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A lot of people hate Ford for not talking to Stan for ten years. But explain to me this, if you had a fight with a person (and it was the fault of this person), while not receiving any apologies, but receiving the phrase "I don't need you. I don't need anyone" (though said out of resentment and emotion) WOULD YOU BE THE FIRST TO TURN TO THIS PERSON FOR RECONCILIATION?

I don’t think so….

I would really like to see a REAL scene where Stan would call Ford to talk/ask for help. Ford has many shortcomings, but "impudence" is not among them.

That's why I'm sure Ford would have helped Stan, too, if he had asked and behaved more adequately (for God's sake, when they met, Ford suffered from Bill's possessions and slept very badly. And even so, he didn't behave as badly as a person in his condition could).

Of course, Ford said some unpleasant things to Stan (to put it mildly), and I don't condone it. But if you remember, even then Stan started the quarrel first.

Stan saw the condition of the house and Ford himself. He saw that Ford looked like a madman. Let's be honest Ford looked much worse than Stan in that scene. If I didn't know the plot and I would have been asked which of the two of them is a homeless, I would have pointed to Ford.

Stan in this scene:

A normal man of strong build, shaved, with a calm confident look.

Ford in this scene:

A very paranoid person who opened the door with a CROSSBOW. Disheveled hair, dark circles under his eyes from lack of sleep, unshaven and unkempt. With crazy eyes in which there is obvious fear.

Yes, Ford knew that Stan was a criminal, and Stan knew that Ford was a scientist who received a grant (how they had information about each other to this day is a mystery to me) But it was at that moment that Ford looked like a man who had problems. Deadly problems.

And I don't understand why I see HUNDREDS of articles where all Ford's wrong words are examined under a microscope, but none (I'm serious! I haven't seen any) where would you notice how Stan completely shrugged off his brother's strange behavior.

I MEAN, SERIOUSLY?!

FORD DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A MAN WITH PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW?! SERIOUSLY STAN?!

Yes! Ford's in trouble! Big problems and it shows. Stan saw it too, but immediately dismissed it as soon as he realized that the conversation was not going the way he wanted. Therefore, it is very strange to hear from him at the same moment that Ford is selfish.

His brother looks like a psycho who escaped from a psychiatric hospital, so why make the situation worse? Why, after Ford's words that Stan did not understand the situation, Stan immediately began to draw attention to himself instead of trying to ask what exactly the problem was?

Sorry, but did Stan really think he had the worst problems in the world? And of course, Ford was to blame for these most terrible problems. Because he "left Stan behind." Do you guys understand that this is an unhealthy codependency? Stan didn't even blame Ford for getting kicked out (I could understand that). No, precisely because the fact that Ford left him ruined his life.

Thus, Stan shifted full responsibility for his actions to another person. It's very convenient, but you can't do that even if this person is your twin. At the same time, the "unfair" Ford accused Stan only of breaking the perpetual motion machine, pushing him into the portal and taking his identity (completely spoiling it). And all these things Stan REALLY did

Yes, almost all of Stan's actions had a reason.....but so are Ford's actions. They just needed a better father who would make them talk to each other. Maybe it would help Ford understand Stan's motives (as with their father's chain)

And do you know what the most offensive thing in this situation is? That I also love Stan very much. Not just Ford. I love this particular pair of twins. But when I see things like this over and over again, my mind starts to find arguments against Stan. If everyone justified Ford exclusively and hated Stan, then the situation would be reversed. I would be Stan's lawyer, but the situation is not reversed. That's why I'm more protective of Ford. Because to say that "Ford is an asshole" is quite common for many, even if they love Ford

Let's just admit that Stan and Ford are both super awesome and both idiots equally. Not "Stan is a little better as a person," but exactly equally.

I just see that most of the fandom thinks that "Stan and Ford are both good, but of course Stan is a little better as a person. And much better as a brother".

How can you be so sure if we saw Ford as the victim most of the time? For which Stan never apologized. He didn't apologize for breaking the perpetual motion machine, didn't apologize for the portal, didn't apologize for anything! And he always pretended that he was never guilty of anything. But Ford immediately repented when Stan got burned because of him and when Stan suffered from the memory gun. Ford admits his mistakes, repents and apologizes for them....

Of course, the fact that Stan didn't apologize doesn't make him bad. And it doesn't make him worse than Ford.

It's just strange to me that Ford's haters, who criticize him because of the twins' relationship, so tactfully forget all Stan's shortcomings. Ford has no less shortcomings. I just don't see the point in writing about them, because EVERYONE writes about it.

And this article is not for expressing hatred for Stan.

NO!

This is just to balance out what people write about Ford. And to show that they are both not perfect, but wonderful ..

I suggest you love them both and enjoy a happy ending for them.

It's never too late

I looked at this screenshot, and an idea immediately arose

Time to create!

He is yipee

Okay I just gotta say, before I log off, I've been thinking about the fact that these "lost journal 3" pages exist in TBOB, and that Bill says they were ripped out by Ford. So we know that post-Weirdmageddon, Journal 3 was fully restored, including pages Ford ripped or burned out in the 80s (as well as any deterioration that happened since then), but the pages in TBOB still weren't in there.

What that means is that, post-Weirdmageddon, Ford must has ripped these pages out.

So I can imagine Dipper, super excited, running to Ford like "Grunkle Ford! Look! Your Journals! And they have so many new pages I've never seen before!" and then Ford going "haha that's so cool - WAIT," and then just grabbing the book and ripping out a bunch of pages, some with the embarrassing Polaroids, some with the darkest and scariest parts of his trauma, the way he fell for Bill and his lies, some of his personal memories with Fiddleford, etc. and then just handing it back to Dipper.

Dipper, pointing at the pages in the fireplace: uuuuh what were those

Ford:...... nothing.

It would explain why we, the readers, don't have access to those pages after he throws them in the Bottomless Pit at the end of J3.

New peyring

A mug of tea, a plate of cookies, a little patience and I drew this drawing.

Aroace Ford my beloved

Sun and Moon

I haaaaate when ppl treat ford being upset over his identity being taken and his house getting turned into essentially a mockery of his research was completely unreasonable

like, was stan doing his best with a terrible situation? absolutely! would ford kicking him out be an actually fair option? fuck no!

but he's been in this dimension for probably 12 hours. god knows the last time he's slept. he'd been nearly dead prior to going thru the portal and now has to deal with the fact that he's lost everything. he doesn't even have his own identity anymore.

I honestly don't even think half the shit ford says to stan is truly about stanley or ford's opinion of him, so much as it is about his own issues and how weighed down with guilt he is.

I think its worth noting that ford only ever says mean things about stan when he's pissed off- when he's not angry, he's much more willing to actually discuss things and try to find common ground (such as when he invites stan to play d,d&d).

it honestly comes off more as him not knowing how to communicate anger outside of hurting people than it does genuine malice towards stan. and also I don't think ford ever really internalized that stan was homeless in the duration of the show

I wanted to remember how to draw Bill Cipher.

And also that ship Billford I also like.