i miss his loser era š¾š¤
smol and angy
im a firm believer that shigaraki listens to game OSTās instead of normal music
I just adore Tomura talking like a gamer. It is my whole life. šµāš«
Cynical and bitter but I've been wondering if the League getting such a downer ending was indeed the plan all along.
Originally, Horikoshi never wanted to do Villain profiles. He wanted the Villains to be scary. Maybe he always intended death to be the answer to them, even as he expanded on their backstories.
In an old interview from 2018, when asked if Shigaraki is a villain who should be saved, Horikoshi does answer 'yes', but then follow it up with: "I think that we have gotten to the point where Shigaraki can no longer turn back though."
Movie 2 ending - which Horikoshi said was the ending he originally planned - has Deku and Bakugou punching Nine (pseudo-Shigaraki) to death-as-they-know-it.
Once again, technically, Shigaraki's heart was saved. Deku smashed his hatred. Deku took Tenko's hands. Unfortunately Shigaraki didn't immediately convert to Heroism and still wanted to fight for the League - point where he didn't turn back - so Deku gave up trying to save him physically.
A few weeks before, I thought that Horikoshi just got tied and wrapped things up in the quickest and sadly weirdest way possible. I still am willing to allow that, but ever since Horikoshi started Act 3 three years ago, he never actually wrote Heroes giving the Villains' grievances any serious consideration until it comes out during the confrontation and the Heroes giving a few words towards it at best, and at worse, not even knowing the problem (quirk counseling, Tenko's Walk). He let Uraraka and Deku still adhere to insisting on practically dehumanizing their opponents/Villains the day before the final battle (probably so that when Uraraka and Deku realize they still can't ignore the pain they see in their Villains and finally reach out a bit, that's the height of compassion and heroism.)
But really, sorry not sorry to sound like a broken record, Act 3 had Deku acting like a dipshit the entire time. He says he wants to save The Crying Child he saw inside Shigaraki's heart, and not necessarily Shigaraki the person, and never actually takes killing off the table. He only vaguely keeps up this idea. He never reveals this desire to anyone, never involves his friends or adults in this plan. He doesn't even have a concrete plan, and all he never did was just to keep punching Shigaraki to kingdom come. He never actually protested when Gran Torino told him he should kill Shigaraki, he never opposes the creation of a battlefield called "Sky Coffin", he does not speak up when the Heroes says they prefer the AFO persona to be in possession of Shigaraki. During their whole fight, Deku barely talks to the guy.
The best Deku ever does is to hold back on giving Shigaraki an annihilation blow until he could find out why The Crying Child was crying, which he does by literally smashing into Shigaraki's core to pry his trauma open. And even then, when Tenko is spilling out his guilt and grief that he killed his family, as well as his fears that his existence is cursed, all Deku has to say is "Well, holding hands feels nice, so I'm here." I get that's supposed to be like, Deku accepting Tenko despite Tenko having a deadly quirk and blood on his hands, but come on. As an act of Greatest Heroism that it's supposed to be, that's so... low bar, to put it mildly.
(Then when Shigaraki gets repossessed, Deku gives up any thinking on saving Shigaraki, and then readies up the annihilation punch. Volume release even expands on just how much power and preparation Deku is using to smash Shigaraki's body to pieces. There's no intent to figure out if Shigaraki is still there to bring back or minimize harm to Shigaraki's body so there's something left after AFO is gone. It's not an accident. Deku fully goes in for the kill.)
It all feels like truly saving Shigaraki - from possession, from AFO, from his distorted worldview, from a Hero System that hurt his friends, from his belief that the world isn't worth preserving - just wasn't a real goal for Deku. Never was, in Act 3. He wanted to understand The Crying Child and give some relief there, but that's it. Like exorcising an evil spirit and then forcing them to move on, never actually wanting the spirit to remain and continue existing - because there's no place for them in this world. (Which is why Deku also never has a vision for what comes after, for Shigaraki. Shouto wanted a meal with Dabi, Uraraka promised her blood to Toga, but Deku? Nothing.)
Overall, the ending actually does fit Deku's writing in the last act. He wants to save the ghost of The Crying Child but nothing else. He expands minimal effort in actually connecting with Shigaraki the adult man. He has no interest in addressing Shigaraki's grievances (nor in also saving the rest of League that Shigaraki is doing all this for) (and also it turns out Shigaraki's grievances aren't real because AFO made most of them up). His strategy is just to beat up Shigaraki until Shigaraki throws up his trauma.
Adding to that, Deku's last words to a dying Shigaraki is that he can't forgive him, so basically he's considering Shigaraki as having past the point of return - exactly as Horikoshi stated in his interview. There might be something to Deku regretfully telling All Might that he couldn't save Tenko's life, but when he follows it up with "Even after I smashed his hatred, he still wanted to stay the League's leader," that really can't be anything but Deku basically putting some of the blame on Shigaraki, for not ditching his friends (who, to Deku, apparently don't deserve to be saved alongside Shigaraki). Sticking with the League is being past the point of turning back... which is the same conclusion Hawks comes to with Twice, in Act 2 (...so it seems that's been there all along.)
The ending fits Deku's writing - and overall - in the last act (and even before that.) Deku's utter non-progress fits Shigaraki's conclusion. His half-hearted actions made sense and so of course led to his final battle of just giving Shigaraki a giant Smash (but with pity and some sympathy, because he's not an cold killer but a Hero who can even spare emotions towards a monster).
I really had toyed with the idea that maybe Horikoshi got tired and just ended it this sad way. Now I'm no longer so generous.
I decided to go insane so here's a recording of his voice lines in MHAUI + my translations~! ā¤ļø
Warning - I know very little japanese, so it's mostly me spending way too much time in translation software lmaoo. So, please correct me or feel free to add some context here!!
Receiving Gift - I will leave you to it./I'm gonna mark it as token of love (?? Off to a bad start here. I keep hearing "love" here. Is this projection?? Lmao. It amounts to something like the second one, but my translator apps also keep hearing "I'm gonna leave love behind"... Which is also interesting in a way but uh... *Confusion*)
Home Screen 1 - Aah, I hate it⦠I'm gonna destroy everything that annoys me.
Home Screen 2 - Maa, let's do our best together, okay?
Home Screen (Morning) 1 - You're energetic this early in the morning⦠I'm still sleepyā¦
Home Screen (Morning) 2 - Why are you so noisy? I'm not ready yet.
Home Screen (Afternoon) 1 - I'm getting on a roll now⦠Let's crush the society today.
Home Screen (Afternoon) 2 - Alright⦠Let's have some tea.
Home Screen (Evening) 1 - I'm seriously motivated... I'm talking about a game. A game.
Home Screen (Evening) 2 - Looks like the world is having fun. They let their guard down/They're so careless.
Home Screen (Night) 1 - The day is coming to an end and the goofy smiling heroes are yet to be destroyed. It's still not enough.
Home Screen (Night) 2 - Villains hide/live in the darkness. I'm starting to see why.
Home Screen (Late Night) 1 - Finally, a response⦠Someone who can get to work. (I'm pretty sure he literally says "Someone who can move" loool)
Home Screen (Late Night) 2 - Kurogiri, Toga- Hah? Already asleep? Are you little kids? (Not sure if he says Toga here tbh)
Home Screen (Early Morning) 1 - I'm sleepy⦠Aaah, so sleepyā¦
Home Screen (Early Morning) 2 - I'm going to sleep now. If you disturb me, I'm gonna destroy you too. (Though my translator also said "Go to bed now or I'm gonna destroy you too". Which, I gotta mention because it was too cute.)
Home Screen (Gift Box) - Look at that. Too good to waste.
Home Screen (Event) - An event? Want to destroy it to kill some time?
Battle Start Dialogue - Izuku Midoriya - At this rate, I feel like something is missing⦠(??? I have genuinely no clue what he's saying here. That's why I got, dunno.)
Battle Start Dialogue - Dabi - This guy is as rude as ever. So annoying.
Battle Start Dialogue - Himiko Toga - Toga, over there.
Battle Start Dialogue - All For One - Sensei, is it fine if I destroy those guys?
WAVE Progress - I'm feeling a bit better now.
Team Defeated in Battle - Ah⦠This time it's game over.
Sub-Character Entering Battle - Alright. Continue. (Context - as in, clicking "continue" in a game pause menu lol)
Level Up - Something's changed? I don't feel it.
Awaken - Plus... What is it again? (making fun of the phrase āPlus Ultra!ā ~ thank you arakn0 !!)
Ability Board Completion - My brain is spinning round and roundā¦
Login Bonus - Let's begin.
Maintenance - Why are you here? Go home.
Recruit Obtained - [Perdition] Tomura Shigaraki - Paranormal Liberation Front⦠Well, a name is just a decoration⦠Do as you like.
6-Month Anniversary Celebration Announcement - Nice. It's called a half-anniversary.
1st Anniversary Celebration Announcement - 1st anniversary⦠So, what shall we destroy first?
2nd Anniversary Celebration Announcement - It's been 2 years already⦠It's going well.
hori was beyond cruel for making him resemble tenko and get our hopes up again :(
fr man
I hope everyone had a happy new year!!
every time i read tomura x tall reader i remember that particular scene from high-rise invasion š
could u pretty please do tomura with a tall reader (like his height or taller) since u did the short reader hcs PLEAAASE š
A/N: this is so self indulgent, I'm taller than him by like two inches but like come on let me dream.
WARNINGS: nsfw, ooc tomura.
he loves the size difference so, so much.
he loves that he can sit in your lap and have you as his own gaming chair for when he's not on his pc and playing games on his console.
please pet him oh my god he's WEAK.
he loves it when he can just rest in your chest and have you stroke the top of his head.
he will have you carry him to his bed if he falls asleep on his gaming chair.
speaking of chairs, he loves laying down on you, sitting on you, just being close to you. although he'll never say it to your face.
his body is unnaturally cold, like this man barely has any warmth so it's your job to keep him warm.
your height makes it easy to hide things from him, so it's either he climbs on a table or chair to get things and he says he looks stupid while doing it so he just sulks and tantrums until you give it back.
he does make the classic stupid tall jokes, and when you've pissed him off, he'll call you 'a big dumb bastard' (ref to gigantomachia).
he has asked you how's the weather up there.
in crowded places in the malls he holds onto you because your taller than the average height in japan, which is only around 5'5-5'10, so that means you're kind of like walking in a pool of people and can help guide him to avoid being smushed.
you two attract some attention though, with your height and his already odd manerisms, people will stare.
If it isn't related to your quirk, he will ask why you're so damn big. what's your secret?
sometimes he stays awake longer than you on his bed because he loves it when you smush him and get ontop of him because your warm, you have weight, weighted blanket that heats him up, perfect.
please wear heels, oh my god, he loves it, platform boots? yes. anything that increases your height he's inlove and quietly encourages you to do it more (aka more chest nuzzles when you do).
if you're like tall tall, he'll make a comment on how you're just as tall as Kurogiri (6'4) but his master's still taller. (7'4)he will rant about his master if you ask or say anything back.
if your a woman, boobs for days, he will have his face all up in them when you're in his room.
if you're a man, pecs for days, he will be touchy with you no matter what gender, he'll probably treasure you so much to the point the only time he'll sleep beside you is when he has his special gloves from when he was a little kid.
sex is honestly really good with him. even if you're riding him, you can still pin his hands down, if you're under him, you can grab at his body as much as you want.
if you're doing it sideways, nudge his face into your neck and tell him to keep making those pretty noises.
if it's from the back his face willļæ¼ unfortunately be rested right against your back and sometimes it can cause you to overheat :(
overall, sex with him, you're mostly a powerbottom, but he doesn't know that. he thinks you're so submissive unless you're actively voicing that you're dominating him.
His favorite position is missionary by far, he loves humping into you while his face is buried into your chest, hearing your rapid heartbeat too and his arms hugging your waist tightly.
please wrap your legs around his waist when he cums, he'll give you an extra load if you do.
sometimes he'll pull out after he's made you cum so he can jerk off to your body and spill his load on your stomach or thighs.
if he's at the bottom or you're doing foreplay, please press his legs against his chest and make him feel small. he won't admit it but he really likes it.
like i said, for some reason he's really cold so whenever he blows his load and he's resting he'll press against you and for some reason his body is covered in cold sweat. it's odd.
when you're riding him, pull his hair, or grab the bundle of fringe by his face an use another hand to cup the back of his head so you can tilt it upwards and ravage his neck. he'll cum quick but he can recover fast, he promises.
please hold him by the armpits, don't actually pick him up it makes him feel weird when it's like that but when you're in bed and feeling him up, hold him there and run your hands up and down all the way to his hips.
his favourite thing to do is quietly motorboat your chest, he'll make the noises in his head but in reality he just looks really stupid, it's hard not to laugh so he mostly does it when you're half awake.
āAke 2024
Right now, people are speculating if tomura has lost his humanity which includes his attachment to the league now that he was awakened with his new quirk as a ātranscendent beingā. I wonder how he will interact with his team when he returns? Will he question how the heroes managed to get the jump on them? How will he react to twiceās death? To Dabi letting in a hero spy into their lair and causing this raid and twiceās death? Is the tomura we have seen grow disappeared or is he still the same?
People may question if Shigaraki Tomura has lost his humanity since acquiring AFOās power, however I would like to point out that itās a running theme in the manga for characters to frequently question the humanity of Shigaraki and see him as something less than human, or a force that only exists for evil and destruction.Ā
However, despite the fact that the heroes and Shigarakiās enemies insist that Shigaraki has lost his humanity, the story shows the opposite. As much as Shigaraki has changed over the course of the story, he has also stayed the same.Ā
Shigaraki started out as a kid who wanted to be a hero who saved others, and specifically a kid who would go out of his way to play with the bullied kids. Everyone knows this by now, I would say however growing up in that household shaped Shigaraki to have core values that donāt really change no matter how much he changes as a person.Ā
Number one, the most important thing to Shigaraki is freedom. In a childish way he sees it as the freedom to do whatever he wants, because that is how All For One influenced him.Ā
All for One specifically told Shigaraki that being born with the power to destroy means that he should use it without restraint, and never try to hold himself back because in doing so heāll only hurt himself. AFO tried to influence him to be an unstable manchild because that would make him more dangerous and fearsome to the general public.
However, Shigarakiās destruction is always a response. He always destroys for a reason no matter how much he insists his destruction is completely random. One of the key themes of My Hero Academia is that in times of crisis you will remember your origin. Shigarakiās origin is a household that oppressed him to the extent that he wasnāt allowed to become a hero. All he wanted was someone in that household to agree with him rather than deny him. He wanted people to stop telling him he was wrong.Ā
Shigaraki values freedom, specifically freedom from oppression. Oppression that specifically denies the needs of an individual just because they disrupt society. For example, the opppression that had Himikoās parents turn abusive on her calling her a demon child because she was born with a strange quirk.Ā
In that way Shigaraki fights for a kind of true liberation, different from what the liberation force fights for. The Meta Liberation Army while wanting to overturn society also repeated several of societyās oppressive attitude, juding peopleās worth based entirely on the strength of their quirk whereas Shigaraki is willing to accept people like Compress, and Spinner who do not have super powerful combat efficient quirks and value them just as much as all the other members from his team.Ā
Shigaraki also knows the feelings of someone who has not been saved. Heās reflected on this several times, even as early back as his conversation with Deku. He knows that the way the current society functions, it ignores the plights of victims like him that are either too inconvenient to save.Ā
Itās what Shigaraki says to Deku word for word:Ā āI could hurt you right now and not a single person would come save you. Theyāll all walk by and pretend itās none of their business, because they all think a hero is going to come save them.ā
Shigaraki is willing to give people like Twice a chance, even though he was insane and his quirk no longer worked as well as it once did. Not only that, but when people make mistakes Shigaraki never throws them away. Giran is captured and ratted them out, and Shigaraki went to go save them. Twice makes a mistake and because of that Magne is killed, but rather than get angry at Twice, Shigaraki simply asks Twice to do his best to make up for his mistake, and that heāll be doing his best alongside him.Ā
Shigaraki understands the feelings of:Ā āIf only somebody had saved meā better than anyone else in the manga. This is something that even the kids donāt question. The kids in their complete and unwavering faith in the hero system canāt even respond to questions likeĀ āWho should you really be saving?āĀ
Shigaraki also goes out of his way to save people even after theyāve made mistakes, or betrayed the league. Giran ratted on them and got nearly every member killed, and yet not only did Shigaraki walk right into a trap to save him, he also took special care to make sure he was alive, and rescued safely when he was in the middle of getting pounded.Ā
The final is also somewhat of a paradox. Shigaraki has been manipulated to think that he hated his family, andĀ wanted to kill everyone.Ā
However, all of Shigarakiās actions show the opposite. Not only does Shigaraki feel guilt for killing his family several years after the fact. Not only did he intentionally hold back his quirk at first because he was afraid of killing again. The words of his family stayed with him. Shigaraki only ever remembers his family in a mostly positive light.Ā
In his heart, Shigaraki holds himself accountable for what he did to his family even though it was an accident. At the same time, itās revealed to us in his dream sequence that he already forgives his family for what transpired today, he remembers his grandparents being kind to him, he doesnāt resent his mom for just watching what his family did to him and even reassures her, he tells his sister he doesnāt care that she tattled on him anymore.Ā
His family is someone he can never forget in both senses of the word. He doesnāt forget the times his family household was kind to him, the genuine love his mother, grandparents, and sister all showed to him, and he hasnāt really stopped mourning them ever for a single moment. He even still keeps Nanaās hand, the last hand that wasnāt broken and wears it after his so calledĀ āliberationā from his past memories of them. Yet, at the same time he doesnāt allow his family to deny who he is.Ā
Shigaraki is someone who has been influenced by people all of ihs life, his abusive father, AFO, and then all of AFOās constituents and the other villains heās fought against so far. However, at the same time Shigaraki has remained the same kid throughout all of this. Always Shimura Tenko. Always the kid who wanted to play with the kids who got bullied. Always the kid resentful he didnāt get saved.Ā
Eri is referred to as a cursed inhuman existence born only to destroy, simply because of the quirk she was born with, completely neglecting who Eri is as a person. Deku however says that just by slightly changing your perspective, you can see how kind and gentle Eri is.Ā
Shigaraki is a character much like this. The people around him, mostly heroes always insist that heās inhuman and again and again that he can only want destruction because of his quirk. Yet, the people closest to Shigaraki know how kind, and gentle he can be.Ā
So we have characters like All Might, Mr. Completely Ignores Endeavorās abuse of his own family, constantly saying that someone like Shigaraki canāt possibly have a cause for all of his destruction. Ignoring what Shigaraki says when he tells them that heroes can be violent too just like villains, their violence is just categorized differently.Ā
Shigaraki is continually told he has no reason for wanting to destroy things, that there could be no possible motivation behind his actions. This is something that even AFO himself said, that Shigaraki simply lusted for destruction because he was born that way.
Characters insist again, that Shigaraki isnāt capable of creating anything, or achieving anything because he can only destroy. This is an identity thatās forced on him by his environment ut itās not who he is at the center of his being. Even when heās getting the tar beaten out of him by Re-Destro what he thinks is not that he wants to destroy, but rather that he wanted his family to tell him it was okay for him to be a hero.
So we reach the most recent chapter with someone once again asserting that Shigaraki cannot possibly want anything other than to hurt the people around him, and destroy what he can.
Even ENDEAVOR (lol) of all people accuses Shigaraki of not fighting for the right ideals. Yet, Shigaraki has always shown to be fighting for something.Ā
People insist that Shigaraki was just born that way, that he just wants to destroy. Yet, there are very specific environmental factors that shaped him into who he is. Shigaraki who apparently has no reasons for doing the things he does, has the longest backstory in the series (four origin chapters in total if you count Shigaraki Tomura: Distortion). Shigarakiās line against Endeavor also implies that Shigaraki has been fighting for the same thing from the start. That heās always had a cause, something to fight for (or maybe even just fight against) and that he simply believed what other people constantly told him.Ā
So, no clearly the All For One quirk being given to Shigaraki has not changed who he is as a person at all. Shigarakiās thoughts always rest with his friends and his family.Ā Shigarakiās first literal action upon waking up is to call Machia to his side, and protect the league. Shigarakiās actions also saved Himiko, because if Machia had not picked her up she likely would have gone on a suicide mission.Ā
So, there is one last point I want to make: The reason the plan is going so wrong right now is precisely because Shigaraki is someone who chooses again and again to put his trust in others. First, it went wrong because not only did he allow Dabi free reign to invite whoever he wanted to the league, but he also trusted Twice with his location.Ā
Shigaraki wonāt throw Dabi out of the league for saying that heās only here to use the league for his own benefit, because Shigaraki has always known this about Dabi and lets him work with the league anyway. Shigaraki is someone who puts his allies before themselves and gives them the freedom to be who they want to be.Ā
Shigaraki has said mutliple times the league can do whatever they want. Heās not really selfishly minded or motivated like AFO is. If anything, Shigaraki is much more likely to sacrifice himself, or put the groupās needs first. The Shigaraki that weāve seen right now is the same progression of the Shigaraki weāve always known: he fights on the front lines to draw the heroes away from his friends, he fights himself instead of needlessly risking his own allies, he needs his allies by his side.Ā
The raid happened because of Shigarakiās trusting nature twice. Not only because he allowed Dabi to invite Hawks to the league, but also Kurogiriās capture and betrayal someone Shigaraki was genuinely close to and listened to for counsel led to his location at the hospital being ratted out to both Eraserhead and Mic. So itās not Shigaraki not trusting others that led to the Hospital Raid, but rather itās because Shigaraki chose to trust others that this is all happening.
YET, when this happened last time with Overhaul Shigaraki didnāt stop trusting others. He didnāt throw Twice out. His choice back then was to take responsibility and trust Twice even more to fix the mistake he made. Which will likely be his response again.Ā
Shigaraki also fights against anyone who tries to control or oppress him the same way his father did once. When AFO tries to physically control his own body, he frees himself of the vestiges.
Shigaraki wonāt lose his trust in other people, and wonāt lose his close relationship with the league, because Shigaraki has already sustained this kind of loss before. Over and over again. He loses most of the Nomus, he loses Magne, he loses AFO. Yet, at those times when he loses these things Shigarakiās response is always the same.Ā
Shigaraki is struggling to be better that the environment that created him. Shigarakiās arc is not one of him losing his humanity, but rather Shigaraki keeping his humanity in the face of constant losses.Ā
His environment is really truly something that should have robbed him of his humanity. There are people like AFO who are out there to make him into a puppet, to rob him of all agency, and identity. Yet, Shigaraki always fights back against those trying to control him and tell him no.
Shigaraki wonāt turn on the league, because his connections with the league are what make him human. Itās his connections with others he makes over and over again in the face of his extremely oppressive environment, first with Kurogiri, then with the league that allows him to stay the same at the core of who he is.Ā
While Shigaraki is constantly dehumanized by both the hero system and the villains he fights against, heās actually one of the most human characters in the whole series. Not only is he very sympathetic and understandable where exactly he is coming from, but heās also always, always, always, always, struggling against a set of very human flaws.Ā
THE MAGIC CONCH š
not only that but tomura never knew what happened to twice or dabiās real name. he never knew what happened to his friends, not even spinner.
The worst thing about this ending is that Giran is nowhere to be found
Iām still mad we never got a Giran/Twice scene after the MVA arc. The league risked their lives for him and then never interacted with him again. š