My Reaction To This. This Is Super Awesome.

Now this... this is very good. 

Egypt in by itself a very fascinating culture and society from start to finish. The overall set up with Set, and Horus, the whole civil war/the Succession War. I am reminded of Assassin’s Creed Origins which I feel could be very useful in such an project. Especially it   Discovery Mode. 

(I try not to spoiler too much of Ragnarok, but no promises.) 

Nephthys’ as Kratos wife and Atreus as Anubis works very well in compared to the Norse duology of Faye/Laufey and Atreus Giant name of Loki. I can honestly see it starting much like 2018/Ragnarok, Set himself showing up at Kratos’ frontdoor, maybe somewhere in Upper Egypt, with some of his men,  wanting for Nephthys to come out, making an sly reference to the ‘Ghost of Sparta’, pushing Kratos’ buttons and starting  the first big boss fight.  

Of course, Nephthys alive and well, and so Kratos is rightfully upset at her secrets and possible nefarious motives of him and their son, which  Nephthys  denies the latter and she was only trying to get away from her former husband/brother before meeting Kratos. It does makes it a interesting dynamic o the whole family together and all the clear tensions and problems of it at the start.

On Atreus on being Anubis, it works very well with him being Loki, but also very different. it odd, Anubis was one of the most important Gods of Egypt, but there few myths about him. Him talking to dead gods like Osiris is a very good plotpoint not unlike the Norse duology. Like going to Duat, or the Field of Reeds. 

Set and Horus as parallels to Old Kratos is also very good.  Horus in particular, even at his worst, wants to Avenged his father Osiris and honor his mother Isis. 

I also see them letting go, which is a big theme in  Ragnarok, which Set, Horus, and Isis all succeed in letting go. (As you said, Isis’ her ambitions, Set his fighting, and Horus his pride.) 

Also given this is Egypt, I can see there being far more Greek influence and tied ins of the original   Greek Era. There a long history between Greece and Egypt. See Kratos and his family forced go to Tahpanhes, Naucratis, Heracleion, or Cyrene (Something he want to avoid at all costs.), and Atreus seeing an fresco, or Temple of the Old Kratos as the God of War, and/or his rampage across Greece, or Greeks fleeing in terror of seeing the older Kratos. 

As for allies, I think Hathor could work as one of the group and one of the most powerful ones. Thoth too as a strictly role of  neutrality at the start of it. Bastet is seeking to place Ra back in power, but not necessarily allied with Set. Or turn thr tables it to ally with Horus.  (Never mind Sekhmet...) Min, the God of Fertility, is one of Horus main allies, possible half brother, or a old lover to Isis as well as Horus own four sons.  The thing about Egypt is the sheer number of Gods, big and minor. 

Set meanwhile has a lot of foreign  gods behind him. (Set the God of foreigners. So see a lot of Near Easterns and Libyans.)  

  Meanwhile, Ra is just chilling on his Solar Barque, that can rival even Olympus. 

I even just loved the idea of Kratos going to get cities of Ancient Egypt that can rival, or even put to shame those of Greece. Thebes and Memphis, the  lost city of Thonis or Amarna,  Luxor,  Abydos,  Hermopolis, the Valley of the Kings, the Giza Plateau and more. 

God of War in Egypt

I kind of wish that the God of War sequel series had taken place in Egypt instead of Midgard. Aside from just loving Egyptian Mythology and it being severely underrated, I really think it could have worked thematically with God of War.

Let me explain.

So, the most famous myth in Egyptian Mythology, and arguably the most important, is the succession crisis between Horus and Set. Basically, Horus is the son of Osiris, the previous King of the Gods, whom Set, Osiris’ brother, murdered and took the throne for his own.

But, it’s not so cut and dry. See, the original King of the Gods was Ra, the creator deity, who was forced out by Isis, mother of Horus and wife of Osiris, and then forced him to name Osiris his heir. Set was Ra’s greatest general and oathsworn warrior, and by all rights should have been king after Ra stepped down. So Horus’ claim isn’t as ironclad as it appears.

So, why does this work?

Because it’s a legitimate divine WAR. A war where no one is clearly in the right or wrong, and both sides have to stand on the strength of their morals, rather than being ruled by a generic fantasy Evil King you need to rebel against.

So, picture this for the God of War sequel series:

Kratos makes his way to Egypt after the fiasco in Greece, and there he meets Nephthys, the sister of Isis and a Goddess of Night, the Dead, and Air. Nephthys is in hiding as she doesn’t want to get involved in the war between her family. She knows who Kratos is, he’s got a reputation, and hides her identity as a Goddess, tending to his wounds. They end up falling in love and having a child together, whom they name Atreus. But Nephthys gives him a different name in secret.

She names him Anubis.

When Atreus is young, the family is thrown into the Succession War when Nephthys’ identity is revealed. This obviously pisses of Kratos because he’s still in his “hates all the Gods” thing and thinks Nephthys used him. But he still loves her, and despite the tension the three of them try to keep themselves together and try to stay alive in the midst of this divine war.

They don’t really like either side of the war, and both occupy a somewhat villainous position in the beginning. Horus is an arrogant jerk and Set is a brutal warrior. Both are meant to be a parallel to Kratos as well, Set having a similar backstory and warrior mindset and Horus emodying the brutal hateful anger at everything that made Kratos destroy the Olympian pantheon.

Basically, Atreus/Anubis in these games would be Kratos’ opposite. He’s gentle and weak where Kratos is brutal and powerful. Atreus’ unique ability is to communicate with the dead, drawing power from them and laying their spirits to rest. It’s this power that makes him indispensable to the war, as he gains the ability to do the same with dead Gods as well, including Osiris.

Ultimately, it’s revealed that Apophis, the Chaos Serpent, has been manipulating both sides this whole time in an effort to throw the world into chaos. Isis finally relents her mbition, Horus unbend his pride, and Set stops fighting.

They end up putting Ra back on the Throne for the coming conflict with Apophis, and the gods recognize Atreus as Anubis, one of their pantheon. Kratos is forced to learn to trust Gods and realize that Ra is not the tyrant Zeus was. He forgives Nephthys for her deception and accepts his son as a God, and they work together against Apophis.

I dunno. I just think it could work.

That’s actually is a wonderful idea. 

The main surviving Greek Gods should be Aphrodite, Apollo, Demeter and Artemis. Hestia  too as you pointed out and maybe Dionysus. Demeter especially would be hell-bent on killing Kratos for killing her daughter on top of everything else. (Despite   Persephone trying to end the whole world along with herself in Chains of Olympus.) She go after Atreus in an heartbeat. 

Apollo and Artemis would be the biggest after Demeter to want Kratos’ head for destroying  the Greek Pantheon and the destruction of Greece itself.  Aphrodite  may not be as lustful as we saw her last. Dionysus drinking away with Egyptian wine. 

Hestia may be the only real one that could want to make peace with Kratos and see her grandnephew in Atreus/Anubis. 

On the flip-side, you may find surviving Spartans who still worships Kratos  as the God of War for better, or for worst.  Even an aged, older version of the Last Spartan, Kratos most loyal mortal follower leading them. 

God of War in Egypt

I kind of wish that the God of War sequel series had taken place in Egypt instead of Midgard. Aside from just loving Egyptian Mythology and it being severely underrated, I really think it could have worked thematically with God of War.

Let me explain.

So, the most famous myth in Egyptian Mythology, and arguably the most important, is the succession crisis between Horus and Set. Basically, Horus is the son of Osiris, the previous King of the Gods, whom Set, Osiris’ brother, murdered and took the throne for his own.

But, it’s not so cut and dry. See, the original King of the Gods was Ra, the creator deity, who was forced out by Isis, mother of Horus and wife of Osiris, and then forced him to name Osiris his heir. Set was Ra’s greatest general and oathsworn warrior, and by all rights should have been king after Ra stepped down. So Horus’ claim isn’t as ironclad as it appears.

So, why does this work?

Because it’s a legitimate divine WAR. A war where no one is clearly in the right or wrong, and both sides have to stand on the strength of their morals, rather than being ruled by a generic fantasy Evil King you need to rebel against.

So, picture this for the God of War sequel series:

Kratos makes his way to Egypt after the fiasco in Greece, and there he meets Nephthys, the sister of Isis and a Goddess of Night, the Dead, and Air. Nephthys is in hiding as she doesn’t want to get involved in the war between her family. She knows who Kratos is, he’s got a reputation, and hides her identity as a Goddess, tending to his wounds. They end up falling in love and having a child together, whom they name Atreus. But Nephthys gives him a different name in secret.

She names him Anubis.

When Atreus is young, the family is thrown into the Succession War when Nephthys’ identity is revealed. This obviously pisses of Kratos because he’s still in his “hates all the Gods” thing and thinks Nephthys used him. But he still loves her, and despite the tension the three of them try to keep themselves together and try to stay alive in the midst of this divine war.

They don’t really like either side of the war, and both occupy a somewhat villainous position in the beginning. Horus is an arrogant jerk and Set is a brutal warrior. Both are meant to be a parallel to Kratos as well, Set having a similar backstory and warrior mindset and Horus emodying the brutal hateful anger at everything that made Kratos destroy the Olympian pantheon.

Basically, Atreus/Anubis in these games would be Kratos’ opposite. He’s gentle and weak where Kratos is brutal and powerful. Atreus’ unique ability is to communicate with the dead, drawing power from them and laying their spirits to rest. It’s this power that makes him indispensable to the war, as he gains the ability to do the same with dead Gods as well, including Osiris.

Ultimately, it’s revealed that Apophis, the Chaos Serpent, has been manipulating both sides this whole time in an effort to throw the world into chaos. Isis finally relents her mbition, Horus unbend his pride, and Set stops fighting.

They end up putting Ra back on the Throne for the coming conflict with Apophis, and the gods recognize Atreus as Anubis, one of their pantheon. Kratos is forced to learn to trust Gods and realize that Ra is not the tyrant Zeus was. He forgives Nephthys for her deception and accepts his son as a God, and they work together against Apophis.

I dunno. I just think it could work.

I also love this as someone who loves Halloween and all that. Never thought Athena as a witch, but let's go with it.

The rest of the cast.

Roland: Former Monster Hunter Knight.

Lilith: Demon, or another witch.

Brick: Weredog.

Mordecai: Another Monster Hunter.

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Wilhelm: Definitely a Frankenstein.

Nisha: Pretty much the same.

Claptrap/Fragtrap: A Automaton.

Timothy: Cursed magic user.

Aurelia: Ice Warlock who can enslave demons and spirits.

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Gaige: Mad Scientist/ Artificer.

Maya: Another witch/demon/Monk.

Axton: Top tier Monster Hunter.

Zer0: DnD Warforged/Possessed Armor

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Amara: Battle Priest/Monk.

Zane Flynt: Illusionist mage and bounty hunter.

FL4K: A Mummy.

Moze: Same.

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Obviously, Jack would be the Devil, or at least one of the big name devils. I could see his end goal being the same, freeing ancient before time monsters from their vaults and all the quests and deals is part of that. Maybe Jack is himself an kinda Vampire'/his Handsome Sorcerer self. If he can bring back Janey back...

And Angel is a actual angel he's sucking the holiness out of.

A alternative idea for Athena is a page from Van Helsing, who is strongly hinted to be a Fallen Angel Gabriel and the one who killed Dracula in 1462. (And the latter came back thanks to a deal with the Devil.) Also he became a werewolf in the final battle and kills Dracula.

i can be ur boo 👻🕯

An exiled witch that lives within the forest, drowned in desolation and acrimony after her former home had been burned down—along with her dearest. Years after her vow to never use dark magic again, the flaming desire to be with her late wife ignites stronger than ever.

She is willing to make thousands of deals with the devil just to bring her back.

Disney in all, but name. 

Well, it’s kind of hard to think of yourself as a duchess when you’re sleeping on a damp floor. But, sure, every lonely girl would hope she’s a princess.

My thoughts on the subject...

The Omnic Crisis ended with the Extinction of Humanity. Or Pyrrhic Victory in the Crisis.

The main POD can be a simple one, killing off Gabrielle Adawe before she could speak to the UN and outline her plans for what should have been Overwatch. Without her, the UN just keeps throwing out more poor solution after the other, which only works once, or twice at best. Everyone is fighting their own war and the Human Race starts to break against Anubis.

At some point the UN itself just collapses on itself as nation after nation is overrun by the Omnics. It is now every man, woman and child for themselves. The US Navy sacrificed itself to save New York City from Anubis, shipping almost the whole population to Cape Canaveral. What was left of the Canadian Armed Forces died at Edmonton, Vivian Chase long rumored to be the very last soldier left before her true fate was found. Portugal and Spain fled to Gibraltar while London was wiped off the map. Doomfist sacrifice himself , carrying a old nuclear warhead on his back and stormed the Nigerian omnium, all that was recover was his namesake fist.

The few strongholds of Mankind was Russia, Sweden, a few others but it was all over. Many would pour what they had left into space travel, seeking the safety of the Moon Lunar Colonies and beyond to Mars. The 'Great Exodus' as many would call it would see as many said tearful goodbyes to those chosen and those left behind, such as Torbjörn Lindholm to his wife and newborn daughter. Some was chosen for their genius minds, like Doctor Siebren de Kuiper and Victoria Naughton, a child Angela Ziegler, Moira O'Deorain, the Heroic Five, among others. Those needed to give Human Kind one more chance.

However, there was still a chance to stop Anubis. Those who should have been Overwatch rallied behind a still living Mina Liao with her own All, or Nothing Plan: Aurora. To share Aurora's sentience with all the Omnics, to free them from Anubis' control. Even at the cost own her own life and having no idea what would happened afterward, the team and survived UN forces had no other choice flying to Nepal as Russia nuked itself out of pure spite and the few few human bastions like the Crusaders in the Alps fell.

In the Last Stand of Overwatch, even as Anubis poured all it forces to stop the humans, but at the cost of all their lives, it worked.

Omnics around the world was freed, free to chose, to think. To act of their own free-will. And many turned on Anubis for what it had done and what it done to them and to the humans. The same for many of the other God programs now freed,, allied with them. In it last stand in Cairo, Anubis and it last loyalists was defeated, even as itself avoided captured.

The Omnic Crisis was over, with the cost being the end of human life on Earth, and the Omnics themselves having free will. Those left had since fled to Mars, not nothing what happened back home.

Following the war, the God Programs and the Omnics would seek to rebuild the world, and to make up for the doomed Human Race, organizing themselves in several nation-like states, the most prominent being the Shambali Monks.

Now, the Omnics now push for the unthinkable: To undo their greatest sin, they plan to bring mankind back to life by way of cloning. To let a new generation of humans to walk the earth once more. The first being the DNA of a newborn killed near the end of the war: Lena Oxton. Humankind will live again, and maybe finally apologize.

However, it is long rumored that not all humans are dead. That at least one, or two still lives. Jack Morrison is without a race, without a nation, without those who he would have called friend.But Soldier 76 still fights...but for what?

Anubis still lives, plots and plans. Now with his new host body, the Canadian once named Sojourn, and it puppets like a cybernetic Olivia Colomar who fights from inside her mind, not seeks to finished what it started.

And on Mars, the Humans there rebuild the lost for a new one: To reclaim Earth.

OW AU: What if the Omnic Crisis ended with the Extinction of Humanity? PT. 1

Overwatch never came to be during the omnic crisis due to AU shenanigans (idk haven't come up with a reason yet). The crisis evolves into a full war one which humanity ultimately lost. Auroras ascension happens much later than in canon but by that time there's really only a few humans left (five to be exact, definitely not enough to form a population). So most omnic become sapient after most humans are gone and they revolt against Anubis which does actually gets destroyed but only sorta.

My personal head cannon is that you can't really kill a god program like anubis as it managed to disperse it's data across the global data-network (i.e what remained of the Internet ) so anubis is still technically around but not in the capacity where it can do actually harm.

So Anubis is gone, humanity is gone and your left with a lot of omics that are still trying to figure out the whole being "alive kinda" deal with the looming knowledge that they've participated in what is essentially genocide. So naturally some of them get guilty and decide undo / make amends for what happened. So the first generation of humans to walk the earth in the past 50 years are brought back (Jurassic park style) from the remains of the dead. In this AU there's only been about three generation of humans since the extinction so there's not a lot of humans quite yet and a lot more omnics since almost all (with the exception of the ones which produced militant types) the omniums are still active albeit under omnic control.

I feel for Set getting dragged into that little Greek family mess with his own problems. On the upside, Apollo is likely the one who helped Set find his old wife in the first place.

On an more serious note, I can easily see Anput being the Angrboda counterpart, as in Egyptian Mythology, she shared a lot of Anubis functions and was his wife. She could be would be the main one trying actively guiding Atreus. (Compared to Nephthys who wants to do the same, but more focus on keeping her son safe, and Kratos who is not happy with any of this, and wanting to avoid the whole war, which his wife would agree at the start, and focus on his own family.)

God of War in Egypt

I kind of wish that the God of War sequel series had taken place in Egypt instead of Midgard. Aside from just loving Egyptian Mythology and it being severely underrated, I really think it could have worked thematically with God of War.

Let me explain.

So, the most famous myth in Egyptian Mythology, and arguably the most important, is the succession crisis between Horus and Set. Basically, Horus is the son of Osiris, the previous King of the Gods, whom Set, Osiris’ brother, murdered and took the throne for his own.

But, it’s not so cut and dry. See, the original King of the Gods was Ra, the creator deity, who was forced out by Isis, mother of Horus and wife of Osiris, and then forced him to name Osiris his heir. Set was Ra’s greatest general and oathsworn warrior, and by all rights should have been king after Ra stepped down. So Horus’ claim isn’t as ironclad as it appears.

So, why does this work?

Because it’s a legitimate divine WAR. A war where no one is clearly in the right or wrong, and both sides have to stand on the strength of their morals, rather than being ruled by a generic fantasy Evil King you need to rebel against.

So, picture this for the God of War sequel series:

Kratos makes his way to Egypt after the fiasco in Greece, and there he meets Nephthys, the sister of Isis and a Goddess of Night, the Dead, and Air. Nephthys is in hiding as she doesn’t want to get involved in the war between her family. She knows who Kratos is, he’s got a reputation, and hides her identity as a Goddess, tending to his wounds. They end up falling in love and having a child together, whom they name Atreus. But Nephthys gives him a different name in secret.

She names him Anubis.

When Atreus is young, the family is thrown into the Succession War when Nephthys’ identity is revealed. This obviously pisses of Kratos because he’s still in his “hates all the Gods” thing and thinks Nephthys used him. But he still loves her, and despite the tension the three of them try to keep themselves together and try to stay alive in the midst of this divine war.

They don’t really like either side of the war, and both occupy a somewhat villainous position in the beginning. Horus is an arrogant jerk and Set is a brutal warrior. Both are meant to be a parallel to Kratos as well, Set having a similar backstory and warrior mindset and Horus emodying the brutal hateful anger at everything that made Kratos destroy the Olympian pantheon.

Basically, Atreus/Anubis in these games would be Kratos’ opposite. He’s gentle and weak where Kratos is brutal and powerful. Atreus’ unique ability is to communicate with the dead, drawing power from them and laying their spirits to rest. It’s this power that makes him indispensable to the war, as he gains the ability to do the same with dead Gods as well, including Osiris.

Ultimately, it’s revealed that Apophis, the Chaos Serpent, has been manipulating both sides this whole time in an effort to throw the world into chaos. Isis finally relents her mbition, Horus unbend his pride, and Set stops fighting.

They end up putting Ra back on the Throne for the coming conflict with Apophis, and the gods recognize Atreus as Anubis, one of their pantheon. Kratos is forced to learn to trust Gods and realize that Ra is not the tyrant Zeus was. He forgives Nephthys for her deception and accepts his son as a God, and they work together against Apophis.

I dunno. I just think it could work.

I see Penguin. 

Pandaria or horrified elf face, you decide

I love the idea of Calliope and Atreus putting his half-sister back together. Never mind learning more about Old Kratos and what exactly happened in Greece (IE: Kratos being tricked by Ares to kill his wife and child.) leading to a big fallout between father and son.

My ideas for the set up and more.

Opening.

Any story in my mind could start out with the first war against Apophis, Ra and the other first Gods looking out from the Benben before fighting in the waters, allowing the player to post at max level. (Think if you could play as Zeus fighting the Titans.)

It switch to Old Kratos in an isolated oasis with his family. Maybe near Kharga Oasis, or the Bahariya Oasis.

Some of Gods and where their stand in the Civil War.

Geb and Nut: Titan like beings and the parents of Osiris, Isis, Set, and Nephthys. They have no role in the Civil War itself.

Thoth: A close ally to Isis and the closest thing Horus had to a father after Osiris' death.

Bastet: Horus agasint her sister.

Sekhmet: Set due to her loyalty to Ra.

Ptah: Horus due to the murder of Osiris.

Montu: One of Set's best generals.

Sobek: At the moment a wild card god.

Hathor: Neutral and trying to break a peace.

A lot of gods and goddess are still either still attempts neutrality, or roles takes them beyond the war itself. Like Neith and others. Some like Amun...no one seen him in like forever. Some early allies of Kratos could be Amenhotep, son of Hapu, Ash, Imhotep.

Aten in my mind could be say a rogue god who fell from grace after his power play failed with Akhenaten and his followers as a secondly theart.

You can still tied in some stuff from Norse Era, like a lot of gods talked about Tyr, and how they gave him back his arm after losing it to Garm. Or even mentioned of the 'Hebrews and their one god' and no one likes talking about it. Or Kratos being called 'a Sea Man' as a reference to the Sea People.

Osiris and Set: Even with how he came to power, Osiris was a great king and Pharaoh, who tired to make peace with his brother, but between Isis' manipulations, and Set's bitterness failed. When war did break out, Osiris attempted again to make peace. No one knows what just happened, but Set did cut his brother down accidental. This drove many into Horus and Isis camp.

i was thinking about calliope

Of course not canon thing (i have not enough time for good research and im lazy)

I dont like some sweeet concepts of her, i wanna see her feral and insane cuz there's a lot of shit

I just found your page, but I am loving what I am seeing I won't lie. Also playing through the Legendary Collection.

Let's be real, Borderlands 3 was a total botched job with none of the writers from 2, or Pre-Sequel carrying over and failure to follow up on everything they was building up too. The total lack of Athena, as well as Aurelia is just some of the many problems with it.

That said, I do love the irony of New Tales showing Athena to be the head of some major company on the same level of Atlas, Maliwan, and Jakobs lines up just with your art. The same for Athena helped with Jack rise to power later takes control of Hyperion alongside her wife.

I do like the idea of Theia being a planet of constant earthquakes and just like the idea of landmasses and mountains at random. I can see a lot of wildlife having armor-like skin and super shape claws and talons to move through rock and soil. The same for like big bears like monsters and big cats like caracals, Maybe also giant redwood trees that helps keep the ground together with roots that everywhere.

Theia's nice parts look like Northern California, the rest between Death Valley, Mustafar, and the Rockies.

Yeah, that and just how hated and loathed the company has become, they're got a big bunker/fortress mindset going on. Almost Dwarf like.

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Selene: Maybe it one big supply ship/smaller space station, always in Helios stations shadow or something like that.

Eos: A giant manufacturing sea ship sounds like a lot of fun and something a little more old school in the Sci-Fi setting.

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I do like the idea of Athena's real name and the fact the forsaken it, but I respect wanting to cut herself off from her painful past. The people who both know her real name and are still alive can be counted on one hand. (With Janey it was one of the big movements of their early relationship.)

Also her surname of Hoplite is a nice if on the nose. (Something Janey loves making jokes about.)

I do like how Athena's belief in redemption being the biggest driving force of taking over, while Janey has a field day.

The Voice of Hyperion: This goes with below, but maybe she was recover from the wreck of Helios and traded hands a few times before reaching Theia. She becomes Athena and Janey biggest backer in secret before showing herself. (Think Tales Loader Bot becoming the Masked Kidnapper to learn what happened. Or even Angel in 1 and 2. ) She has no want to rule Hyperion, but wants Athena to do it because she so good at killing her enemies.

I also love the idea of AI!Jack comeback and acting as this devil on Athena's shoulder before she puts him in a gun and shots him to the nearest planet. Kinda reminds me of Wiping the Slate, which Jack has you get the head of the Meriff statue and sending it to Pandora on a rocket.

I would add in say Aurelia Hammerlock, also done wrong by 3, and poor Timothy Lawrence. Maybe even Gaige, still on the run from the Holloway family and not used great by Gearbox. (Another OC is a Truxican gunslinger.)

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Janey as a Eternal makes a lot of sense, born and raised on Elpis, lived through the Crackening. Yeah, her being one makes sense and would be fun to see.

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Hmm...

Athena's team still being alive (Maybe they ditch and the BL1 Vault Hunters killed their seconds in commands.) and kidnapping Athena and blowing up her and Janey home is pretty dramatic. Even going as far to cut her ring finger off is super sad. (Athena caring far more about the ring than how a missing finger would affect her fighting). Using that, in my mind, they both wanting the old Athena back, and being paid by one of the Hyperion factions to bring her in to use. Maybe the Watcher, maybe the Voice of Hyperion gives Janey the lead to chase after them, events lead them to both crash on Theia.

The reformed Hyperion is under attack, by both Old Hyperion/Jack Loyalists and a group of smaller corporations hoping to bring down and take over the Titan. Athena, Janey and their allies all in the middle of it all (Backed by the Voice/secret backer.), and have no choice, but to play a role in the battle that leads them taking over Hyperion and finishing the Battle of Theia. All of it is a lead up to the War the Watcher warned about.

I will say I like the idea of Janey having such extreme attachment issues after what she been through and now suddenly her life with Athena is stolen away would lead her being very vicious. Beware the nice ones indeed and in this case a furious gay Aussie. Heck, I like the idea of her hating anything that looks like a kraggon. I hate kraggons as much as I hate fighting skags.

I just would love to explore this idea more and I love Athnea/Janey a lot myself.

I really love your art and I especially love the Borderlands stuff. In particular the Hyperion Rebirth AU. I would love to see more or even just explore the idea. Like just how Athena took over, how she did it with Janey and Fiona, they're relationship, Janey's hand, their status in the Borderlands and much more.

If your open to it I do have certain ideas for it.

Like Hyperion falling into what amounts to a civil war with Jack's death, how badly he ran it, and all the money and resources he sunk into Pandora on top of Helios crashing Planetside. Athena and Janey are dragged into one side and Fiona by a another on the company planet of Theia. (The wife of Hyperion and Goddess of sight and brilliance along with gold, silver and gems with their brilliance and value). All three meet once again and start to work together to win control over Hyperion themselves.

oh my god hi!!!! tysm for the ask i never expected anyone to ask me about this old au <3

side note btw that i apparently decided to exclude Fiona from this au 🥲 she’ll likely have an appearance other places but won’t have any direct connections to Hyperion

under the cut is a very unorganized set of pictures + explanations of what i had in mind for Hyperion’s Rebirth:

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ORIGINS

to start, i just want to mention how this au came to be.

it was mostly fun and games tbh, where i was in an era between playing BL3 and BLTPS constantly. although i never used them, i found it ironic that in BL3, the Hyperion weapons had shields extremely similar to Athena’s shield.

since i was SUPER disappointed that Athena didn’t even at least have a mention in an ECHO, and i was SUPER deprived of content of her, i decided to make a FUN, NON-CANON ALTHOUGH HEAVILY LORE-BASED, COMPLETELY SELF-INDULGENT AU where Athena had taken over Hyperion just bc she wanted to 😇 starting this project in 2021, i would work on this on and off for my own enjoyment

flashforward only one year later—

………..hashtag goals 🤟🏼. never worked on it for a while even before ntftbl was announced unfortunately 💔

HYPERION ITSELF

you were very spot on with the concept of Hyperion being on the planet Theia, i was super confused seeing it bc i never remembered sharing anything about this 😭😭

i wanted Hyperion to be SUPER heavily reinforced, because of how widely loathed the company is, its history, and because of the overall environment of Theia. every few hours, the surface shifts from entire slabs of the floor, taken from the idea of plate tectonics.

i was also gonna work on the unique fauna, just like how Pandora has skags and Eden-6 has jabbers !! i had only given it caracals since they’re my favorite animal :,3

blands LOVES their greek myth motifs so i wanted to apply that here also

a common trend with the corporations was that each tend to have some kind of second base. i used Selene and Eos, since they were also the children of Theia and Hyperion (Helios isn’t present since it crashed obv).

i never had any ideas for Selene, but an idea i had for EOS was that it was an underwater ship.

CHARACTERS

THIS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MOST!!!

a very specific headcanon i have for Athena is that it isn’t her real name. she was very young at the time she was taken into Atlas, where they had actually given the assassins different names. her real name is Gayle Alvarez, to which she rejects as symbolism to how she’s letting go over her past after all these years, accepting who she is now. (she gave herself that last name “Hoplite” tho LMAO)

^^ this all comes from that fact that i was VERY petty over the fact that her sister, Jess, should’ve been named Minerva. it makes more sense to me idk

ANYWAYS this just describes Athena and Janey’s positions in Hyperion just a little bit. Athena is obviously the CEO and Janey has taken position to where she had designed almost everything.

in terms of the third point, i had actually wanted to make the Voice of Hyperion to be a prominent character in here also!! i didn’t get too far with her unfortunately 💔

FUN FACT i was actually also gonna bring HoloJack as a character concept, although he’s just stuck in an ECHO device. i was thinking that in order to run Hyperion, Athena would need the advice of an ex-CEO. they both only agree to an exchange of management tips for a new body. Athena obviously flanks out after getting Hyperion into a suitable condition, then stuffing the ai into a submachine gun and launching it towards the furthest planet 🤔 it was a funny concept but i dropped it after a while

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on to something more specific, i do wanna mention this art piece, which ties into another one of my headcanons.

Janey was born on Elpis, being present before and after the Crackening. as it occurred, she had been exposed to whatever unstable eridium had managed to leak through, all without her knowledge—she barely remembers anything of the sort happening

TO SUMMARIZE, Janey is like the Lost Legion Eternals, specifically, a Phasewalker!!!! from the game, the LLEs only ascend once reaching a near-death situation, which explains why Janey never figured it out. the closest she did was when she and her ex gf were mauled by Flamey, where her Phasewalking activated and she managed to get away.

STORY

there is no story, sorry. 😓🤕

the closest i have are unofficial concepts, since i had literally almost zero experience and knowledge in world building.

the main idea i had focused on was something to do with Athena’s old Atlas squad, the Omega Assassins. from some, currently undecided decision, Vulcana, Hera, Minerva, Ceresia, and Helicon found themselves alive, even after supposed elimination from the BL1 Vault Hunters. despite her betrayal, they wanted Athena back, and would do anything to prevent her from settling away.

ALSO, another idea was that after the Omega Assassins found out that Athena was married/engaged, they had cut off her ring finger. this explains why i drew her wearing her rings on a chain near her chest.

below is an extra character development attempt which i had named “scene where janey plays the guitar”

this takes place moments after the assassins kidnap Athena and destroy their home for, again, some undecided reason 😭 i wanted to study Janey’s devotion towards a happy life, since i would also think of her having extreme attachment issues. she’s typically the optimistic character that sees the good through any situation, so i wanted to try to see how she would face against her everything being taken away from her again.

i also gave Janey a resentment of anything that resembles a kraggon, no matter how friendly☝🏼

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i wish i had worked on this au so much more than what i shared. i was extremely passionate about it and i kinda still am!! even with how half-assed most of the lore is with blands, i still absolutely DEVOUR any little bit of canon Athena content available.

a COMPLETE story of Hyperion’s Rebirth is unfortunately unlikely now, especially with how it’s heavily implied to be. CANON now 😰😰. i would love to work on it again, but i just don’t really see a reason to 💔

tysmm for the ask again, i appreciate it a lot!! i rambled a bit too much but i wouldn’t mind talking much more about the little ideas i have ^_^ 💐

I will say I am curious on how the story of Chaotic Swap would look like game to game. Like how Sonic Adventure 2 would look like with Blaze and Rouge in Sonic and Shadow places, or even afterward with Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog (Rouge suffering from memory loss), among others.

As for Vanilla, it seem like the obvious choice to make Cream into the Sage to Vanilla's Eggman as you said Eggman himself has become more fatherly.

I am very curious to see Team Blaze, how they came to be, and more of how Blaze as the Sonic would look like on top of Team Dark and the Vanilla.

I really love your Chaos Swap. I think you are creating a a fun setting with some creative fun with the cast. My favorite is Team Dark. Shadow as the serious agent of G.U.N who plays it very close to his chest, Rouge as the Ultimate Life Form who watched far too many Spy movies, Omega as Eggman. Big Shadouge fan, so I love their relationship here. Shadow always being there for Rouge following a nightmare, or a moment of depression, and for her part, Rouge can only flirt her poor bat soul. I like to picture E.G.G playing matchmaker whenever they go to the New Babylon Casino, or one of Shadow's bars.

The rest of them are both wild and fun as well. Vanilla as Doctor Eggman is something I never would have thought of, but I do like Vector as Agent Stone.

This Tails puts even his Sonic Prime self Nines to shame and I guess he is taking Doctor Starline place here. It hard to see Amy like this, but even some of her Canon self is still there and I love this thing between her and Metal!Sonic.

Looking at the other places and mentions, I guess Blaze is the Sonic. Would that mean Silver is her Tails?

I love to see more of this world. Who else do you have plan for the Chaos Swap? Or even more stuff for Team Dark because I feel they're pretty central to this whole thing from what I seen.

Such questions warm my soul, I am glad that people like my ideas. As for Blaze, yes, she will take Sonic's place. I've considered a lot of options, and as for me, Blaze is ideally suited for this role. (Although I even considered Knuckles for Sonic's place) Silver— I have an idea about his role, he will take the place of Amy Rose. Tails' place is taken by Marin. As for Vannila, because of the family motives of both characters, it seemed interesting to me to choose Vanilla. Recently, Eggman has been developing towards a father-daughter relationship. Yes, the dark team will be central to my au. For it was my first command that I did this to this au. As for any spoilers about future work, there will be a Team of Blazes (Blaze as Sonic, Lien—Da as Knuckles and Marin as Tails). New art with the Dark Team and the Vannila Empire.