Strange Question But I'm Doing A Paper For My Biology Class For Extra Credit And I Wanted A Second Opinion

robert walton laid down in his bed and wrote every letter gushing about victor to margaret in this pose

Feeling some kind of way about these passages from one of the books I've been consulting for my project on melancholia, which was written by Johann Freitag, who lived from 1587-1654.

In it, Freitag (who was a doctor) talks about how difficult it is to cure melancholy, and how patients often grow depressed, suspicious, and angry over the fact that their symptoms persist for months, years, or even their whole lives. He also describes melancholy as an "insolent guest, who doesn't obey the guest-rules" -- a description I absolutely love, in part because it sounds an awful lot like the way my friends and I talk about our own mental illnesses today.

The whole section just feels so true to my own experiences with mental illness (particularly fairly treatment-resistant mental illness), hundreds of years later. It's exactly why I chose this topic for my research project, and really incredible to me.

for some reason people seem to think that mary somehow stumbled into writing a commentary on marriage/incest accidentally, and that the themes of frankenstein are all about her trauma due to her experiences as a victim of the patriarchy, as a woman and a mother surrounded by men - as if she wasnt the child of radical liberals who publicly renounced marriage, as if she herself as well as percy shelley had similar politics on marriage, as if she would not go on to write a novel where the central theme is explicitly that of father/daughter incest years later…

the most obvious and frequent critique of victor i see is of his attempt to create life - the creature - without female presence. it’s taught in schools, wrote about by academics, talked about in fandom spaces - mary shelley was a feminist who wrote about feminism by making victor a misogynist. he’s misogynistic because he invented a method of procreation without involving women purely out of male entitlement and masculine arrogance and superiority, and shelley demonstrates the consequences of subverting women in the creation process/and by extension the patriarchy because this method fails terribly - his son in a monster, and victor is punished for his arrogance via the murder of his entire family; thus there is no place for procreation without the presence of women, right?

while this interpretation – though far from my favorite – is not without merit, i see it thrown around as The interpretation, which i feel does a great disservice to the other themes surrounding victor, the creature, the relationship between mother and child, parenthood, marriage, etc.

this argument also, ironically, tends to undermine the agency and power of frankenstein’s female characters, because it often relies on interpreting them as being solely passive, demure archetypes to establish their distinction from the 3 male narrators, who in contrast are performing violent and/or reprehensible actions while all the woman stay home (i.e., shelley paradoxically critiques the patriarchy by making all her female characters the reductive stereotypes that were enforced during her time period, so the flaws of our male narrators arise due to this social inequality).

in doing so it completely strips elizabeth (and caroline and justine to a lesser extent) of the power of the actions that she DID take — standing up in front of a corrupt court, speaking against the injustice of the system and attempting to fight against its verdict, lamenting the state of female social status that prevented her from visiting victor at ingolstadt, subverting traditional gender roles by offering victor an out to their arranged marriage as opposed to the other way around, taking part in determining ernest’s career and education in direct opposition to alphonse, etc. it also comes off as a very “i could fix him,” vibe, that is, it suggests if women were given equal social standing to men then elizabeth would have been able to rein victor in so to speak and prevent the events of the book from happening. which is a demeaning expectation/obligation in of itself and only reinforces the reductive passive, motherly archetypes that these same people are speaking against

it is also not very well supported: most of the argument rests on ignoring female character’s actual characterization and focusing one specific quote, often taken out of context (“a new species would bless me as its creator and source…no father could claim the gratitude of his child so completely as i should deserve theirs”) which “proves” victor’s sense of male superiority, and on victors treatment/perception of elizabeth, primarily from a line of thinking he had at five years old, where he objectified her by thinking of her (or rather — being told so by caroline) as a gift to him. again, the morality of victor’s character is being determined by thoughts he had at five years old.

obviously this is not at all to say i think their relationship was a healthy one - i dont think victor and elizabeth’s marriage was ever intended to be perceived as good, but more importantly, writing their relationship this way was a deliberate critique of marriage culture.

top 3 worst frankenstein takes:

"frankenstein is the REAL monster". boring, hackneyed, overdone

"mary shelley wrote this just to get away from lord byron" embarassingly wrong, read anything at all she wrote about him to be immediately disproven

transphobia, somehow

Idk I find it kind of endearing that fans of the book tend to call him The Creature rather than The Monster

New Frankenstein origin story just dropped

i dont headcanon anything i simply know the truth the characters told me

started modding my minecraft and i immediately went for the furniture mods.... anyways test build ! victors dorm ! version 1!! i will try to improve it next time i build (+ add shaders.... perhaps)

I read this book in eglish class .. franking stein

For the last time: Mary Shelley and Lord Byron were friends. She didn't hate him. His death was a very painful loss to her. She didn't write Frankenstein because she was stuck in a house with him and he was an unbearable person. For God's sake, just read her journals and letters.