Icollectcoolrocksalot - Roger

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A long ass rant abt my Roger being autistic headcannon cuz i haven't seen anyone talk about the idea of him being autistic besides 1 person (who i mention and quote on this post) 💔

Remember that not all autistic people act the way he does or show the same symptoms autism is a wide spectrum that can affect all sorts of people and can make people act in many different ways. Some autistic people are loud and outgoing, and some may be quiet and anxious. Please also don't use this to say you might have autism this is just how i see his character and shouldn't be used to diagnose yourself or others i am not a professional and this is just my opinion so take this with a grain of salt!! You also don't have to agree with me. This is just my version of the character!

Roger is described to be more on the quiet side and doesn't really seem to communicate with the other boys much. He is even described to be 'forgettable' in the book for example when him, Jack, and Ralph go to check out the 'beast'/parachuter in chapter 7 'Shadows and tall trees' when it says "Roger spoke; they jumped, for they had forgotten him." And is also described as "uncommunicative by nature" and "impervious" in the same chapter. Throughout the book, he is described as quiet, uncommunative, furtive, and even intimidating. Which yes, not everyone who is that way is autistic it is pretty common for autistic people to come off that way. He comes off as someone who presents more monotone, secretive, and seems to avoid attention as much as possible.

Roger, in my opinion, also seems to not be the best at communicating and understanding social cues. He doesn't engage in the same behavior as the rest of the boys, and through the book, his behavior is displayed differently in a noticeable way if that makes sense. He just doesn't really seem to notice (or at least care) that he acts/comes off differently then they do.

Another thing is that he's said to have an insensitivity to him and has a strong focus on his thoughts and opinions on things, which is another common trait in people with autism

His lack of empathy for others is another thing to note. A lot of people with autism can often be seen as apathetic or rude because they don't fully understand how others feel or how some of their actions could make a person feel. While his lack of empathy could be a sign of some other disorder, i do think it could at least partially be related to this.

Roger's need to control his environment and the way he seems to listen to whoevers 'in charge' of him so easily could also be related to the fact that a lot of autistic people desire a feeling of structure and predictability. He listens to what he's told to do and usually tends to fly under the radar because of it. He's shown to have some sort of need for control but at the same time doesn't seem to have any want or need to actually be cheif in any way because he pefers to have that sense of structure and have intrusions on what to do.

I have only seen 1 person talk about Roger possibly being autistic/nerodivergent on a reddit post from the uer "Nitekatgames2023" that popped up on google when i was trying to find more input on this idea and i find their veiw on Rogers actions possibly not being to outwardly hurt others but rather deal with the stress of possibly being nerodivergent to be really interesting here's a bit of what was said on that post: "Roger excels at being Jack Merridew’s enforcer because of his willingness and ability to follow authority figures. “Pure evil” characters are seen breaking social rules or disregarding people/ laws from very young ages and their incapacity for adjusting behavior when committing “evil acts” (crimes, misbehavior, physical altercations). Roger can function in a well-functioning society as seen by his previous post as choirboy and his initial interactions with the other boys. There is agreement in numerous analyses of “Lord of the Flies” that Roger has been taught to mask his impulses but I will argue that his impulses are not to directly harm others but rather a need to cope with stressful situations due to a potential neurodivergence" i think this look on his character is pretty interesting and i like their veiw on this a lot.

Heres some more stuff the person said on the post that i found really interesting that i want to share "Roger mirrors whatever authority is dominant. At first, he is obedient to rules from English society because that is how he has been conditioned to behave. This transfers to following Ralph hence his helpful demeanor, and then transitions once again to Jack where he becomes his most brutal. Roger has a tendency to say or do what the other boys may say they want to do or what they may be collectively thinking such as suggesting the vote or “quieting” Piggy's arguments or being at the front of the pig hunt or at the front of the mob that kills Simon." As well as (sorry this quote from the post is quite long) "Golding puts the least amount of perspective on Roger and most of that perspective boils down to, “thinking about irresponsible authority” or “time to be the most evil person possible” but the deriving pleasure part is an interesting aspect. This is due to people’s reactions to Roger’s actions. In most stories, the brutal second in command thrives off of loudness, but not Roger. His violent acts seem to disrupt loud commotions especially. In the first gathering with everyone, Roger’s interruption of holding a vote causes the boys to settle down. This trend continues with Roger and another choirboy disrupting the loud playing of the littluns on the beach building their sandcastles. Finally, during the loud confrontation with Piggy and the rest of the tribal boys on Castle Rock (where the stone material is most likely echoing all the noise and the waves are loudly crashing underneath), Roger sends a boulder down to kill Piggy which quiets everyone. Some people with neurodivergence have aversions to unpleasant stimuli such as loud noises. This can make people with neurodivergences feel uncomfortable, irritable, or on edge. Extreme reactions to these can manifest in self or other destructive ways (may be called meltdowns or something else). Of course, this does not excuse criminal or immoral behavior but it could explain part of Roger’s drastic reactions to these events."

That's all i have to say for now about this, i love this headcannon for him so much. If anyone wants to talk about this or of you have any other commentary on Roger's character i am completely open to talking eother in the comments or in dms don't be afraid of annoying me because as you can see i am absolutely obsessed with pucking all the characters actions and behaviors apart 💔💔

lotf headcanon that roger’s parents are convinced their son is the nicest boy on earth he comes home from school and says ‘i had a great day today mummy i learnt so much in mathematics and geography and my choir practice is going swimmingly” when in reality him and jack threw paninis and rocks at year 4s and played bogies in the back of the classroom

I DID IT AGAIN.

ROGERRRRRRR 🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

3rd times the charm? 4th? I think it’s my 3rd time…

Wips/pfp version of this after the cut! (Please give me credit if you end up using it)⬇️

This fanart makes me cackle every time I see it like why is bro TWEAKING 😭⁉️

Transmasc choosing a hairstyle

jesus mustve spread his arms so many times to embrace others before he spread them to embrace death on the cross and i think about that a lot

"Always dark in color" and they make Roger the whitest bitch alive