If you think about it epic could easily be turned analog horror series.
So, as for god Odysseus do you have any fun facts about it or at least more of how their cults work?
I'm not well versed with analog horrors (I'm a bigger fan of creepy pasta/books/movies) so I can't say much about the first part.
And for god Odysseus:
- He invented wind chimes (as a source of comfort and also a simple alarm), people attach it to the window of the rooms that they want Odysseus to protect the most (like a child's bedroom), it also works as a basic alarm since trying to break in would make a noise (the wind chimes that are made as a sign for Odysseus have a hawk feather attached to it)
- His first temple was built in Ithaca by Ctimene.
- When he met Diomedes for the first time he pretended to be human to not startle the teen but he didn't realise that the young soldier was attracted to him. (Ody is super oblivious to courting until someone says bluntly what they want/feel)
- Eris is obsessed with Odysseus. She is in love with him and at first she tries to arrange the marriage between them by getting blessings from Hermes and Zeus. Hermes instantly refused and Zeus only refused because Hermes demanded it. She always chases after him and he escapes. It would be a symbol of how you don't feel safe in places full of discord and vice versa.
- Also there would be more than one myth mentioning Eris trying to be with Odysseus (In a similar way we have more than one myth about Apollo's bad luck with lovers)
- Ody chirps and makes bird noises when happy/sad/startled
- Because he was working too much (and because Ares got mad that many conflicts were stopped) Hypnos was ordered by Zeus to make Ody narcoleptic. Now Ody takes a few naps during the day.
- he gave the hedgehog its spikes. The small animal was often bullied by other creatures which made Ody sad, especially since the little being was always playing with it. Hedgehog originally had a very soft fur, it also explained how it was too scared to bite someone. And so when a satyr was using a hedgehog as a pillow to take a nap, Ody turned the fur on the back into spikes, harming satyr and scaring him away.
- bow is his special tool that he uses for his domain. The arrows when hit by someone will send a jolt/shiver that is a silent warning from upcoming danger (explaining idea of "sixth sense"/"sensing danger(having a bad feeling about something)")
So, how exactly does death work for demigods? Cuz one half of Hercules went to the underworld, and one half went to Olympus. Do you think they're still connected to that other half?
I don't think his soul was split in half. It's more likely that as a demigod it takes less effort to burn away his mortality. It is something that gods were doing to people to grant them a longer lifespan but it seems that Heracles didn't need to do it for a long time.
Hi...I'm that person who wrote you the long comment about Ody dying instead of Achilles...
I love this idea of yours!!!
Oh god the tragedy!!! Priam probably saw his son as someone good who did everything that was needed for his people and now when he wants to retrieve his son's body he is forced to face the "monster" who killed his son only to discover it's a grieving child.
And referencing in your story how Agamemnon seemed to question Ody being Achilles' father...What if Achilles during the war tried to avoid being called all the baby names by his dad because he wanted to be taken seriously by all the older kings and generals?
Achilles would on purpose keep his tent further from his father's, go to other camps and where he would spend time with Patroclus, go hunting with literally anyone but his dad and suddenly....his dad is gone.
He guards his father's body preventing it from being buried (Athena would keep Ody's body intact like gods did with Hector's). He does this because he can't accept his dad being gone. He placed Ody's body in the tent of the Ithacan king as if he was sleeping and still had a chance to wake up.
And then Priam shows up. The Trojan king wanted to believe that Achilles was a monster but he sees a scared child who wishes to be hugged by his dad.
They make an agreement in the end.
And finally when people are able to convince Achilles to let Odysseus go, to have a proper burial so he can find happiness in Elysium he goes to his father's tent and starts looking through his thighs and he breaks down.
There were carved wooden toys. Almost the same ones he had in his childhood. Odysseus was probably making them in free time for Telemachus hoping to give them to him some day. Achilles chuckled with teary eyes remembering when as a kid he begged his parents that if he's going to have little siblings, nobody is going to take his toys.
He looked further and in between wooden toys were carved combs, tools and figures of warriors...Odysseus was making gifts for BOTH of his sons. Achilles had to stop himself from crying.
To distract himself he looked at papers and maps on the desk. There he witnessed plans to invade Troy. An idea of a trap with hidden soldiers inside, then he gazed at the wooden toys...he had a plan how to end this war.
When Helen was with them, Achilles refused to see her. He knew he wouldn't blame her for his father's death, and seeing (/hearing) the way she cried hearing about Odysseus' passing, he knew she already blamed herself more than enough.
But what hurt Achilles the most was realising how YOUNG his father was. He was a teen dad. They had around ten year gap in age. Achilles was in his twenties, people around him would call him a kid and yet now he's a similar age his father went to war. This man had an entire future before him and it was taken in one fight.
Now he truly understands why his father always hated war.
Because in war there are no winners...just survivors.
What if Odysseus died instead of Achilles. Wouldn't that be fucked up
Like Patroclus dies, and then he kills Hector, and then his dad dies. He now has three corpses in his tent. And Priam comes to beg for Hector's corpse and tells him to think of his father. But his father is right there. He's dead. Your son killed my father.
shipping telemachus with any of the generals from the trojan war is hilarious because it immediately becomes the scene from 22 jump street with the captain's daughter. you cannot tell me that if somehow achilles banged telemachus that diomedes wouldn't be absolutely dying with laughter running around like "SAY HELLO TO THE STRONGEST OF THE GREEKS BECAUSE ACHILLES IS FUCKED."
it would be even worse if the roles were reversed because you just know that Odysseus would have given diomedes advice. The others would raise themselves from the dead to give diomedes shit.
In addition to that Menelaus broke down crying when seeing Telemachus for how much he looked like Odysseus.
I find the "Telemachus in 'Odysseus' realising his father doesn't know what he looks like as an adult" jokes hilarious, but also, this is what Athena said when she met Telemachus for the first time:
WOMEN! QUEENS! BEAUTIES!!!!
FINALLY! I came up with a vague concept of the women of Sparta, my favourite one is Clytemnestra, I kind of like how she turned out and how she is different from her cousin and sister, I wanted her to be Extravagant, different,more and less traditional at the same time, just like my Hera( I always say that Agamemnon and Clytemnestra are just the earthly equivalent of Zeus and Hera, change my mind)
Especially when in my mind each of them are associated with goddesses that started the whole war
Penelope-Athena
Helen-Aphrodite
Clytemnestra -Hera
bonus some fancy hairstyles for Hera that she will interchange because she can (and I can't decide)
Aphrodite trying to set Ody up on another date with some very willing nymph/mortal:
How Aphrodite usually pranks/pranked Ody?
Trying to set him up on dates/situations where a romantic or sexual encounter might occur
She is SO invested in his love life like to an unreasonable level of OBSESSION
Working on the second chapter of "Sing, O Muse, of Agony". New characters are introduced adding to building drama 🤭🫣
I'd love to know what you think of Anticlea and Ctimene!!!
Menelaus would probably be a good husband who would care for her and give her tons of gifts but at the same time he would absolutely be overprotective!!!
Imagine him complaining that a basic greek armour is too short and is exposing her too much hahaha
Ody probably has her rebellious moments where she pretends to go to meet with some princesses only to cause chaos in disguise hahaha
And I bet Dio would be stubborn as hell. He would look for any way to get closer to Ody but ever since he welcomed her by kissing her hand, Menelaus was ready to draw some blood. Meanwhile Sthenelus and Euryalus would do their best to stop their brother from potentially starting a war over the omega hahaha
Ody would have Menelaus wrapped around her little finger with only exceptions being situations that could possibly put Ody in danger.
What would happen if Agamemnon found out that Odysseus is female Omega during the courting of Helen?
Would he want to blackmail her/court her/ or maybe demand that she marries Menelaus since he wants to ensure a throne for his brother (not being sure if Helen would pick any of them)
There are a few different scenarios that could happen. But he wouldn't attack her. That just wouldn't happen. Because a. Thats a bad look for him to attack an omega (especially an omega woman) who's the guest of his host and b. He had braincells prior to the war so he wasn't a complete fool
1. He gets her to reveal herself to everyone else and now she is getting hounded by everyone else along with Helen. (He would make a fool of her in front of everyone when he outs her too)
2. He attempts to blackmail her into getting Helen to pick him and would demand she marry his brother so he has a throne. And this Would also include getting her to reveal herself and humiliating her. The hardest part is convincing his brother to go along with it because Menelaus isn't the type to marry someone doing it out of distress. (But he would also be the safest option for Ody to marry)
3. He courts her himself. Because hey Ithaca would be a nice edition to his kingdom and forces her to marry him. This is the worst case scenario but also least likely to happen. He has seen Odysseus fight. And I don't think he would want to go through the pain of trying to "tame" her.
4. He doesn't tell anyone and blackmails her without a demand she marry his brother but would blackmail her into marrying one of the other suitors to put her back in her place. And most likely that suitor is the one who reveals she's a woman.
Apollo would be banned by Athena from getting close to Odysseus once he has a different mate than a sun god.
Apollo while being with Ody he didn't understand that he was a bad guy in this scenario. He has a rather shallow understanding of mortals so in his eyes he was a perfect partner and mate to Ody.
Telemachus isn't honestly as weird as some other greek characters. Especially since it wouldn't be common knowledge what happened between Apollo and Odysseus.
How about Omega Odysseus who was secretly courted by Apollo (not eldritch one). When he was a teen (before Penelope) he used to train archery in the favourite spot in the forest. There one day Ody witnessed a beautiful hunter similar age as him who would ask to join in and even help Odysseus improve his techniques.
Athena sensed that something was wrong and she flew to her champion but it was too late. She witnessed a magically created field of flowers whose smell made the young omega overwhelmed and in the middle of it was Apollo who took the form of the alpha so she could bite the omega he fancied.
A year later during the courting of Helen, Odysseus kept his neck hidden. He didn't do it to be more presentable to Helen or Penelope but because he still felt uncomfortable when trying to explain how he got it.
Interesting 👀 go on
My take on this is that Athena is gonna fist fight her brother
And that Apollo 100% going to try to make Odysseus immortal after claiming him
I thought of Dio who would show up later (after Ody and Menelaus would be married for at least a few years)
It could be extra funny if it happened after Diomedes was crowned.
Imagine Menelaus arriving in Argos with his wife only to see this young alpha being instantly smitten with his omega.
Odysseus would be oblivious to Dio's advances meanwhile Menelaus would wrap himself around Ody and grow any time Dio is (for his liking) too close to the queen of Ithaca.
Also I would not be shocked if Menelaus was a type of person who respected Ody as a strategist and a wise queen (mostly thanks to Athena) but at the same time he would panic seeing her having a problem with reaching for something from a high shelf or at the chance of her possibly being left alone with an alpha that isn't her family hahaha
What would happen if Agamemnon found out that Odysseus is female Omega during the courting of Helen?
Would he want to blackmail her/court her/ or maybe demand that she marries Menelaus since he wants to ensure a throne for his brother (not being sure if Helen would pick any of them)
There are a few different scenarios that could happen. But he wouldn't attack her. That just wouldn't happen. Because a. Thats a bad look for him to attack an omega (especially an omega woman) who's the guest of his host and b. He had braincells prior to the war so he wasn't a complete fool
1. He gets her to reveal herself to everyone else and now she is getting hounded by everyone else along with Helen. (He would make a fool of her in front of everyone when he outs her too)
2. He attempts to blackmail her into getting Helen to pick him and would demand she marry his brother so he has a throne. And this Would also include getting her to reveal herself and humiliating her. The hardest part is convincing his brother to go along with it because Menelaus isn't the type to marry someone doing it out of distress. (But he would also be the safest option for Ody to marry)
3. He courts her himself. Because hey Ithaca would be a nice edition to his kingdom and forces her to marry him. This is the worst case scenario but also least likely to happen. He has seen Odysseus fight. And I don't think he would want to go through the pain of trying to "tame" her.
4. He doesn't tell anyone and blackmails her without a demand she marry his brother but would blackmail her into marrying one of the other suitors to put her back in her place. And most likely that suitor is the one who reveals she's a woman.