Some Of Y'all Fundamentally Misunderstand My Favorite Characters But Im Being Sooooo Normal And Mature

oh look both of my writing styles in one post

On the one hand, I want to write complex, richly crafted characters and explore their psyches and what makes them tick.

On the other hand, I want giant set piece encounters where two people whack at each other with swords five hundred feet in the air, and just when it looks like one of them has won, the other guy pulls out an even bigger sword.

do you think dick and steph could be close ?

100% and they have been in canon and should continue to be (never as much as like Steph and Cass or Tim but still barring those too I like to think her dick and Damian have their own lil trio)

i am tired of people acting like duke hates dick, he doesn’t did he feel betrayed ? yeah but honestly he got over it pretty quickly he actually admires him

NO YOURE SO FR!! For this

I agree 100%

Also listen I haven’t read much of Duke bc he was introduced in the new 52 and I tend to avoid literally everything to do with the new 52 after i picked up the outlaws (it took me 1 (one) LOOK at my precious meow meow Kori to lose interest)

But I have read bits and pieces and literally everything I have seen shows no dislike? Or hatred or anything really?

Like?? Idk

I made a post about Duke being Dicks favorite bc he deals with his own shit and has a parent! So that means Bruce doesn’t have to try and fail so dick doesn’t have to pick up the slack

And like 40% of the comments were like (Duke hates dick tho) and like correct me bc once again I think outside of like Harper? And Kate? Duke is prolly the character in the bats I have engaged with the least media of.

But like I have not seen anything that states like a solid hatred of Robin 1

Like I love an AU right so if you wanna write about if war games never happened and Gotham didn’t try to ruin itself once a week cool fine slay (keep Dick self destructing for years it’s good content idm)

But for the whole tarantula thing to HAVE an impact I feel like you have to acknowledge that he it never would have happed to a character as weathered as Dick (even at the time when a solo nightwing was supposedly more new to the scene)

But like no it only works when you see how many people died bc of blockbuster and how that weighed down on him as a person.

Blockbuster didn’t just ‘discover his identity’ Maxine Micheal’s was a big reason it happened and when Nightwing confronted her she got shot in the head in front of him

Dick figures out that they know his identity Like 4 issues before the blockbuster confrontation

When Firefly makes his first reappearance since no mans land to burn his circus down

This was after Babs, Tim and Cass had all been targeted

And then 1 issue later

Dick leaves earlier (and makes a bad daywing pun no im serious i love him) for patrol and then watches his apartment blow up. Which would be angsty by itself if you ignore the fact that

1) the dude (yoska- and they have like a weird relationship bc of ras al ghul and like he firmly believed he was dicks grandfather biologically and even when that was proven false he moved to bludhaven and admits he still considered them family) teaching dick his own language was in there

2) dick found his dead body in the rubble

3) dick actually bought the apartment building to keep it from being demolished and indirectly kept all those people in the building

Anyway you don’t NEED to read the comics imo as long as you engage with the other content like yeah you’re a dc fan if you like any of the animated properties but like why write about a plot point without knowing the surrounding moments doesn’t that take away from the premium angst content?

+ I didn’t really like or finish war games or his whole like let’s join the mob thing featuring the unironic name “crutches” after but come on the deathstroke and rose shit was so interesting!

Today in challenges for Nightwing fanfic writers - writing fic that makes it obvious the person has:

Actually read Nightwing #92-95 (1996)

Knows the context in which this story happens (what events precede this and which immediately follows it?)

Is aware what Batman characters have met Tarantula

Can outline the occasions when Dick and Catalina are in contact AFTER Nightwing #95

Heck can name literally any appearance for Tarantula after Nightwing #93 (1996)

Can explain the discussion Bruce and Dick have in Nightwing #117 (1996) and how that discussion relates to everything above, and what is not mentioned in that discussion

It shouldn’t be this hard.

I need in my life Tim Drake who does rely on adults but really only one and Bruce is jealous as fuck about it.

"Tim where's your spleen, why haven't you told anyone about this"

"I told Dick what you talking about"

"Tim you played baseball in outerspace why didn't you call for backup?"

"I called Dick"

Why didn't you tell us you were bisexual"

"Dick's known for years? Wym?"

You see my vision Bruce, Alfred, Jack Drake I need these adults pushing for Tim to talk to them or ask for help and this boy to just constantly be like Dick knows, I called Dick, why would I call you.

Dick's sitting pretty knowing everything not surprised by a single fact because if it's the stupidest thing or the most important guess what Tim called him.

The man knows and sees all because Tim heard once that you tell a trusted adult important stuff and well Tim has only ever trusted one.

Bro this whole discourse over who would be a republican/ a trumpie in the dc verse is so stupid imo bc we have so much canon info

Batfamily: none of them have been even vaguely conservative since the 90s, infact they’re all pretty far left with Bruce being the most center because he trusts one (1) cop. (Oooh but dick was a cop, yes as an infiltration tactic until he realized they were too corrupt -he was also like 19-20 during this time- to fix and canonically doesn’t work with them at all as a rule)

Bruce rebuilds his city pro bono like twice a year and single handedly funds like 80% of their social welfare, it’s also canon he refers goons to the nearest Wayne enterprise and gets them hired if Batman knows they’re just their bc they’re struggling

Arrows: NEVER INSULT OLIVER QUEEN IN MY FACE EVER AGAIN. This man is 50% a communist 50% Bernie sanders biggest fan depending on the media.

This man would never be a republican ignoring the arrowverse like it’s actually canon that Ollie won’t shut up about politics

Superfam: … the illegal alien who has to hide the fact he’s different from everyone else in a small town…. Hmmm maybe Kon is conservative if you’re blind, deaf and a little slow, Jon has a pink haired boyfriend and is besties with a middle eastern/south Asian kid actually so let’s not?

Clark Canonically hates the KKK you think he’d be part of the party whose candidate was endorsed by them??

Flashes: Barry Allen is a conservative, Wally west was when he was younger but he’s been pretty liberal since he became as adult, Wallace has never been conservative (TV Barry you will always be the most likeable Barry)

Lanterns: Hal Jordan is a Conservative, the rest are in fact not

Wonder Woman collective: Diana??? Donna??? Artemis?? Cassie??? None of the above don’t be dumb

Anyway it’s pretty hard to have a heroic character who doesn’t believe in social welfare? Since they’re running around saving people for free and 99% of them are anti killing. + having characters be sexist, racist and/or homophobic makes them less likable objectively and also narrows down the amount of stories you can tell.

any thoughts on dick haunting the narrative despite being very much alive ?

See my favorite part about this is that Dick doesn’t haunt the entire narrative. Usually when he’s mentioned in other people’s comics (roy,Wally etc) it’s something like “thank god for dick Grayson” or “gee I sure liked working with nightwing” or even “damn I hate the fact I have to do this but nightwing asked and like he doesn’t do that” the same way all the titans reference each other.

You might get a bit more reverence out of like raven? Or Clark? Casually saying Dick Grayson is their favorite or something

But Dick Grayson specifically haunts things that are literally in anyway related to Bruce Wayne (including Bruce) and it’s entirely their fault.

Bc to haunt a narrative one must not be accessible in the narrative imo. And every single one of the bats is too chicken shit to have a normal human conversation.

Bc like Dick does show up in other characters comics, he helps out in the birds of prey, most of the fab 5 have mentioned that he stops by whenever they’re lucky enough to have a solo run -DC GIVE DONNA TROY A SOLO RUN- he helps a lot of the younger teams, he works with the league.

Now GOD FORBID BRUCE CALL HIS SON WHEN HES MENTAL BREAKDOWNING.

Bc yeah he does haunt the Batman narrative. If I had a nickel for every time I turned the page on a Batman solo comic to suddenly get 2 pages of “dick Grayson, my ward the first Robin. My greatest achievement” spat at me I would have enough nickels to buy the comic bookstore

Or in a Robin comic “dick Grayson, the first Robin, he was the blueprint” like if yall wanna act like this pick up the phone and call the man.

Like despite what I and the fandom will tell you. There has never been a time where Dick and the bats weren’t on speaking terms (Jason excluded for reasons of murder and general bitterness) but even when Dick and Bruce hated being near each other -post Jason death- they could still work together.

They just decide to go “ah yes nightwing he’s great and he could probably help wish he was here anyway I’m not gonna call him”

People will bring up Red Robin but him and Tim were solid for like 99% of that so be so fr

Anyway all I’m saying is that Batman and his Russian nesting doll collection of ever shrinking robins need therapy and maybe medication but it’s okay I love them anyway

Yall I have like 40 wips rn and I need to finish one of them but I have indecision paralysis and am now just playing genshin impact instead of anything on my to do list.

Same aesthetic as starfire but with the Nightwing color palette

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roy’s whole pitch to dick at the start of outsiders is so fucking funny when you actually think about it. bc it’s like:

dick: I can’t be on a team again, I won’t lead friends and family into danger anymore!

roy: cool cool of course man, no problem! it’ll just be strangers and coworkers this time. no deep emotional bonds, I promise! ignore the fact that you’re one of the people I love most in the world and we’ve been family to each other for half our lives and I’m creating this team specifically to help and support you

dick: seems legit, I’m in