(SPOILER) I DID SOMETHING BAD I AM SO SORRY (x)
#he spolied the ending and we weren’t listening
Eh, I do think dark Rey is a vision, too, but those people telling you to shut up about it, are just rude.
Thank you for defending my honor, Anon. Usually I just delete hostile asks, and I honestly probably should have done the same with those, but I felt the need to draw a line I guess.
I’ve been really put off by the infighting I’ve noticed creep into the fandom and it’s frankly ridiculous. If you don’t like a blog or a post, don’t interact. PERIOD. Debating a point is fine if you’re being civil about it, but don’t go onto other people’s blogs and harass them. It’s seriously just anti behavior within the fandom itself (as if Reylo’s needed that).
First of all, I do believe they are training. He is not shooting and is easy to see that if he comes close to hit her, there’s enough space to lay down and let the ship fly above her. Rey also turns her back to Kylo, once she know he is not going to shoot her.
But, I don’t understand two things:
1: Why she ignites the lightsaber? It does make it look like she is going to attack.
2: Why would they practice a flip over a ship? It doesn’t sound very useful. I even thought that the exercise was “Feel it with your instincts, don’t use your eyes”, but then I saw the whole scene had different backgrounds, like they had been doing this many times, SO YES, they are training how to flip above ships.
So now my theory is: Kylo ren was attacked first by palpatine’s army and he knows their attack is invisible, OR, they’re getting ready to battle in somewhere with really bad view (i like that one most). They are training this especifically attack technique.
Daisy talked on a interview about filming this scene! She said the sunlight was very blinding and it was winding a lot! Daisy said that she was focusing in not squeeze her eyes, cause she didn’t wanted it to look like she was sighting the ship!!! (HER WORDS, i’m not deducing it!)
(I searched all my computer and cell phone historic for the interview, so i could put it here, but I’ve and found NOTHING. I think they removed it!. If someone finds it, please, send me! It was after the panel in the SWCC)
At this scene, we can already see Kylo’s Tie-Silencer!
It gets even more clear…
But her eyes keep wide open! She can’t focus the ship because she is not seeing it!
THEN, Kylo starts flying low! Now Rey can see the dust, and also the noise is louder! That’s how she knows it’s time to ignite the lightsaber!
Rey turns, getting ready. She won’t see the right time to turn, so she does it very early as a precaution.
This right here. This is not looking, this is hearing!
The noise gets very loud. Time to run! Light saber ON, because she is training how to ATTACK on this situation.
And finally, the flip! (enjoy this gif to see how easy she could lay on the floor if he was trying to hit her).
And this heavy breath at the beggining? She just tried to do it right before. She’s CATCHING her breath while he approachs once more, until she get it right.
(Tried my best with the english)
I have an idea guys
What if -
And just hear me out -
WHAT IF
We just stop discussing the leaks
Kylo Ren endures years of being manipulated, mentally/physically abused, tormented, and used by Snoke - never standing up for himself. By accepting this treatment, it’s obvious how little he values his own life. He believes this is his fate.
Rey endures 10 minutes of being teased and tortured by Snoke, which Kylo has probably experienced since day one of the dark side and kills him without hesitation. He knew what he had to do.
Had he killed Snoke himself years ago, it would show that Kylo believed he had something worth living for - but he didn’t.
What does this tell us?
Not only does Kylo Ren value Rey’s life more than his own, but he feels that she gives his life meaning.
Here’s why.
Killing Snoke not only saves Rey but also saves himself. Rey made him feel like he was worth saving.
“You’re not alone.”
“Neither are you.”
He proceeds to ask her to join him, a desperate plea to rule the galaxy with the girl who began the transformation of Kylo Ren into Ben Solo. Let’s break down the dialogue:
“It’s time to let old things die.”
It’s time for Ben to let go of Kylo, it’s time for Rey to let go of the past.
“Snoke, Skywalker,”
The black and white rules their mentors have taught them,
“the Sith, the Jedi,”
He realizes he can’t fully devote himself to being a Jedi because although he feels the call to the light, the anger he feels from striking down his father will always be with him. Luke says it himself. (”…anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.” - Yoda)
“the Rebels,”
With the Sith and the Jedi gone, the Rebels will have nothing to rebel against.
“Let it all die. Rey, I want you to join me.”
Let’s both forget the past and how it has defined us up to this point, and together start a new path with clean slates.
“We can rule together and bring a new order to the galaxy.”
He never states how they will rule. To rule something can also mean to govern something, which could create a regulation and peace in the galaxy. Just because he uses the word rule does not mean his intentions were total domination.
(Rey:) “Don’t do this Ben. Please, don’t go this way.”
Like how I described above, she hears him and goes straight to the dark (just like she did with Luke’s first lesson on the force).
(Kylo:) “No, no, you’re still holding on. Let go! Do you want to know the truth about your parents, or have you always known? You’ve just hidden it away…”
This can be applied to both sides - Kylo has always known the truth about his parents and how they come from the light (”You may try, but you cannot deny the truth that is your family.” - Tekka, The Force Awakens). Rey has always known the truth about her parents and how they were no one. Both characters hid the truth away. So when he says this to her, it’s just another thing that relates them, almost as if he’s saying it to himself as well.
We all know what happens after that. “You’re nothing, but not to me” brings us back to the point of this post. Rey isn’t nothing to him because she brings meaning and value to his existence.
Rey may come from nothing, but to Kylo? She is everything.
Hello! I’ve just recently gotten into ASOUE, and I was wondering if I could get a clear answer from you. Sorry if you’ve answered this before. So there’s 100% without a doubt fact that Olaf finds Violet sexually attractive? A lot of people seem to have differing opinions. I ask because the only thing I have to go off on right now is Olaf’s comments about Violet being ‘pretty,’ and his constant staring at her. Thank you for taking the time to read what I had to say. Take care of yourself!
First of all, welcome to the family! Hopefully you’re loving the books/show as much as they deserve to be loved :)
Now, pardon my essay but I’m gonna try to summarize everything into an overly long answer at the best of my abilities, but it’s not gonna be easy.
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It is very true - and very obvious - that Olaf finds Violet attractive.
More than that, as you said, he is SEXUALLY attracted to her, and to the idea of her ( I’ll elaborate on that later ).
I’ll divide it in actions he performs, just to make it easier to read for the both of us. I will also note when there are differences between book Olaf and show Olaf, even if those are few.
Ever since the door swings open, show Olaf stares at Violet when he talks. About anything. You can see it during their house tour, and then later, when Klaus asks how can they purchase anything without money and he blatantly ignores him and throws the little bag of money at Violet, who is carrying a baby and isn’t in the condition of catching it. You can see it after “It’s The Count” is performed, and during dinner.
Speaking of their house tour, notice this : when he shows them the kitchen, he straight up glares in her direction while he says “I expect you to keep everything gleamingly clean”. That’s just one of the many ways he expresses how ( low ) he thinks of her. As a servant, and nothing more.
After they discover that Sunny’s locked in a cage, Olaf goes on a tangent about the metaphor of a stubborn mule : the mule will walk closer to the carrot because it’s food, and further from the stick because it doesn’t want to feel pain. This is obviously referring to Violet, and stubborn is one word he always describes her with ( Notice : In the Reptile Room, when he “greets” the children again ).Now, look at his eyes when he says that the mule will move towards the carrot because “it wants the reward of food”
straight to Violet. That’s pretty telling of what she is, in his mind. Food. Figuratively, of course.
Now, take a look at how he stares at her during these three events.
First, after he tried to convince her to marry him, he stares creepily at her lips and kind of checks her out.
Second, after she speaks to Justice Strauss, he almost looks disgusted by her audacity to talk back.
Finally, after he thinks she’s now his property, he keeps looking at her intensely and with a snigger plastered on his face, and he doesn’t even bat eyes.
These all show different emotions he feels towards her, and how they connect to one root point : he does not care for her consent, for her will, for her pleasure. He only wants to marvel AT her, to think he owns her, eitheras a daughter or as a wife ( interchangeable for him, I might add ) :
“You may not be my wife, but you are still my daughter, and…” ( The Bad Beginning ). I’ll go back on this quote later.
As you noticed, too, he looks at her often. Pretty much in every episode. I don’t need to go down too much on this, it is quite obvious.
This is where Olaf shines, with everyone but especially with Violet.The way he headbutts into her conversations during the books and the way he touches, strokes, gets too close to her is continuous. And she tries to scatter away every time.
During the dinner, when the bald man turns around, looks at her and exclaims “You’re a pretty little one”, Olaf butts into the conversation like a hurricane and scolds her. He acts very smugly and weirdly possessive towards her in the entirety of the series, but it’s particularly noticeable in the first book/first two episodes.
When he tries to convince Justice Strauss to join The Marvelous Marriage play, he keeps poking Violet, patting her hair and her face, under her breast and, when Klaus stands up and says “Justice Strauss, he’s up to something”, hegrabs her by the waist and pulls her closer to him. Creepy.
Then there’s the iconic “I’ll touch whatever I want” with the hand on the shoulder. He also speaks directly to Klaus, in that instance, almost as if he was daring him, as to say “I’ll snatch your fortune and your sister away from you”.I feel like he feels an inferiority complex towards Klaus but that’s a whole other matter that I won’t dive into.
In the Reptile Room, The Hostile Hospital, The Ersatz Elevator, The Carnivorous Carnival and The Grim Grotto, he leans down to her close enough that she can smell his breath, and says something equally creepy.
Of course, we can only see four of those on screen - for now - and The Hostile Hospital one is shocking. If you’ve seen it, you know he practically kisses her.
In The Hostile Hospital, he’s the one who catches her when they kidnap her, he’s the one to change her into her medical gown ( according to Violet in The Carnivorous Carnival book ) and Violet retrieves her own ribbon out of hispants pockets, in the same book.
In the Bad Beginning, in the books, he touches Violet’s face inappropriately when asking her to star in his play. Actually, when forcing her to star in his play.“Count Olaf reached out one of his spidery hands and stroked Violet on the chin, looking deep in her eyes. ‘You will’ he said ‘participate in this theatrical performance.”.
In The Reptile Room, he makes a non subtle threat and caresses her legs with his knife - the most common phallic metaphor there is.In The Hostile Hospital part 2, after calling her Sleeping Beauty ( which gets raped by the Prince in the original tale ), he slowly caresses her forehead and throat.
He’s way too damn close.
You may think all these are nonsense, all small things that really don’t matter but put them together with his words and you’ll find yourself shuddering.
In The Bad Beginning, his whole plot consists of him conconcting a plan to steal their inheritance by marrying his 14 year old adoptive daughter, daughter who he keeps referring to as very pretty, both in the cupcake scene andto Klaus “Why in the world would I want to actually marry your sister?’ Count Olaf asked. 'It is true she is very pretty, but a man like myself can acquire any number of beautiful women.” or, when describing the play, “It is about a manwho is very brave and intelligent, played by me. In the finale, he marries the young, beautiful woman he loved[…]”.
There are a bajillion phrases he speaks out, such as “Build the sets? Oh, Heavens no. A pretty girl like you shouldn’t be working backstage” or “You’re such a lovely girl, after the marriage I wouldn’t dispose of you like your brotherand sister”, sentence I have explained in one of my previous asks.
As I said earlier, there’s the ”I’ll touch whatever I want" which heavily implies rape to anyone old enough to understand.There is “You may not be my wife but you are still my daughter, and…” which describes his idea of in loco parentis and his ownership of her, and the fact that he will be free of punishment from the law by doing anything he wantsto her, whether she’s under his control as a child or as a wife.
There is the book-only “Now, if all of you will excuse me, my bride and I need to go home for our wedding night.” which is the equivalent of I’ll touch whatever I want. He’s going home and he’s taking her virginity.
In The Reptile Room, in the show, he grabs her and tells her “I have four tickets with me to Peru. I was going to take you and your siblings because that’s the kind of guardian I am, but I’ll settle for one of you.”. At the end of the episode, his room had only one bed. Pretty self explanatory.
In the Carnivorous Carnival, when the children are hidden in the trunk of his car, he tells his henchpeople that he hopes Violet survived the fire at Heimlich Hospital because “She’s the prettiest”.
In The Grim Grotto, when she tries to stall and wants to tell him where the sugar bowl is, he sneers and says “I’m not going to bargain with an orphan, no matter how pretty she may be.”. Realizing he loses control and gets overpowered by his attraction to her, he attacks her.
Generally, he often addresses her first - or only - in any conversation, and wants to come closer to her more than her siblings.For example, in The Penultimate Peril, when Dewey takes her hand. he orders him to “hand her over” twice. Not her siblings.In The Slippery Slope, he screams “You are dead, you died in the caravan!” only to her.In The Austere Academy, when Nero asks him if the orphans have good enough legs for him, he points at her first.
And so on and on.I could go on forever but this response is already a book.
In regards to what I said about the idea of her turning him on, he never really makes and attempt at doing anything to her ( that is debatable though as I firmly believe he raped her in the Hostile Hospital book, andI have my own thought about it but it is indeed a theory ). He clearly wants to but giving in to his sexual desire towards his enemy would only shift the power between them, and she’s already stronger than him by being unattainable andrejecting him, thing his narcissistic side doesn’t digest at all. He resentes it so much, and you can see the hatred and lust he feels 100% of the time.
Also, if you need a visual representation of Neil’s body language and hard work in showing this, you can watch a video I made a while ago that sums it up. You can turn off the music if it’s too cheesy, but I think it’s a good exampleof how a great actor can make you feel disgusted by small gestures.
And thank you so much for reading this papyrus! Take care yourself!
I think mine is this one. I can’t top it.
a soulmate is a person that won’t complain about any of my music when i put my ipod on shuffle