or talking about what's at stake.

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