Thinking back to about three weeks ago and I was on the verge of deleting this whole blog. It felt stupid, it felt wrong and I guess I figured I was just done talking about the fun things. I wrote a whiny post, but deleted that before it even went up. I suppose I’m glad I didn’t now. For one, it has become a bit of a record of the fun we’ve had, then it touched on something that has taken some working through and now, thankfully, I have several more things that I want to write.
I really want to tell the more real side of what happened with J, as I said my last post was a blend of my overactive imagination and what really happened. I am also dying to get down a little bit about something they (Louise and J) have talked about, something I still don’t really believe she will do. I am fast learning not to underestimate a couple of things though - her capacity to surprise me and her out of this world, exploding sex drive.
None of that relates to her earlier affair by the way, that’s another topic. There is probably just one more thing, on that topic, that I’ll touch on sometime.
But first, and what I’ll get on with here, is something we talked about last night. She had actually started the conversation about a week ago, when she said something like if I was truthful I would admit that I think the sluttier she is the better. Something like that. We weren’t exactly in looking ahead mode at that time, it was more of a “told you so” kind of thing to say. Last night was different.
She told me about the thing her and J had been discussing again, I asked her if she was seriously considering it. She didn’t exactly answer me, as is her way. Instead she used it to turn around the conversation, so that she could ask me some questions. We had already booked our little May getaway and we had already gone past the point where we had decided neither of us wanted things to stop. She started to ask me how far was too far, under the guise of “understanding my limits,” she said. I said there was some sick stuff that was definitely way past my interest limit, I made her laugh and then nearly made her gag with a couple of them, that part was fun.
I did say that I like to think I would try my hardest, my very hardest, to do anything she really wanted to do. After all, she has been living out my wildest fantasies, I feel a bit of payback would be warranted. I guess she was really trying to understand a few things though, she did want to explore limits.
“Ok, would you suck Tom’s dick if I asked you to?”
I said I’d prefer not to and, besides, I know full well he wouldn’t have me within a foot of it. Maybe even further.
“Right, what about Grant’s? Or someone else’s?”
If I had to strap on a lie detector and state my choice, then I would choose to suck a dick before I let one anywhere near my arse. So that’s what I told her.
“That’s a yes then,” she said.
“Ok, if your life depended on it then yes, it’d be a yes. But I’d still rather you put a drawing pin in my nipple.”
I figured she’d laugh at that, but she just looked more thoughtful. It was almost scary.
“What about a strap on, me doing you with one that is?”
I sighed, deliberately and loudly. “Sure, as long as it was a small one.”
“Ok then,” she said, exaggerating the look of taking mental notes on that one. I am confident she won’t do it by the way. I’ll keep telling myself that too.
She got a bit serious for a few minutes then. She asked me about another woman, if I wanted to be with one. For the umpteenth time I said no.
“Not even for a bit of revenge?” she asked. “I would hate it but I will let you if you want to.”
It’s not what I want. I reiterated my usual stance, I don’t want that. I did add, as I have done from time to time, unless it was a threesome with you and another woman and you wanted it.
“Not happening.”
I already knew that.
She went a bit quiet for a while, obviously thinking of the hurt stuff. I figured patience and quiet was my best option at that stage.
“I’m sorry babe,” she said after a short while. “I had more.”
She got my best impression of a sexy, reassuring smile in return.
She asked me if i remembered the afternoon in the pool, the day with Tom, Grant and I. I assured that yes, I totally and absolutely remember it.
“Does three guys count as a gang bang?”
My phone was handy, I actually searched for “how many giys needed for a gamg bang.” Thankfully, google figured out what I meant. I was able to inform her that Quora, Reddit and even Wikipedia seemed to agree that three or more guys, with one woman, would indeed be deemed a gang bang.
“Ha,” she said, “so I’ve had a gang bang.”
“And you’ve been in one too,” she added a few seconds later.
She was thinking about something, I was very fucking intrigued. I waited.
“Different question then… umm (she was hesitant)… how many guys would you think are too many… you know, to gang bang me?”
“Twenty five,” I said, without the slightest bit of hesitation. You should have seen how wide her eyes went.
“Really… twenty fucking five. Twenty fucking five would be too many.”
“Yeah, I think so babe, well and truly.”
The penny dropped.
“Righto, smarty pants. How many is one too many then?”
I couldn’t think of any trick ways to answer the question when it was put that way. So I told her my truth, I said I don’t really know. I said more than three is clearly fine, “hot as fuck” I added.
“Any number where they stand around, go for a beer or a sleep, come back for seconds feels like too many.”
I actually didn’t want to say, I really wanted to hear where she was going with this, what her limits would look like. I desperately didn’t want to ruin the chances of hearing her real number by saying something lower. I stalled, I ummed and I avoided answering.
“How about ten then, is that too many?”
The look on her face suggested she was hoping I’d say it was, at least that was how I read it.
“Fuck babe, it does feel like a lot to me, when I think about it. If you really wanted to go that far we could talk about it I guess.” It does actually feel a bit too far out there but I didn’t want to slam the door shut.
“Eight?”
“Eight, ten, what’s the difference?” I asked.
“Good,” she said. Clearly I had said something right there. Not all that intentionally I might add.
Haha, she hasn’t read these posts for a long time by the way. I just send her the really hot memes and screen shots of other sexy stuff.
“What are you thinking?” I asked, I figured I’d treaded water enough by then.
“Yeah, something like that too. Four or maybe even five might be fun.”
“Six?” I asked. I suddenly wanted to know if there was actually a hard limit on this thing. I believed I had also figured out where this was coming from. Finally, it should have been obvious actually, it was from her conversations with J.
“Possibly… if they were all sexy… and they’d have to be gentle.”
She meant so she wouldn’t get too sore, at first I wasn’t certain that was it, so I checked. Sorry, guy thing, just making sure I understood.
This is getting long now, but it has been fun to write. She didn’t ask me any more questions, we kinda lost track of that part of our conversation. We did, however, get back onto the being slutty part of the conversation, once she established that a gang bang with, say, three or four guys (she toned it down a little), unfortunately none of whom would be me, would not be considered too slutty by me.
To wrap this up, it all led to her telling me that she liked my little lists. First she said she is absolutely going to do everything left on that list, I haven’t said anything but I am dying to know if she even remembers that list includes an FFM threesome. Surely she has forgotten.
Anyway, she said she will do the rest of the list and will add things to get it back to a total of ten. Wow. She actually has six to go, but I feel like I want to say a couple more have been done, just to see what she would add to the list herself. I asked her how she felt about me doing a new list as well, she could tell I was thinking of almost evil things for her to do. She is very fearful of being arrested you know!
So, now I wait. If I know my Louise, this list will take a long time to write. I actually shouldn’t even get my hopes up, it may not ever even happen. Fingers crossed.
When we started talking about the whole hotwife fantasy, one of our early “rules” was that she would send me photos if there was ever a time that I wasn’t there. The reality has been nothing like that, the guys she has been with aren’t really into it and, more importantly, who wants to interrupt the excitement and flow of what is happening to get a photo! She did send me one recently though, her new friend J suggested it and took one showing a bit more than this pic. I’ve gotta say it was a nice surprise, especially her little message that indicated they were getting ready for round two.
I saw this and copied all the questions to send to my wife, asking her if she would answer as many as she felt like. She must have been awake for a while last night and here are some answers she sent back to me (my added comments are in brackets). As always, I learnt something new, or am going to learn something new perhaps (I don’t have any recollection about a policeman’s Harley).
5. You already know the answer to this one. (She gave a guy from her high school a very quick blowjob - he came nearly instantly - when she was 16. She says she got off to a bit of a slow start by the way, compared to her best friend at least).
6. As above. (She first had sex with her first serious boyfriend on her 17th birthday, she was shit scared she would get pregnant!).
7. Having my back massaged.
8. Smelly guys, bad body odour.
9. Rub my back, and my ass.
10. I guess it was the time I sat on the policeman’s Harley.
11. You know this. My back, my butt, my feet.
12. I told you at the beach (I will write about it).
13. I didn’t know it until I tried it but yes, I do like having two hard dicks, you were right all along. Our foursome was fun too, maybe I should try again and tell you all about it?
14. I like it when you send me the dick of the day pics (something I do when I’m away with work and will do more of after our talks). I don’t mind it when guys send them to me either. I don’t want to send nudes of myself though, you know why (she is terrified of them getting out and/or being recognised).
16. Swallow but I do like the look on your face when you’re watching and I let some cum run out of my mouth.
17. No preference. Foreskins are fun to play with though.
18. With you, a bit of both. With Tom, sensual. With Grant definitely rough.
22. I love teasing you if that counts.
23. Until Grant, I would have said I don’t want anything bigger than you babe. Now, I can’t imagine liking bigger than him.
26. Girls - boobs, closely followed by nice butts. Guys - always arms.
27. I still owe you this one don’t I? (Louise had sex on a beach, during the day, with her first real boyfriend. She had sex in a car, in a very high risk place, with her ex before me).
32. Apart from having sex with other guys and telling my husband all about it?
34. See question 12.
35. See question 12.
36. Huh? (She needs some more education, LOL).
38. Maybe, see question 12.
39. You know I do, especially on my neck and my nipples.
43. Three. I will leave the next 5 questions to your imagination except to say I do. (Sigh, more tease).
49. Yes.
50. Giving.
51. Sucking someone’s dick at the same time.
52. I try my best don’t I?
62. Yes.
63. Love (naughty girl, she does too).
64. You tell me (so good that I still wonder if she didn’t practice a lot before she met me).
65. Sometimes.
66. (She didn’t answer but she is always fully shaved).
67. I like you trimmed. I like it when Tom is fully waxed.
68. You still hold the record babe (13).
78. I believe I do (more teasing).
Feel free to ask I'll answer any
1. First kiss?
2. First time masturbating?
3. First sex toy?
4. First kink tried?
5. First time doing oral?
6. First time having sex?
-Turn Ons
7. Biggest turn on?
8. Biggest turn off?
9. Quickest way to get horny?
10. Weirdest thing that ever turned you on?
11. Top 3 places to be touched?
12. Ultimate fantasy?
13. Do you like the idea of a three or moresome?
14. Do you send nudes? Do you like receiving them?
-Preferences
15. Sex or masturbation?
16. Spit or swallow?
17. Cut or uncut dicks?
18. Rough or sensual sex?
19. Oldest person you’d sleep with?
20. Loud or quiet partners?
21. How much foreplay do you like?
22. How much teasing do you like?
23. What is too big for you to take?
24. Do you do hookups or only sleep with a partner?
25. How much kissing do you like during sex?
26. What’s the most attractive part of the body?
-Location
27. Would you have sex in public?
28. Last place you had sex?
29. Where would you most like to have sex?
30. Do you like spontaneous sex, or do you need to be in the mood?
31. Could you go through with a hookup at a strangers house?
-Kinks
32. What’s your biggest kink?
33. Are you okay with name calling in bed?
34. Would you do any BDSM?
35. Do you prefer to tie somebody up or be tied up?
36. Do you like orgasm denial/forced orgasm?
37. Do you like overstimulation?
38. Do you like having pain involved?
39. Do you like biting/being bitten?
40. Have you ever been made to/made somebody beg for it?
41. Do you have any strange or extreme kinks?
42. Have any roleplaying preferences?
-Masturbation
43. Do you own sex toys? How many?
44. What do you masturbate to?
45. How often do you masturbate?
46. How often do you use sex toys to masturbate?
47. Do you masturbate with penetration?
48. Do you go for multiple rounds or settle at one or no orgasms?
-Oral
49. Do you enjoy giving oral?
50. Do you prefer giving or receiving oral?
51. What makes you orgasm the fastest when receiving oral?
53. Can you deepthroat?
54. Do you like playing with your clit? If so how do you prefer to do it?
55. What’s your breast size?
56. How often do you go braless?
57. Do you finger yourself?
58. How familiar are you with your g-spot?
59. Do you squirt?
-Sex
60. How often do you do unprotected sex?
61. How loud are you in bed?
62. Do you enjoy having nipples played with?
63. Do you like/dislike cum?
64. How good are you at dirty talk?
65. Do you get sleepy after an orgasm?
66. Do you trim, shave or leave pubic hair untouched?
67. How do you prefer partners pubic hair?
68. How many orgasms can you have in a day?
69. How many other people know your bra size?
70. What do you wear to bed?
71. Any funny sex stories?
72. What food if any would you use during sex?
73. Would you give somebody a sex toy as a gift?
74. What’s the weirdest porn you’ve ever seen?
75. Do you often get horny in public?
76. Ever used something that isn’t made for sex in the bedroom?
77. Have you ever walked in on somebody or been walked in on?
78. Do you have any friends you’d sleep with?
Vocal Tom.
Who knew!? I always thought he was too quiet and shy to be like I have just learnt he really is.
I feel we’re in a really interesting phase right now, partly because of the new developments with Tom but also from a perspective of learning even more about each other. We, to be truthful, I think Louise is learning more about me and I’m enjoying exploring her reactions to things, as they come out or as they evolve.
To give it some more context, just a couple of weeks ago we were talking about my fantasies, I was trying to scale them - one to ten. I told her that watching her suck someone else’s dick is huge for me, it is a huge turn on now and it have been a huge fantasy. Somehow, she actually didn’t know that, I guess I never made it clear enough. Interestingly, she said if she had known things might have started a fair bit earlier for us. She had a lot to overcome before she was ready to have sex outside our marriage but feels that a blowjob, given the right time and circumstances, wouldn’t have been such a big deal. The conversation actually started because I sent her one of those hotwife meme things, one that showed a girl freeing a big dick with a caption that said something like “the dare was just to kiss it.”
Back to the point, vocal Tom. As I said it surprised me, and it was great to learn how it turns Louise on. Some of the things he said to her on Sunday included:
“Fuck, I just love these nipples… I could suck them all day.”
Not long after, when he was rubbing his dick on her boobs, he told her he “could cum like this, all over her tits and her face.”
He often talks about her pussy, and how good it feels to be fucking it. On Sunday he told her how he loves to watch his cock sliding in and out of her wet pussy. He was fucking her from behind at the time.
He also told her he “wants to fuck her in the arse again.”
Louise swears she told me this bit but I must have forgotten, she was and still is the only woman he has got to do that with. After they fucked, and she asked him about it, he told her he thinks about it all the time. He asked the woman he was dating too, if she wanted it there. But no, apparently it isn’t something she will ever do.
Tom does have a deep voice, that I have always known. What I didn’t know is that when he cums, he moans really deeply and, sometimes, they talk up some rather dirty stuff. All about filling her up, cumming in her married pussy and the like. Or he’ll ask her if she want him to pull out, cum all over her tits, or her face. I knew without her saying that her answer would sometimes be yes. Except for the times when she is close to cumming herself of course. I also did not know how much it turns her on.
They are just some examples, there was and often is more, or so I’m told. It’s funny, I asked her if she would like me to be more like that, to talk dirty sometimes, like she does to me (especially when she wants to make me cum). I knew the answer as soon as I asked it though, and pretty much said it myself. It would be too fake, too much like trying to be like him. She did say maybe one day, maybe there’d be a time when it wouldn’t be like that. We’ll see.
He had questions too, about me. Of everything that has happened in the last few days, they may be the most interesting part. I’ll touch on them next.
I do and it’s been a while now…
Whenever I see this one (or similar), I wonder if it is possible for there to be a question I wouldn’t answer…
Maybe not ashamed as such but we have had a few times where Louise has said “oh my gosh” the next morning. Most importantly, they are all dirty little secrets we share together, even if I wasn’t there at the time or, occasionally, even if I don’t know about it for a while. With all I write here, the best parts are what we share together, we have hot, loving sex ten times more often together than times where other guys are involved. We share amazing, intimate moments that none of them experience. There can be looks between us, in all sorts of places, that nobody could possibly begin to understand. Our adventure is very much about sharing her with other guys but it is so much more than that.
Talking Part 2.
We went to the nude beach on Saturday morning, it’s a place we just love to go to but it’s also a place where we do our most serious sex talking. We weren’t at the beach when I first revealed my big fantasy to Louise but it was the place where we most explored what it meant or, should I say, where I tried to explain and she tried to understand. Since then, it has definitely been a place we both associate with our sex lives, many of our little dares have been at the beach or on our way home from it and, as things have developed, it is where were have continued to play little games and talk things over.
It would be easy to say that winter contributed to us not talking enough because, after all, we had not been to our favourite place for several months. But, the truth is that we just got a little complacent. Things had still been exciting during winter but we had just both felt they had slipped a little. Anyway, that is behind us, for now at least, and we found ourselves at the beach, naked on a beautiful day, armed with some new and very interesting information from our neighbours.
I will most often start or steer our conversations onto the sexual side and I was eager to do so on Saturday. On reflection though, it was actually Louise who led most of the conversation, she too had some things on her mind and I was very, very happy to find out about all of them.
“How about that one?” I asked, very soon after we had set up and laid down to enjoy the sun. It was a question about another man, I used to ask if she would suck that guy’s cock but, over time, it had evolved to just that simple question.
“Umm, no way,” she replied. We don’t intend any disrespect to the guy in question but, even when I asked, I knew he wasn’t her type.
“Before you ask, I would with those two though, both of them.” She had motioned her head towards two obviously gay guys and yep, I could have picked that they would both get the nod!
From there, we quickly progressed to talking about Alan and Anna, especially about their little games. That, in turn, saw our conversation move to the little things we do or, specifically, had been doing less of recently.
I used to regularly send Louise some of the captioned Hotwife photos from here on Tumblr. Earlier, I found them a safe way to share things that turned me on, or things I fantasised about. After she had actually dipped her toe in the Hotwife waters, I started to send her ones that either “celebrated” things we/she had just done or ones that hinted at other things to try sometime. I didn’t really think she was into them, she never really said much about them at the time, but our conversation turned to some of those little memes and I learnt that she had actually found them fun and, especially, insightful. Because it was becoming apparent that they actually did have an effect, I asked if she would like me to send more, after all there’s practically thousands to choose from. So, we have a bit of a plan now, I will send her naughty memes, with my own comments on what I think about them, and she will tell me what she thinks too. She is going to do the same, find some of interest to send to me. I’m pretty sure it will be a lot of fun and, even better, it might plant some seeds for things to try and/or even be on the educational side (I’d just love it if it revealed something Louise might like to try).
Our conversation also covered our own “body count,” or Louise’s to be more accurate. I think I wrote earlier about a conversation we’d had about the subject and how I had said I fantasised that she’d end up having sex with more guys after we got married than she had before (yes, it was from a hotwife caption). We were messing around at the time and I got a bit cheeky and said she should go for at least twice as many as before. We ended up playfully “agreeing” that we’d go for ten guys, which would well and truly put us past twice as many than before our marriage. We had a point of confusion though, because we had been talking about New Year’s resolutions she had it in her head that the ten target was for 2024 alone. We did clear it up several months ago but, at that time, she said she was still going to try.
So, with it being December now, there is absolutely zero chance of getting to ten (the number is currently four), especially seeing how we’re going away to spend time with her family over Christmas (even without that it’d still be practically zero chance). However, I learnt that Louise had actually been thinking about other guys that she might add to the count. I was pleasantly and very surprised to hear what all about those thoughts.
First one concerns Grant, the guy she fucked regularly for a while there and I use term “fucked” because it is most appropriate with him. Whilst Louise sleeps with Tom, or has sex with him, maybe even makes loves with him, it is much rawer with Grant. They definitely fuck and it is exciting to watch. Anyway, Grant has a friend, one who Louise actually let me believe had joined in once before and he was always a chance to be included, it just never happened. I knew that Lou still talks and texts with Grant sometimes but I learnt that she has told Grant that he and his mate still owe her a threesome. The downside is that Grant has been seeing someone, he has said it doesn’t matter but it does to Louise. So, that takes it from a highly likely situation to a wait and see what happens one, more on the unlikely side of things unless Grant’s relationship status changes again.
Then there’s Tom. I also knew of a conversation they’d had quite some time ago regarding another friend of his, also named Grant. At the time, Tom had joked about him as a mate who was down on his luck, saying he needed someone to give him a good time to cheer it up. They’d looked at photos and Louise had confessed that she found him “very fucking sexy.” She’s just not sure on where the other Grant is at with his life now and, perhaps more importantly, whether Tom would be into setting something up. We agreed he feels like a 50/50 chance.
She also said she had thought about the two guys she had naughty massages with. Neither are her regular masseur, who she has had sex with plenty of times now, these two were both before him, we travelled interstate both times for those massages. The first of the two was definitely up for much more at the time, he was naked and hard for most of the massage. The second stayed clothed but she did notice he too had a bit of a hard on happening under his jeans. We both know the first guy would only need us to make an appointment and it would happen. The second would need the appointment and then it’d be a case of how bold Louise would get, to make something happen. They’re both something of a chance, if we can plan a trip away. Oh, I should say she is sexually interested in both of them. The first guy had the biggest dick she has ever seen in real life, bigger than Grant’s even. At the time, she figured she wouldn’t want to try something so big, now she’s at least a little bit curious. The second guy was one she found very attractive in his tight white t-shirt, he definitely had sexual appeal for her.
As we talked about those two guys, especially the second, Louise learnt something about my fantasies, something I just thought she knew. I said something along the lines of how I was hoping she would tell me she sucked the first massage guy’s dick. When she was telling me all about her massage (straight after it happened) she tentatively said he had put it in her hand and she squeezed it. Later that night, when she found out how I liked that, she confessed to playing with it a bit more than just a squeeze and how she had definitely been pulling on it when she had one of her orgasms. It was then that I hoped for more confessions, but there was no more to give. Anyway, on the beach on the weekend we clarified something that I thought she knew. My fantasies have always included her giving another guy a blowjob, she thought the fantasies were around her progressing things beyond sucking someone’s dick, that they needed her to have sex with someone. I don’t really know how, over the many years, that we still had that little misunderstanding but it is all clear now. Babe, watching you give a blowjob, or even hearing about it is a huge fantasy and a massively big turn on!
Our conversation digressed, down the blowjob path, for a while then. In a funny sort of way, it was despairing to find out that she would have sucked another guy’s dick for me no problems if she knew that would have been enough to really do it for me. For Louise, blowjobs held nowhere near the same level of taboo as “having another guy inside me” did for so long. Wow, I am still letting off some heavy sighs about that, but with a smile on my face at least.
Just reiterating something I have written before, I have always been a lucky man as Louise does love to suck my dick. Now we are absolutely clear on the fact that we would both love her to suck some more, it opens up a few more possibilities as there’s “plenty for guys that I would suck but not fuck.” Her words obviously.
I did ask for an example and was surprised to hear that her boss of over twenty years might be one, under the right circumstances. His wife, although lovely, does give him a really hard time and there has been plenty of times when he has confided in Louise. Well, Lou told me there’s been a few times when she has thought he could just do with a nice blowjob and now, just maybe, she’ll tell him one day. I had to ask what would happen if he didn’t take it well, if he wasn’t in to doing something like behind his wife’s back.
“Are you kidding, have I not told you how much he always flirts with me?”
She actually hadn’t and that’s a story we agreed to come back to after we had finished talking about everything else that was on our mind.
Then I asked again about the fact that he was married, and would she really do it with a married man.
“No, probably not, but it’d be fun to tease him about it,” was her answer.
We did talk some more about blowjobs, but I’ll just leave it at saying I am quite hopeful there will be some stories to write about in the near future.
That’s probably enough for part 2 as well, more to come when I get some more time.
My wife is my my goddess, my best mate, my soul mate, my inspiration and my safest place, no woman has ever taken my breath away like she has, and now she is my hotwife.Her pleasure is my biggest desire, I had a hotwife fantasy for years, it all came true in September 2023.I love to read about others’ experiences and learn a little bit more about myself as I do.
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