yeah so the thing is that no one is hating on kaitlyn as a person or as an actress. i hope she does show abby justice.
but the point is that it’s not abby.
neil admitted he wanted to work with kaitlyn regardless so changed the role to accommodate her. that’s not fair. he vehemently defended why he gave abby that physique when the game first launched, and her body alone is so important to who she is as a person, it’s quite literally what her character is built on.
there are plenty of talented actresses who are a few inches taller and not naturally petite that could have fit the role better. they don’t even have to be entirely as muscular as abby but to have zero time in the gym is insane. also saying there aren’t really buff women who are talented is kinda misogynistic but i digress.
neil changed abby’s character to be more digestible to the general public, and conform to hollywood’s beauty standards. that’s the root of the issue. he’s satisfying the incels who have complained for the past 5 years straight, calling her every name in the book for years because they don’t like her body type and they think she looks like a man. strong women are severely underrepresented and her backstory of turning herself into a human weapon was detrimental to her and symbolic. it’s erasure.
as a tlou fan, (SOME of) it’s fan base is genuinely insufferable.
i’ve seen men and women complain and complain about bella ramsey and kaitlyn dever, with no actually valid argument.
now look, does bella ramsey look like ellie? no, not really.
does bella ramsey portray ellie with literally no flaws whatsoever? YES.
it’s okay for you to want someone else to be ellie, it’s okay if you don’t like bella as ellie.
but there’s a difference between that, and being just blatantly disrespectful.
i’ve seen people say bella looks like they have down syndrome, that she’s ugly, and overall people just being disgusting and hateful towards them for absolutely no reason.
that is NOT criticism, that doesn’t have anything to do with her performance as ellie or the show.
that is PURELY you being disrespectful.
and there’s no justification or reason for that kind of behavior.
now onto kaitlyn.
is she buff? no. does she look like abby? no, not really.
will she play abby perfectly just like bella as ellie? i have no idea.
but here’s the thing, there’s not a lot of buff, tall, and intimidating women who can act.
especially ones that conveniently look like abby.
did yall really expect them to cast people with PERFECT looks to the character AND the flawless abilities to play said character? do yall know how rare that is?
so the point is, you can dislike bella as ellie, you can dislike kaitlyn as abby (since NO ONE is FORCING YOU to watch the show btw) as long as you remain respectful to the actresses.
and the tlou show is literally one of the only good game adaptations to live action EVER but yall still wanna complain.
and as a final side note, most of the men trying to shame bella ramsey’s appearance are just mad they don’t have another version of ellie to sexualize🤷
if you think abby is a stone top i automatically think you’re incompetent or smth because wym
non sexual intimacy!!!! bathing together, washing each other, playing with each other's hair, kissing every inch of their body, writing love letters on their back with your finger, connecting their moles and freckles to create constellations on their skin, running your hands up and down their thighs, ugh just expressing physical love without it having to be about sex!!!!
waiting for my butch knight to save me
Abs, using her charm
The Escape.
Skin textures, armpit hair, and stretch marks.
From a nerdy gym rat standpoint, this is so cool to experience in a video game.
I haven't personally seen anyone mention Abby's stretch marks before, but forgive me if it's already been discussed to death.
Still, as a person with a similar physique, my own arms etched with stretch marks, I'm so stoked about this.
What a killer detail for an already badass woman.
Taking a female character who belongs to a non-majority group of bigger, muscular women in a video game and making her a very skinny person in the TV show adaptation of said video game is problematic and worthy of (respectful) criticism and I’m tired of pretending it’s not. Because the creators of the TV show said they specifically offered the actor who plays this character the part. She even said she didn’t even have to audition in an interview, she was offered the role with no audition for it. No hate to this actor, she’s amazing, she’s out here working, I don’t blame her at all. But they also did not have other actors (or if they did, very few) read for the part.
But I am so sick of people acting like the character’s original physique doesn’t matter. It DOES MATTER. Media has power, and purposefully erasing a part of a character’s physical identity that aligns her with a group of women who are either grossly misrepresented in traditional media or just cut out of it completely IS harmful. And the fact that they used her physicality to market the second game so heavily and then abandon it when the reception wasn’t good for the TV show is SO problematic. Bigger women are not there to simply be movement devices for your plot and aesthetic choices. People who are bigger matter, and having representation of bigger women fucking matters.
crazy thing is i would shut the fuck up RIGHT NOW if someone (abby anderson.) just let me suck on their fingers. (abby anderson.)
need this woman so bad why isn't she real