These Are All Good Points For Why You Should Vote Lloyd But I Feel It Will Be Amiss If We Do Not Discuss

These are all good points for why you should vote Lloyd but I feel it will be amiss if we do not discuss Antigone a lil bit!

Here's a quick summary of Antigone for those of you who aren't familiar (of there are any inaccuracies pls let me know):

She's the daughter of Oedipus and Jocasta, so this take place right after that one (which I'm sure all of you are familiar with)

Her brother's agree to share the throne by swapping each year. Brother One decides that he isn't gonna give up the throne. Brother Two starts a civil war. They kill each other in a duel (as cursed by Oedipus to do) and Antigone's Uncle is now king.

Uncle gives B1 a nice respectful burial. He drags B2's corpse out of the city and declares that anyone who tries to bury him will be killed. (This is generally considered a Dick Move)

Antigone throws some dirt on B2. Her sister snitches on her. Uncle pulls her aside and says he'll cover for her this time but not to do it again.

Antigone does it again. In broad daylight. The hairs being her in before anyone else sees. Uncle says the same thing but he Really Means It This Time. Antigone says she will die on this hill. Uncle says aight, bet. Antigone calls him a pussy.

Antigone does it again. Uncle puts her in prison and sentences her to death.

Antigone is immured. (Buried alive, they put her in a stone box and walled up the exit)

The gods refuse to answer any prayers. A seer says it's because of the whole Antigone situation. Uncle tries to fix it by burying B2 and freeing Antigone.

Antigone is found to have hanged herself

90% of the characters then all kill themselves in an epic game of grief dominoes. Uncle is left to rule depressed and alone.

As we can see Antigone had many chances to Not Die but didn't take them because of her Fatal Flaws: Pride, Stubbornness and Loyalty.

While Antigone is Doomed, it is she who knowingly Doomed herself.

Lloyd is Doomed by a prophecy outside of his control. Everyone else's actions to delay the prophecy result in it happening sooner. As is the norm. Lloyd takes no actions to hasten, slow or avoid the prophecy because he's, like, eight. Besides asking his dad to please not destroy the world, of course (His dad is unable to do this as he is losing to the curse).

Lloyd never has a choice in the matter at any stage. He has to sacrifice these things each time and get up and keep going, even when he dies.

Lloyd's Fatal Flaws are: Loyalty, Selflessness and Stubbornness

I recognize that there can be debate over how to define tragedy, like Greek tragedies hardly all followed Aristotle's definition and those were in turn different from things like Shakespearean tragedy or modern definitions of "tragic character" but I think at the very least a tragic character should have a coherent arc, quality over quantity. A bunch of UNRELATED bad things happening to a character just because a show has gone on for a really long time isn't really telling a coherent tragic story. Especially when some of the bad things happening are literally repeats of each other. Like I haven't watched Ninjago but I keep hearing about how Lloyd had to kill his father 3 times, but I think reusing a "he has to kill his father" plot point over and over again while not having him die for real just to give each season a new plot is a lot less tragic than a more coherent narrative where someone just has to kill their father once and this ties into their overall character arc.

Very valid opinion

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