Both Kyle And Cartman Joined The Debate Club In High School. Kyle Thought It Would Help Him With His

both kyle and cartman joined the debate club in high school. kyle thought it would help him with his public speaking skills and improve his critical thinking, meanwhile cartman was just looking for an opportunity to release the anger and stress he had and fucking destroy someone in a verbal fight.

and – uh-oh, such a coincidence – they both joined it at the same time without knowing it.

kyle was obviously pissed off, and he was actually thinking of quitting, because the idea of spending school hours arguing with cartman didn’t really seem appealing to him, but eventually his pride wouldn’t let him simply give up.

“I can be in any club I want, and I won’t let Cartman fucking ruin it for me! You’ll see, dude, he’ll drop out in one or two meetings when I absolutely win him in a debate!” as he then explained to stan.

kyle was preparing for the first debate harder than for any of his normal school activities. he would spend nights perfecting his reasoning and making a plan for his speech, until he was absolutely sure cartman had zero chances to win.

the theme was something controversial like, i’m not sure, politics or something, and kyle was totally sure that cartman would come unprepared, because he hates anything homework-like, and he ususally prefers improvising.

he was wrong, though, as cartman has been preparing. he entered the classroom with a small stack of papers with his reasoning on them, he was smiling brightly and joking, and kyle for the first time felt insecure about his skills. he felt rather nervous as he knew that cartman’s charisma and the ability to tell lies in the blink of his eye made kyle look worse in a debate, but he still hoped the teacher had some common sense and wouldn’t let cartman blind them with his confident smiles and fake politeness.

but the nervous anxious feeling in kyle’s chest wouldn’t go away, so when cartman started speaking, kyle couldn’t just stay quiet, sighing irritatedly when cartman said things like “violence is bad”. as kyle knew damn well that’s not what cartman actually thought.

so when the debate was coming to its end and cartman was giving another hypocritical speech, kyle just couldn’t be silent anymore, interrupting cartman with his new counter arguments (and adding some insults as well). cartman, of course, lost his temper too, and the constructive discussion instantly became a heated bickering. teachers tried to stop it but when kyle and cartman are fighting literally nothing can distract them.

cartman: Look, capitalism is just the natural way of things. It's the perfect system, without it everything would fall apart!

kyle: How can you be sooo blind and ignorant to everything?! Capitalism breeds inequality, it's the reason behind a lot of problems in our society, you just don't know it because you haven't experienced all the struggles, you fat privileged fuck!

cartman: Oh, I’m privileged?? Well, you’re just a whiny jew who can't handle the truth. You're just jealous your greedy ass can't make money yourself!

kyle: Shut up, Cartman, I’m warning you!

after a few antisemitic-fatphobic-homophobic slurs they were both kicked out and banned from entering the club again.

they both seemed disappointed and annoyed by it, but cartman had a smug smirk on his face, feeling proud of making kyle mad.

they wouldn’t stop their fight though, arguing all the way back home, without being pressured or watched, and kyle caught himself thinking that arguing with cartman is pretty, well, addicting and he might actually be enjoying it.

at the end they decided it’s a tie, and for the goodbye cartman says something like “Well, you’re annoying as fuck, but I gotta hand it to you, you’re good at debating. Who even needs that stupid club, anyway?”

and kyle smiles, nodding. “Next week, the same time” he says already walking away from Cartman.

and they meet again, choosing a topic and preparing for the debate by themselves because they don’t need a club to argue with each other.

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1 year ago

I have a headcanon that Kenny has a very loud laugh without his hood. He's the type of guy to actually wheeze, squeak and punch his knees when he's laughing

We know that he has a high-pitched, but very soft voice compared to others. Still, when he laughs in the show, we can clearly hear his laugh, even when he's in a huge crowd. His laugh is loud and shrill

So imagine this, but unhooded. The contrast between his soft voice and annoying (/pos!!) laughter. I like to think he'd sometimes surprise people like that :D

Kinda unrelated, but another headcanon: He unironically giggles when his friends show him memes. He'd type "JDDJJDHDRHDKFZHSHF" in reaspond to a funny meme, and he ACTUALLY laughs like that irl.

(shout out to the clip where he dies out of laughter lol)


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1 year ago

have you ever got that irresistible need to see a certain animatic you’ve created in your head

i’ve just watched “nerdy prudes must die” by starkid and GODDAMN “if i loved you” has such a strong kyman vibe it’s killing me i can’t draw it 😭


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1 year ago

K2 appreciation post. I'm so emotional about them 💔

K2 Appreciation Post. I'm So Emotional About Them 💔
K2 Appreciation Post. I'm So Emotional About Them 💔
K2 Appreciation Post. I'm So Emotional About Them 💔

For me, their relationship is "Kyle supports Kenny, and Kenny supports Kyle".

Out of main four, Kyle is acknowledging and overall appreciating Kenny the most. He's also almost always the first one to consider Kenny's problems and help him with them, like it was in Major Boobage (S12E3), where Kenny was struggling with addiction. Other even more significant example is S14E3, where Mysterion tells others about his

immortality. Even tho it didn't really work after all, Kyles does something that no one did before: He sees Mysterion's reaction, how upset he is, and decides to consider Mysterion's words as true. We can't really tell if he actually did or he pretended to just so he can make Mysterion feel better (still sus), but the truth is: No one has ever tried before. Except for Kyle.

And it's not only Kyle supporting Kenny. Kenny does too. I'd say he doesn't directly participate it Kyle's problems, but I freak out every time when Kenny's trying to comfort Kyle with his words or touches.

K2 Appreciation Post. I'm So Emotional About Them 💔
K2 Appreciation Post. I'm So Emotional About Them 💔

I'm gonna leave this next one without commentary, because they are just so 💔💔

K2 Appreciation Post. I'm So Emotional About Them 💔
K2 Appreciation Post. I'm So Emotional About Them 💔
K2 Appreciation Post. I'm So Emotional About Them 💔
K2 Appreciation Post. I'm So Emotional About Them 💔

The most honorable mention: Jewbilee (S3E9). I'm just. I'm not even gonna talk about how at the start of the episode Kenny was inviting Kyle to watch a meteor show with him, how Kyle was determined to take Kenny with him to Jewbilee ("Maybe you can go with me! Then it won't suck so hard!" KYLE BROFLOVSKI??). But THIS LINE is my absolute favorite. Yes Kyle, he is special. Please, if you love these two as much as I do, rewatch this episode. It's just them, spending time together and some shit happening

K2 Appreciation Post. I'm So Emotional About Them 💔

Lastly, if I talk about the ship specifically, I would like to add how I see their romantic relationships: They probably wouldn't have the "childhood crush" thingy. What I more prefer is, them growing up a bit afar from each other (not literally afar. just. emotionally yk yk), keeping their happy memories, but eventually coming back to each other, as they realize how similar they are to each other and how much comfort and healing they can give each other (I can make a post about this)


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1 year ago

my favorite thing about s11e8 (le petit tourette) is definitely this scene in the very end.

cartman sounds so sincere like he never usually does, and, according to the plot, he wasn’t able to lie or even control his words at that moment. i like to think that all this “i love you man, thank you kyle” is how cartman truly feels about kyle. i mean usually he wouldn’t bother with anything more than a simple “thank you, kyle”. like, it must really mean something if he is so unexpectedly affectionate exactly when he’s unable to control what he’s saying, right?


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1 year ago

you know that jewpacabra episode s16e4? that moment when kyle couldn’t sleep knowing cartman is out there, miserable and probably in danger? so he got up in the middle of the night and went looking for cartman to help him get home and make sure he’s safe and then he even literally tucked him in?

so i was making a parallel and i thought of that one post-covid cartman, broke, unhappy, homeless and pathetic, and kyle who gets home after his meeting with the old friends, and suddenly he can’t sleep, thinking constantly about cartman who had a chance to have a good life but lost it… so he gets up in the middle of the night once again, like in his childhood, and forces cartman to go with him to kyle’s place, making sure he’s safe and warm. he doesn’t know why he did it, but seeing cartman at his worst makes him feel like the things are so… wrong? so his first thought is to help and save and give him hope and…

i want a happy end for them both :(


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1 year ago

Okay I saw the new special and I am FREAKING OUT SO MUCH.

First of all, the hug. DO I EVEN NEED TO MENTION THAT? WE ALL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! This is like the 3rd or 4th time he's hugged Kyle like that and Kyle never moved away or anything. MY HEART EXPLODED AT THAT (not literally i'm fine dw)

Secondly, the fact that no matter what universe Cartman is from... Kyle is still the centre of the attention. Like Panderverse Cartman was still weirdly obsessed with Kyle in the typical Cartman fashion and it was hilarious to watch. It's like he never left... Oh wait-

THIRDLY, THE FUCKING KYLE CEREAL BEING CALLED YUMMY??? I know it's typical food stuff like "ooh this food is so yummy" BUT THE FACT IT WAS KYLE CEREAL MADE IT SO MUCH BETTER SO IM ADDING IT.

Also the fact Panderverse Cartman said they use Sheila's credit card all the time is just hilarious to me, and makes me think normal Cartman does as well. Gotta stay close to the family somehow ya know? 😂

Anyway imma stop ranting now, so uh... Yeah I'm losing my mind from all this new content.

Okay I Saw The New Special And I Am FREAKING OUT SO MUCH.
Okay I Saw The New Special And I Am FREAKING OUT SO MUCH.
Okay I Saw The New Special And I Am FREAKING OUT SO MUCH.

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1 year ago

more creekenny moments if there are any enjoyers

kenny: (Tweeeek, your boyfriend’s being a dick again, tell him to shut the fuck up.)

tweek: It’s our boyfriend, Kenny. Tell him yourself.

kenny: (Omg wait, you wanna do it together?)

tweek: Why do you even ask?

tweek & kenny, in sync, holding hands lovingly: Craig, would you shut the fuck up?

craig, emotionlessly: Fuck you, guys🖕.

clyde next to them, in tears: Romance is alive.


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1 year ago

So me and Vita were discussing our favorite superhero designs in TFBW, and I kinda summarized why I think Mysterion's design is so genius :D

So Me And Vita Were Discussing Our Favorite Superhero Designs In TFBW, And I Kinda Summarized Why I Think
So Me And Vita Were Discussing Our Favorite Superhero Designs In TFBW, And I Kinda Summarized Why I Think

First of all, the role of his design is different from others' – meanwhile you can judge other TFBW designs by how much they fit their characters, it won't work with Mysterion. It's the opposite!

His design is so great by how much he differs from Kenny. To put it more figuratively – its so great by how much it doesn't fit Kenny.

Despite the fact that by 14th season we already know that Mysterion is Kenny, it is his design that allows us still feel the mysterious edgy vibe.

We all know that he was first introduced way before it was revealed that Mysterion is Kenny. And yes, because of the fact how different is Mysterion from Kenny's "vibe", his identity remained a mystery for the viewers too. Also! At the first Raccoon episode (S13E2), it's pretty obvious that Raccoon and Mysterion were conceived as opposites. And it works with their designs too :D Raccoons design is very obvious to the viewer, and I don't mean the look, I mean the appeal – Cartman is Cartman, he doesn't hide his identity (I mean, he's bad at hiding it lol). When Mysterion...Is quite literally the opposite! This is probably more thoughts than actual facts, but I find this parallel soooo cool, and the fact that Raccoon and Mysterion parallel each other in everything.

Summary: I can't say that Mysterion's design is very visually memorable or pretty, but it's the best design at accomplishing its role.

So Me And Vita Were Discussing Our Favorite Superhero Designs In TFBW, And I Kinda Summarized Why I Think
So Me And Vita Were Discussing Our Favorite Superhero Designs In TFBW, And I Kinda Summarized Why I Think

(I love Mysterion sm.......🖤)


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