Soo... This Probably Wont Get Any Attention But I Dont Want It To Get Lost Between All The Other Ideas

i find the dehumanization of makoto to be so fascinating especially when compared to the dehumanization of junko

bc they both get reduced to the ideal they represent (hope and despair) only that for junko it happens after her death, which is what happens to martyrs. she becomes this symbol of despair for which people like monaca and the remnants strive for, specifically after she dies. her death is what cements her as this symbol

but for makoto, it happens whilst he's alive. he has to deal with the weight of being a symbol of hope, the weight of a world that desperately needs healing from the tragedy. he has to do that! he isn't given junko's luxury of being dead. he's alive and has to deal with the pain it inflicts on his deteriorating mental state

The Post-Tragedy Horrors of Despair Time

Hello everyone, Mod Bubbles here!

This Halloween, I decided to do something a little different. Rather than a dedicated post or song parody, I've decided to share a worldbuilding analysis. A pretty fortuitous one, since we've recently completed Chapter 2 of Despair Time.

I'm sure it's no exaggeration to say that DT is a pretty dark fangan, especially within its own context. I wouldn't say it's as grimdark and nihilistic as some people are convinced it is, but there's some elements to it that I feel are worth analyzing going forward.

See, it's been established that DT is set within the Hope's Peak continuity. This would mean that the canon games sans V3 (and if you want to have fun with it, other fangans like the Another series) have all happened here.

According to a Q&A, DT is set around 70-80 years after the end of the Tragedy, so if you wanted to estimate based on in-universe dates (such as Makoto's Hope's Peak brochure saying 2010 in the earliest version of the game but 2014 in a re-release), that would put it sometime around 2080 to the mid-2090s. Veronika backs this up in Chapter 2, when she mentions the Tragedy happened "almost a century ago."

Why do I bring all this up? Because if you looked at DT, you'd probably never guess it was that deep in the future. I know I didn't at first. And this is all by design, but it goes beyond simple cosmetic details. Allow me to explain to you why this is probably the darkest timeline that could've happened after Class 78's victory over Ultimate Despair.

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Modern Stagnancy

So if we look at the obvious, the world of DT looks pretty much identical to our own, which should be a good thing. When you consider that this is set after The Biggest, Most Awful, Most Tragic Event in Human History- an event that saw societal collapse, wars happen for the sake of destruction, massive pollution, rampant murder, and countless killing games- then it almost seems utopian.

Cities have long since been rebuilt, the skies are clear, there are functional trains, movies, celebrities, schools, music, art, Ted-Talks, the internet, all the trappings of normality. And that's really the problem.

Once the recovery efforts were underway, the goal of those in power was to rebuild things exactly as they used to be. Bear in mind, the world looks like our modern day, yet this is set deep into the late 21st century. In that context, the world almost seems stunted in its growth or even that it's regressed, given that CDs and DVDs are used rather than USBs or digital downloads.

Not only that, but this extends to societal attitudes as well. Nico was the victim of bullying over their status as an enby by everyone who knew, including their own father. It's almost the 22nd century and anti-LGBTQ bigotry like this still exists.

In that context, it feels less like the world is recovering and more that it's been stuck in its pre-Tragedy status quo, right down to continuing the Ultimates program that contributed to The Tragedy in the first place. And who would be motivated to do that?

2. Hope's Peak And Their Kin Are Stronger Than Ever

Probably one of the most contentious aspects of DR3's ending is that, after everything the people in charge of it were responsible for- exploiting their students, covering up crimes, human experimentation- Hope's Peak Academy was rebuilt by the survivors, now with Makoto as headmaster.

Now, one could make the argument that Makoto is a better example of hope and thus better suited to lead the school to follow its stated ideals than the Steering Committee ever was. That very well may be true, but as they also proved, nobody stays in charge forever. And now, because of his decision, Hope's Peak isn't contained to Japan.

There now exist Hope's Peak branches in every major country on Earth, with two in the United States. Teruko and co. are students of the East Coast Division's 27th class, meaning that one opened almost thirty years ago. This would also mean that Japan's Hope's Peak would have seen over 150 classes since its inception.

I bring all this up because, as has been made very clear by canon, Hope's Peak is a terrible place even in concept. When you remove the idyllic aspect of fostering talent and guaranteeing its students are set for life, the truth is that ultimates are stunted in their development. They're only encouraged to excel in their particular field, whether they really want to or not.

In addition, Hope's Peak has always quietly held this belief that only people with talent hold any worth; those without talent are just "ticks" who leech off the success of their betters. Characters like Byakuya and Nagito echo those very same sentiments, this extreme elitism that encourages people to view the "99%" as inherently inferior.

Even if you wanted to say Makoto managed to undo that idea, can we really say this divide would never come up again? No matter how many years pass or how many divisions of Hope's Peak are set up across the world? That seems really far-fetched to me.

Consider Min's bonus video. As she explains, she was never scouted by the school. Instead, America's Hope's Peak announced something called the Ultimate Contest for Eminent Students, where eligible high school students would be allowed to take a test, the best of whom would be admitted to the school when they graduated. The catch is that they had 12 years to prepare. Min, who was only 5 at the time, wasn't initially going to participate, but then the founder of a company called XF-Ture Tech approached her family- who was quite poor- and wanted to sponsor her in exchange for her participation.

She spent her entire life preparing for that test. And when she passed, she realized it was all really just an experiment to create their ideal version of the Ultimate Student. She even doubted that she was the best in terms of raw score, just that she met their desired expectations by cutting out everything else in her life for that test.

It also extends beyond just Hope's Peak itself. Those with power and influence now hold a strangle hold over the most vulnerable people out there, as we can see with the Lacroix family.

Rose wanted to help her family out of their financial limitations using her painting skills and her photographic memory, which lead to her becoming an art forger. However, at 15, she was found out and her family faced tens of millions in fines. This would've been the end, but then they were bailed out by a billionaire named Richard Spurling, founder of the Spurling Foundation. In exchange for clearing her charges, Rose had to sign a contract that meant she doesn't own the rights to anything she paints.

She hates what her life has become, where she can only ever really paint things at the whims of the Foundation because it was the only way her family could survive that mountain of debt. The exploitation there is undeniable.

No matter where you look, there's still exploitation and experiment abound with the school, corporations and the wealthy. And if you think the Spurling Foundation sounds bad here, they're implied to be responsible for something much worse.

Which is also brings us to Xander. See, there's a curious detail when we first meet him in the prologue:

And I agree. Xander being the Ultimate Rebel really doesn't fit him, as he's better described as the "Ultimate Revolutionary." Except there's no chance Hope's Peak would call him that, instead paying lip service to the idea in a digestible format to still support the status quo.

Xander is an activist who works to oppose corruption, but the ones who benefit from corruption wouldn't want him to flaunt that. It's a subtle but very clever detail that shows those in power still maintain a hold even over their beloved Ultimates.

They probably had no issue throwing the obviously corrupt under the bus to save their own hides, and raised Xander up with a quasi-supportive title. It gives them a chance to look like they're supporting what he's doing while still tying an element of a "rebellious child" to his image with the name.

Had Xander survived, he had a good reason to want to bring them down, especially the Spurlings.

3. Illness and Poverty

Xander's bonus video clued us in on what I believe is one of the most important parts of DT's continuity: the fate of the town of Chariton, implied to be where he lived. It seemed to be a small town, home to a couple hundred or a couple thousand people, where the only hospital for miles was "dinky, understaffed" and barely able to handle a minor flu outbreak. They were completely unprepared for what became known as the Chariton Incident.

When he was around 14, the town was hit by a disease that caused those infected to decay from the outside in; their limbs would stop working before their organs did, meaning they would just lay there and feel themselves slowly dying. So many died that nobody was left to move the bodies, so they were left where they fell, rotting in the summer heat.

The cause of this outbreak? A contaminated river that served as the town's water source. Chariton was an impoverished community, where people had no money to treat their water, get medicine from a nearby city or to even move out. It's also implied, based on Xander's anger, that Duke Spurling was partially responsible and that he got off the hook, which may be what drove Xander to become the Ultimate Rebel. Especially when you consider he's the only surviving member of his family.

Duke Spurling is, as the named implies and Dev has confirmed, the younger brother of Richard Spurling. The money and influence needed to get his brother off the hook is the very same that has the Lacroix family under his thumb.

So as we can see, Chariton was a major event in DT's canon. Not only does it showcase corruption, it also showcases understated but still prominent problems in the post-Tragedy U.S. If you pay attention, you'll also notice Teruko, Min, and Rose mention poverty playing a role in their lives.

As we can see, poverty plays a major role in their lives, and that extends beyond a personal level. Chariton's poverty is why the incident happened at all, and a big reason is because it's also an example of a medical desert.

"Medical desert" is a term used to describe regions whose population has inadequate access to healthcare. This can be all healthcare in general or in specialties such as dental care or pharmaceuticals. This is an especially prominent problem in rural areas, but it can affect urban ones too.

If that sounds implausible to you, today it's believed that around 30 million Americans- over 1% of the population- live over an hour from a hospital. Can you imagine how bad the problem is in a world after The Tragedy? All the damage to infrastructure, established institutions, the economy, and the population? I doubt Chariton was the first to see something this bad.

Ace's execution gives us more clues. In the Death By Illness section, there are several newspaper clippings on the wall, most of which are readable. One flashes on screen saying "Unexplained Illness Kills Thousands," which I believe is another reference to Chariton (why else would it flash on screen?), but there's more as well:

"More people are dying of cancer than ever before"

"Flu season claims thousands of lives"

"Falling rates of survival for hospitalized patients"

"Antibiotic-resistant infections a growing threat in this hospital"

One is harder to read, but I believe it mentions Chronic Kidney Disease being tied to an early death

Now, the interesting thing is that most of these are modern headlines, and they can be pretty misleading. The cancer one is actually based on the fact that more people are living longer lives, thus are reaching ages where they develop cancer due to their cell infrastructure breaking down naturally. It doesn't mean there's more cancer cases overall across all ages.

The only one that's not true is the falling rates one. Which suggests that not only was it Chariton, but healthcare infrastructure in general after the Tragedy seems to be a mess.

See, I was assuming that these articles are identical to what we see today. But it's also possible that the cancer one is now literally true, and it could be because The Tragedy was rife with this kind of horror. We know that terrorism, coups and wars happened for no reason other than to spread despair across the world.

Could you imagine how many nuclear, chemical, biological and radiological weapons were used? How many diseases and hazardous materials were seeded into the environment? If it's unsafe to drink tap water after a serious hurricane or earthquake, how bad is the problem when contamination is the goal?

And this doesn't even touch on how disturbingly easy it would be to spread long-term illnesses such as HIV or CJD in contaminated food and medical supplies. Some diseases have latency periods that last decades, meaning they could still be killing people even by the time DRDT is set.

Antibiotic resistance is also a very real and serious problem. Even today, some strains have become immune to even the strongest antibiotics available. This has given rise to Vancomycin-Resistant Enterococci or VREs, which are immune to basically every medication we can throw at them.

Now, it's still possible to deal with them, such as with naturally antimicrobial metals or experimental treatments such as CRISPR and Phage Therapy, but in a world that saw such a massive hit to everything? I'm certain antibiotic-resistance bacteria have become much more serious, potentially resulting in epidemics over the years.

And when these things happen, it's always the poor who suffer the most.

4. Lethal Repetition

Now we come to the most obvious example, something highlighted by the same reveal that DT is set nearly a century into the future:

Veronika, who provided us with information on the effects the Tragedy still has, apparently has never heard about The Killing School Life.

Now, it's important to keep in mind that most of the Killing Games in DR were pretty secluded and motivated. SDR2 was only broadcast to Future Foundation with the goal to allow Junko to escape into the real world, for example. However, DR1's Killing School Life was broadcast globally as a means to break humanity's hope by showing the Ultimates slaughtering each other. Instead, Makoto and co. managed to reinvigorate the world's hope and played a pivotal role in ending the Tragedy.

...And yet Veronika apparently hasn't heard any of it.

Now, there's two possibilities here, neither of which are good:

One is that the Mastermind has removed their knowledge of previous killing games, specifically. Now, I actually consider this an unlikely explanation because, not only does Teruko seem to vaguely remember the Killing School Life happened, but what's the goal in doing so for the participants?

The canon games all had solid reasons why the other masterminds erased the participants' memories: the revelation that they'd been killing their friends, the fact that their past identities were supposed to be undone to save them, even the fact that they weren't even who they were supposed to be in V3.

But what's the purpose of suppressing the memories of the Killing School Life in the participants themselves? Especially since this game is also apparently being broadcast to the outside world, although we only have MonoTV's word on that. Is it to undermine everything the survivors achieved or to get the participants not to consider the same strategies?

The other, more plausible explanation to me is that the mastermind isn't the one who erased their memories. The outside world did.

It's possible that, in the decades since the Tragedy and the drive to return things to the status quo, knowledge of the Killing School Life has been suppressed. It would be so easy to blame Makoto's decision to rebuild the school, but it's just as plausible that his attempts to genuinely reform the school were undone over the years.

Corporations and those that came after had a vested reason to improve their own reputations, and why would they allow their connection to the Tragedy to remain public knowledge? The entire thing began as a revolution of lower classes against the rich before it became a whirlwind of mindless violence.

So what does this mean for DT? This is more hypothesizing on my part, but I'd say this could tell us a lot about the potential motivations for this very killing game. Could it be someone trying to remind the world about this event and how we got here? Is it more retribution against the wealthy? Is it someone who was inspired by Junko to slaughter her friends? Or is it something else entirely? And what role does Teruko have if someone involved is so hellbent on trying to kill her?

For now, we can only speculate. But I can tell you that, based on what we've seen here, DT is probably the darkest future we could've gotten out of the canon series.

Happy Halloween, everyone!

Top 5 Warriors of Hope

From my least to most favourite, here they are!

5. Monaca Towa

As the main antagonist of the game, I’m obviously bound to dislike her. But there wasn’t really anything redeeming about her. She was manipulative and calculating, and had tantrums whenever things didn’t go her way. I didn’t warm to her at all, unlike the others.That said, in DR3 Future Arc, she was totally different and I did start liking her there. But I’m basing this on Ultra Despair Girls, so bottom of the list she goes.

4. Nagisa Shingetsu

Unlike Monaca, I don’t actively dislike Nagisa. He’s just really forgettable. Despite surviving the longest of all the Warriors (except Monaca), I can’t remember anything much about him.

3. Jataro Kemuri

Poor Jataro, always getting put down by the others. I have a soft spot for him, but it’s not much more than that. In the game I found him rather irritating a lot of the time, and I’m not sure it was intended.

2. Kotoko Utsugi 

She’s generally the upbeat, funny one in the group, and I liked that. She also seems to be the most focused on what they are doing, constantly reminding the others about the game they are playing. She was good.

1. Masaru Daimon

I saw something the other day where someone had said Masaru was their least favourite DR character. And I just can’t agree with that. He’s the most personable of the Warriors, and I didn’t mind having him around. I think a little bit of that was where he was the first of the Warriors you fought, and that meant he was the one that made you think “whoa hold on, these kids aren’t the monsters I initially thought”. The scene where he stops and beats his arm for trembling..that was pretty uncomfortable (in a game where everything was uncomfortable) and my heart really went out to him.

-Alice

Munakata: You know nothing, you're just a naive child who thinks the world can be saved by positivity.

Well that might work in your game, but not in the real world.

Makoto: chained on the ground Your pathetic.

Munakata: What did you say?!

Makoto: You laughs, glares at him you know nothing. You think that I don't know, that words aren't enough to change people?

You think that I don't know that positivity can't fix everything?

Munakata: Than why do you drone on and on about it? If you truly believe your words are hollow, than why pretend to be such a fool?

Makoto: God your stupid. What I said was that I know words aren't enough. But they're a start, their a step and a necessary one.

If anyone's the hypocrite, it's you, Mr rehabilitating murderers is wrong but I'm gonna kill people that don't agree with me.

Munakata: You little-

Makoto: No? You go on and on about how dangerous it would be if despair disguised itself under a flag of hope.

And yet here you stand like your own Remnant of despair.

Munakata: How dare you! Kicks him, hard

Makoto: laughs And you say I'm the child. How did you get such a high up job?

I mean you talk tough but you're just a washed up graduate who's clings onto his high school glory days.

Munakata: seething How dare you!

Makoto: Oh I dare. I think you got the job to work at the overseas Hope's Peak, because you're so desperate to reignite that spark because you've found nothing else fulfilling in your life.

And than the world fell but you got lucky, because finally everything was yours. You could be the big bad hero you always wanted to be.

Munakata: You call this a victory?

Makoto: For you? Other than being vice chairman and Chisa, sounds like your dream.

Munakata: Don't you dare speak her name!

Makoto: Yeah, my bad I'm sorry. You know, I was willing to hear you out for her.

I've lost people, know how hard greif is especially in a place like this. And she wanted me to hear you out, and I thought sure okay.

Munakata: That sounds like her.

Makoto: But man, I've looked into the eyes of those infected with despair.

And I've still found shreds of humanity in their souls, you are as soulless as it gets. And I watched Junko kill her own sister without a second thought.

Munakata: scoffs

Makoto: Junko twisted the Remnants from the people they were. The kind, good loving people they were.

But no one did that to you, you are your truest self. There was nothing to regain because nothing was lost.

Munakata: Is that your long poetic way of calling me a monster? How original.

Makoto: No you're worse. Hell at least Junko knew she was being awful. You say the most awful things and pretend it's just.

Munakata: The truth is always hard to digest. You should know that better than anyone. But you insist on hiding behind your hollow words.

Makoto: They aren't hollow. Sure I talk, a lot. But I make my words mean things, I fill what could have been hollow because I believe in the power they hold.

Munakata: You do have a lot of influence in your words. But that doesn't change that they won't fix things.

Makoto: I know it's not going to fix everything! But if they can get people to act, if they can change someone's opinion. That makes them mean something.

What you're proposing would destroy what's on the surface but change won't happen if you won't touch the root of the issue.

Munakata: And what of it? It will only spread. I do what has to be done. I use my words and I put them into action.

Makoto: The difference is I'm proposing people care about each other and you're trying to justify mass murder.

That's the difference between you and me, you take the easy route.

Munakata: Easy?! You dare call this easy?!

Makoto: Violence is easy, you can hurt anyone without raising a hand. You know what's hard? Healing.

Going day in and day out in a hopeless world trying to convince people life's worth living.

You watched the game... How many times did I try to bring people together? How many times did I try to talk to someone who would later be a murderer?

A tear falls down his cheek.

I will carry their deaths for the rest of my life. I will be kind in a world that hates that because someone has to.

I gave my weakness to everyone not because I don't know the danger but because I do.

Because I know if one person, just one comes forward it can persuade others to do so too.

Munakata: Scoffs What you've done is make yourself a bigger target.

Makoto: Gets up, got free ages ago and stands tall It's easy to kill the people who wronged you. What's hard is knowing all they've done, and forgiving them anyway.

I smile and it hurts more than anything and yet I do it because it makes people feel at ease. And if that's make me weak? Than so be it.

Munakata: So what, you'll forgive me for all of this?

Makoto: Yeah, because even now I think there's still hope in you.

Munakata: That kind of optimism will get you killed one day.

Makoto: It's gotten me this far. Sad smile And apart from my friends, it's all I've got anyway walks away, pauses And for what it's worth, I'm sorry for your loss. Walks away

There was never a person named Tsumugi Shirogane.

Following the successful implementation of the Neo World Program against the Remnants of Despair, Future Foundation learned all of the wrong lessons. They tasked Alter Ego with incorporating Killing Game simulations into the Neo World rehabilitation protocols.

It was decided that Ryota Mitarai's ideas were valid, he simply went too far in attempting to brainwash the world. Not mind control, but a global broadcast to remind everyone around the world of Hope's supremacy? Future Foundation felt that would be a good antidote to the Despair that had reigned unchecked after the Tragedy.

So began the age of Ultimate Hope. Each year, fifteen students infested by despair would be selected and entered into the Neo World Program. Alter Ego would concoct a fictional scenario for them to undergo, appropriating the imagery of Monokuma and Junko Enoshima. Corrupting them as they once corrupted the Neo World Program.

All under the guidance of a subordinate program to Alter Ego, taking the role of Chiaki Nanami for each season; Someone who would monitor the students from within, report back to Alter Ego, and keep the game moving. Sometimes male, sometimes female, blonde, brunette, tall, short. A new name and new identity, a different guise for each new season that could be changed as easily as flicking a switch.

The events within the program would then be broadcast globally, so all the world could watch with bated breath as Hope triumphs over Despair again and again and again. Season after season, year after year, students living out a twisted mockery of Junko's games as a perpetual reminder of Despair's futility.

With little regard for the long-term effects that being used like this would have on the selected children's psyches. Traumatizing vulnerable children for someone's idea of the greater good.

Junko’s great and all but for me Hopes Peak Academy is the main antagonist of Danganronpa.

You’ve got the whole oh being part of the elite is actually really fucking stressful. And wow I wish I could do other things but my worth is entirely tied to this one thing I do.

Like we saw with Leon.

Then you’ve got them being a dick to everyone else. Like it’s one thing for them to be like oh you don’t have a talent our one school recognises as important?

I guess you’re nothing then.

But then they take it even further by creating the Reserve course. Ah yes let us give these peasants the privilege of being near us while also reminding them they’re nothing compared to us.

But also you know human experimentation.

It really hit home watching Danganronpa 3 and realising oh..any of these kids could’ve become Izuru Kamakura.

It’s just that they picked Hajime. Oh they frame it as a choice but no that kids fate was already decided the moment he was enrolled.

It would’ve been interesting if that ever got out. That Izuru Kamakura, was a Reserve Course student. That this beacon of terror was someone they all view as inherently worthless for being talentless.

Despite the fact that metric is one that only Hopes Peak uses and cares about.

I don’t blame any of the Reserve Course for wanting to burn the place down. The way they were instantly vilified the second they decided to rebel against the school.

Not only did they cover up the murder of a student but if this got out too…Yikes.

Honestly had the tragedy been less…colossal I genuinely believe Hopes Peak would be relieved by it. Sure they get some bad press but it’s one student, maybe one class.

In the grand scheme of things it changes nothing and they can all be discredited it.

Hell I can absolutely imagine a concept where Hopes Peak reveals Izuru Kamakura’s real identity and paints a narrative about this disillusioned Reserve Course student lost to jealously.

And despite the aid of the prestigious academy trying to help him, he turned into a monster. Even going so far as to bastardise our glorious founder with his name.

I can see them trying to wipe their hands clean of everything. Also I refuse to believe Jin Kirigiri was some unknowing man caught in the middle of this.

When he was the one running the place. And frankly I prefer the concept that he absolutely knew but tried to make amends with saving his remaining students.

With saving his daughter.

And being killed after refusing to give them up. Hoping that maybe just maybe he would be able to atone for the monsters he helped to create.

Junko’s also a monster that’s a fact but none of what she did would’ve happened if not for Hopes Peak.

And unfortunately only one of them got destroyed.

Favs from each game

Yoooo can I get uhhhh unnecessary crossover? Been listening to the Adventure Time soundtrack in the height on my My Hero Academia craze.

Anyways Finn’s quirk means that he is Deeply Irresponsible About Personal Safety. He’s still an excellent fighter and has a wonderful hero heart and boy does he go through arms. PB is his support technician largely because she likes him enough to squeeze it in between her other projects. Marceline has a wicked strong quirk but mainly is interested in her band and her girlfriend. Jake struggles with the desire to be a hero and the desire to do petty crimes.

I got a whole au cookin but like that’s just who I am folks 💪🏻

you know what i really would’ve liked to see in dr3?

the remnants facing life-altering consequences for their actions. even though they were brainwashed, they still committed atrocities yet faced no real backlash that affects their life.

sonia being stripped of her rank as princess while her country bans her from her former kingdom. she tries to reason with them initially because she’s so stunned and resorts to her commanding princess self, but no one acknowledges her. they threaten her and almost arrest her, but she escapes. she no longer has a home or a family.

gundam being mistrusted by animals. he tries communing with them, but they refuse them. they lash out, biting him and rejecting him. they remember how he used them for evil.

saionji and ibuki being blacklisted in dancing/musical performances. former fans who felt the agony of their “concerts” recognize them and charge at them, trying to turn them in for their crimes. they no longer can dance or sing without retribution.

koizumi’s pictures being seen as despairing propaganda. her former work means nothing. all that matters to the world are her evil photos. no one will accept her work even when she tries to photograph “hopeful” things.

hanamura’s family has been blacklisted in the food/catering industry. if his siblings are alive, they want nothing to do with hanamura. it’s implied he may have killed his dear mother, so his brother and sister despise hanamura even though they left the family. like sonia, hanamura no longer has a family.

kuzuryuu and pekoyama have no clan left. the kuzuryuus could be dead or they decided to give the leadership to someone else if they came to their senses. they deny help to kuzuryuu and pekoyama, blaming them for their family’s decline. they only have each other.

that’s what i REALLY wanted to see. of course, hope arc is about “hope” and is seem as a “perfect happy ending,” which, considering the “gray” endings for sdr2 and drae, seems pathetic in comparison. these are people who, despite being brainwashed, committed terrible crimes. they shouldn’t be left off the hook so easily even if they endured their own private killing game. they say they will shoulder the burden of despair, but they go off hand-in-hand without consequences for their crimes. they pretend to be remnants, but they don’t face any backlash for what they did to thousands of millions of people.

Bakudeku vs togachako