Ahhh I meant to ask, if you do end up giving thoughts on the leaks, I would LOVE to know your thoughts and this epilogue’s endings for bakugou (obviously!) and ochako as well.. in detail pls hehe
Everyone and their dog apparently wants my thoughts on the chapter, and I have to say I just don't wanna give them in the detail people seem to crave. Look, the chapter is meh. It's just meh. There are some cute things that happen in it and it seems that's at the expense of consistency in the story. They clearly didn't think about the things they were implying hard enough. Oh, Izuku and Ochako just didn't fucking interact for 8 years after high school but NOW Izuku wants to talk more? What about Ochako's school program with children that seems RIGHT UP Izuku's alley? They're both practically pursuing the same thing but apparently never breathe each other's air. Despite not thinking about each other for literal years apparently they're still attracted to each other, which, why? What are they attracted to? They're entirely new people now, they're meeting as adults with quite a few years missing between them? Oh, here's the rankings but also we're gonna give a throwaway line about how they're volatile and useless bUT STILL WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THEM. THEY DON'T MEAN ANYTHING ACTUALLY BUT HERE THEY ARE. Okay let's just imply Himiko is going to be Ochako's voyeur for life.
But worst of all is the weird idea that this is somehow the logical conclusion of the story that came before it. A conclusion should cap off the themes of its story and MAYBE introduce a new question to ponder. The story should LOGICALLY lead to the conclusion. But this conclusion basically turns around and says "Things change when you're an adult. You'll be a totally different person and maybe have new dreams. Except also you may not. Life is normal and boring and dreams sometimes die." What? WHAT????? Where's the theme of service to others? Where's the theme of heroes inspiring the next generation? Why are we implying heroes who are too good at their job will force their job to become unnecessary and die out but then try to prove no wait heroes are still necessary because sometimes people get weird urges to steal cars? What? Whatttt??? So heroes just exist now to be the quirk police basically. This is what all those kids were growing up to be? That's a weird implication after a whole story where the entire adult generation showed a VERY DIFFERENT AND MORE ADMIRABLE BRAND OF HEROISM (except for those that didn't, which was far more interesting than whatever this is). So the future of heroes AND villains is banality? Petty useless shit?
This is why 430 was such a good ending chapter. It DID showcase heroism in a mundane setting that actually had meaning and impact and inspiration. It made Izuku's adult life look like a fulfillment of his dream just in a new way.
In 431, Katsuki Bakugo is the only major character that shows a connection to the story that came before. He's the only one that still dreams of heroism and unity and inspiration, and he still thinks about who Izuku is deep down and resolves to save him from his stupidity AND SUCCESSFULLY DOES IT. He's the only one that resembles the heroic ideal that All Might supposedly instilled in everyone's hearts. MAYBE Ochako does too, but it's for a brief flash and then suddenly we're back on the mundane train (pun not intended) in a bad way.
And Shouto. Shouto can stay because he's the only character who PROPERLY introduces the question of "more to a hero than heroism" in the ending as a conclusion that introduces a new question, but it just...doesn't lead anywhere. I could see a potential path for that to have led the chapter somewhere meaningful, but it didn't.
So I maintain Katsuki is standing there watching on as the only character thinking about how the fuck to inspire people to be heroes again.
In summary, if I consider this the actual conclusion to the whole story, it's ass. I don't want it. It's useless and almost condescending. It's like the chapter is shaming me. How dare I enjoy the 430 chapters that came before, how dare I dream and feel inspired, how dare I expect anything of the concept of "hero" introduced by All Might and then the next one introduced by Izuku? But if I consider it an extra DLC bonus omake what-if didn't-think-too-hard-about-this-I'm-just-spitballing-and-having-fun-or-whatever side comic, fine, whatever, the mundane banality it wants to be succeeds, because I'm bored and I'm ignoring it. I'll have fun with it in fanfic maybe if I feel like it, but I ain't tying this shit into the themes of the actual MHA story. It doesn't belong there.
If that all sounds like more than you bargained for with your ask, it's because I received 30 other asks all wanting me to expand on these points, and so I decided to consolidate them all here. It's just too many asks for me to respond to individually. If I don't answer your ask, random anon reading this, it's because I consider your ask answered well enough.
Oh? Please, Madam
What Izuku rejects is the opportunity to be Katsuki's SIDEKICK. He doesn't reject being a hero or competing with Katsuki. He rejects working FOR/UNDER Katsuki. Which is hilarious because Katsuki accepts (apparently multiple times) showing up as a guest lecturer to help out Izuku's class. Katsuki tells Izuku that "If everyone is special, no one is special," which has the potential for SO MUCH DOUBLE MEANING. But what there is no ambiguity about to me is he's basically telling Izuku "Hey, notice this. I'm treating you special. You're special to me. NOTICE."
It's also implied that Izuku sees Katsuki more regularly than he sees most others from their class, which is emphasized by the previous chapter when Aizawa complains to him about Katsuki's behavior in public affecting his ranking. Katsuki basically tells Izuku he needs to start thinking about himself more, and he also ends their final interaction with a "See ya [later]." Katsuki is NOT talking about Ochako, but Izuku takes some of his advice as the impetus for going to talk to Ochako (specifically they just wanna talk more after the dinner since the dinner is now over and they didn't get to talk). So what was Katsuki thinking of? I personally read his "See ya later" as "You'll figure it out, just go handle what you gotta right now and you can catch up to me later."
Hilariously, Izuku calls Katsuki out for being the one to say "If you don't start thinking a little more highly of yourself, you won't notice the things you should." Izuku's response is basically, "Look who's talking." Again, the potential for double meaning here is painfully obvious. He could be referring to SO MANY THINGS and we're meant to infer what that is. WE GET TO GUESS. Izuku could be saying "You did stuff just as bad as what you're saying," or "You're STILL not noticing something, Kacchan."
And Izuku taking inspiration from Katsuki's words to go talk to Ochako is meaningful in another way--IT MEANS IZUKU LISTENED TO HIM. Katsuki is having an influence on Izuku in a way to improve who he is just like Izuku did for him in high school. Izuku takes Katsuki's advice seriously. NO ONE HAS EVER GOTTEN HIM TO UNDERSTAND THIS LESSON BEFORE NOW. It ends with Izuku and Ochako deciding to talk more, but what it shows us is the beginning of Izuku considering himself more. If Izuku follows Katsuki's advice long enough, he'll end up back in the competition with Katsuki just like Katsuki expects him to. That is just as easy of a conclusion to make from the theme of "inevitability" that Shouto gives us (and that Izuku also takes to heart).
This ending implies that inevitably Izuku's gonna catch up again, basically. Things will continue to change. So yeah, we get a beginning where he and Ochako meet up to talk, but it's just a beginning. It's one night of chatting. They're seeing if something's there now (which kind of implies that there wasn't much there before), but it's left open-ended. And I think it's left open-ended what happens with Ochako on purpose because anyone can read how that ends up however they like. You just have to decide as a reader what's "inevitable" for Izuku Midoriya from this point on. Me? I've decided Izuku is taking Katsuki's advice to treat people who mean more to him better. Ochako is just the beginning. Izuku has other people in his life he needs to show love to as well (because that's what this is, Izuku is learning to show people that they're important to him, that he loves them, because saving people doesn't do that--he saves EVERYONE). And then maybe he'll start to see how the people who love him treat him special too, like guest SPECIAL (same kanji) LECTURER KATSUKI BAKUGOU.
tl;dr there is a lot left open to interpretation and it's probably on purpose, read the chapter however you like, just like we did with the last chapter.
...and my interpretation which is the correct one is that Katsuki tells Izuku, "Here let me show you how to love people, damnit!" to give him the character development everyone has been begging for him to have for years, to realize that saving people doesn't mean they're special to him if he's known for saving everyone ever, so like, maybe go show them you care in OTHER ways, Izuku, and also I'll be waiting right here for you to come show you love me you jackass (and he does, he does come show him that)
Solo se que esto...
reminded me of this…
Me recordó a esto...
I DON'T KNOW HOW I DIDN'T SEE IT BEFORE! ┻━┻ミ\(≧ロ≦\)
But if I add this guy
with this beauty
I think it results in this cute boy.
For God's sake…
I think I'd better check the operation… (• ▽ •;)
This guy again...
Add this Beauty...
Results in...
Okay, maybe I'm standing in front of the future BkDk son...I don't know, I just know it's starting to get hot in here... or is it just me? (´⊙ω⊙`)!
I was just rewatching Sk8 the infinity and then I saw Nanjo and suddenly I was like... "This guy looks like Izuku, if Izuku had Kacchan's eyes… wait, what if Nanjo was Katsuki and Izuku's son who was born thanks to the hit of a lucky quirk?" And I had to leave that idea here.
What do you say? Could it be? ╮(. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)╭
The only thing I like about 431 is that Katsuki knows that he must treat Princess Deku as if he were a jewel, transporting him on a comfortable cushion ( ꈍᴗꈍ)
Yes, I said princess, he is the adorable son of the Demon King after all...
Ha? How come Dad For One wasn't revealed? You know what? I don't care! If you have any complaints, talk to the hand (-_- )ノ
Yes, with Izuku's hand ಡ ͜ ʖ ಡ
I actually got stuck with the whole Deku being the Demon King's son thing and that old princess meme thing that I had to take out mine and here it is… ~(つˆДˆ)つ。☆
He is a princess!
Izuku was definitely born from Shoujo and was forced into Shounen. (^~^;)ゞ
They are and always will be the main canon couple! (≧▽≦)
Because 431 is a complete Fuckin CRAP! and an ending of dubious origin!
And If you don't believe me then fight me!
SHITTY EXTRAS!
COME ON, NOT AGAIN!
Please, stop! No more!… you know what? I'm going to pass the canon through the armpits of a donkey because if not I'll end up writing a Bakudekuocha fanfic and although it's seriously something I'm thinking about I don't want to have to do it because I know I'll end up taking Ochako out of the equation, please we're talking about the girl who called Izuku a 'Plain-looking boy'
and Himiko the 'Cutest girl in the whole world' (┛ಸ_ಸ)┛彡┻━┻
I don't see anything 'Plain' about Izu-kun's appearance (ʃƪ^3^)
Stop talking about who the canon couple is, I'm not interested, for me the ending has already happened and although it wasn't very good, let's say I'm staying with Izuku holding Katsuki's hand and both walking together hand in hand towards the sunset
♡(> ਊ <)♡ that was the real ending! the rest is just to shut up the mouths and get rid of the bkdk haters and Izuocha-fans, that's all my opinion, KatsudonCat out, PEACE! (。•̀ᴗ-)✧
Damn! I already wanted to write that fanfic… should I? hehe (^~^;)ゞ
thinking about the kudo family today. I mean I get that you guys love each other and are very famous but why would you abandon your child? He was barely even a teenager when you left him. No wonder he is out there, making flashy deductions, hungry to get some form of attention that is not from his best friend. Maybe he thinks that if he too is a celebrity like his mum and a famous detective like his father, they would love him more. They would visit him more. They would maybe finally stay.
It took Shinichi almost dying for them to return to Japan. Then they kidnap him, make him think he is going to die at the hands of people who tried to kill him earlier. After talking with him, they disappear again. No wonder Shinichi is the way he is right now.
There are many incompetent people unfit to be parents in the DCMK world, but the Kudos are definitely in the Top 3 after the Kurobas who take the cake for being the worst parents ever in the world of DCMK.
Primera publicación.
En mi humilde opinión Gosho está dando patadas de ahogado, seamos honestos el Shinran es un barco que se hundió hace años y es que en realidad ha pasado mucho tiempo desde fue una pareja viable, esos dos no se conocen realmente a pesar de ser amigos de infancia, Shinichi cree todavía que ella lo necesita para protegerla, Ran es una chica muy fuerte y valiente que sabe kárate, ella es muy capaz de protegerse a sí misma y a sus seres queridos pero en el momento en que piensa en Shinichi se vuele sumisa y llorona; por otro lado está Shinichi que ni siquiera confía en ella lo suficiente como para decirle quien es realmente, si verdaderamente confiara en ella le dejaría saber la verdad pero no lo hace, una llamada de atención de Haibara es suficiente para deshacerse de su razonamiento y volver a caer en su conducta de autosacrificio engañandose él mismo sobre que Ran lo necesita y que no puede valerse por si misma, el Shinran es una pareja toxica que debió haber desaparecido hace años y el Shinshi o Coai es mucho peor, Haibara siempre logra manipularlo y aunque también es una chica con carácter y personalidad fuerte y luchadora al encontrarse con la Organización Negra se vuelve completamente una chica miedosa e incapaz de pensar o siquiera moverse que necesita ser salvada literalmente y aunque Gosho deje pistas sobre si a ella le él gusta o solo le agrada sabemos que esos dos juntos nunca pasará.
Lo que Shinichi necesita es a alguien que sepa su secreto y que sienta como un igual no alguien que necesite proteger sino alguien capaz de ayudarlo en su lucha, alguien en quien confíe no solo su secreto si no su vida, alguien que sepa por lo que está pasando y que lo comprenda, sabemos que Shinichi está atrapado como Conan y que siendo un niño no puede ser el mismo, el no puede ser Shinichi frente a Ran y su padre, y no puede ser él mismo tampoco con el tantei-dan en la escuela, está atrapado siendo alguien que no es y eso debe ser agotador, y es ahí donde entra Kaito sea Kid o no, el sabe lo que es ser una persona que no eres, tener que fingir para que nadie más salga herido, y aunque Kaito puede dejar de ser Kid cuando quiera y ser solo Kaito aún sabe lo duro que es tener que fingir y lo comprende.
Entonces sí, es todo, Gosho solo está siendo terco al aferrarse a su pareja principal durante años cegandose a sí mismo ante el hecho de que prácticamente hizo Almas Gemelas a los dos protagonistas masculinos de sus dos creaciones Magic Kaito y Detective Conan desde hace decadas!
I just know… I don't want to see them animate 431, I hope they stick to 430, my desire to see the end of Bnha animated has completely faded (ب_ب)
Some people I know told me that 431 is the perfect ending just because (SUPPOSEDLY) Izuku ended up staying with Ochako, they don't understand that Izuku practically threw away his character growth by turning his back on Katsuki.
I said to them: "What happened to Izuku's dreams then? What happened to the Izuku who told his Kacchan: ‘’All Might was my hero, but you were the one actually in my life!’’ Then Izuku saying 'No' to Katsuki when he asked him to join his agency makes no sense! It's a setback of EPIC proportions!…
That's without forgetting the problems with the drawings themselves, there are several mistakes that we know Horikoshi would never make, like the characteristic face in All Might's signature, Kirishima's hand, the differences in the drawings of the new mecha suit between 430 and 431, and many more things, thinking deeply about it I think Horikoshi only drew one frame of that chapter, one page I would say maybe if I want to be magnanimous enough, but I don't think so!" (눈‸눈)•••
anyway continue: "if people like you are going to say that an ending is good just because of the SUPPOSED pairing, then they don't really know how to appreciate what a good work is or the story behind it and they just like it because it's what they expected to see… people like that shouldn't wave their opinion like it was a flag as if they had won the war because of a simple TINY detail, if you are going to give your opinion, do it yes, but put something behind it to back it up!, as they say in exams: "Put your answer and JUSTIFY IT!". Don't just talk for the sake of talking!, 431 is far from being the perfect ending, 431 doesn't even end with a true declaration of love for the Izuocha, wake up!, if it were then by shaking hands like that I would already be dating you, the PRESUMPTIVE chapter 431 is just the failed attempt to please simple people like you!"
That's what I told them and now those people don't even talk to me anymore ಠ﹏ಠ
If people are going to go crazy over 431 while it's still manga, then I don't want to see how they'll go when they anime that chapter! ತ_ತ
That being said, I definitely don't want to see when they anime the end of Bnha! Because of 431 I realized I'm friendless! (ノT_T)ノ ^┻━┻