I really looking forward to seeing the Twins and Hazel in D5 only because i really want to see the interactions between them. What dynamic do the three of them have? Captain and crewmates? Childhood friends? Cousin like relationship? I am dying to know how hook's relationship with smee impacted their kids' relationships because i see smee as a grandfather figure to the Hook kids.
I am actually looking forward to seeing these two in D5 even if it is different actors. I'm curious to see how they and other villain kids such as Hazel have adjusted to living in Auradon these past few years.
Wonderland has Eight states and one High King or Queen of Wonderland. The Royal family typically has 1-8 children but never more, originally it was six but when a King and Queen had more than Six children they had to create 2 more different territory.
The only hereditary title is Queen or King of Wonderland passed down from Eldest Child to Eldest child. They are the supreme ruler of Wonderland. The other territories are always given to the children of the ruler of Wonderland and the child has the choice between which territory/ title they want first pick goes to the eldest and the youngest has to choose between what is left.
E.G The Queen of Diamond may have a child but the only way that child become ruler of the Diamond territory is if the Queen of Wonderland (QoW) doesn't have 8 children or one of the QoW does not pick the Diamond territory.
When a territory is picked the ruler takes the child under their wing preparing them to rule once they reach age of majority or later (the child's choice), the previous ruler much step or else their entire family ,e.g the diamond family, is executed. They also have to sign a magically binding contract when they first takeover agreeing to one day step down if the time comes.
Some Kingdoms have not been picked in many generations which is what lead to Bridget marrying the Red King (no child of the ruler of Wonderland had wanted that territory in 200 years).
The Ruler of Wonderland rules under their chosen title which is how the QoH is also the QoW, while her father was the King of Clubs.
The Eight Kingdoms are Crims (Red, receives last name Rouge ), The Black Kingdom , I'm looking for a better name (Black, Le Noir ), Marmoreal (White, Ruler receives last name Le Blanc). The Kingdoms of Hearts, Club, Diamonds, Spades and the outlands.
The 'ninth' kingdom is Underland the capital and the seat of the high king or Queen. The other Eight Kingdoms surround Underland in its entirety, Underland is the centre of Wonderland.
In fear of losing red as she lost Quinlynn the QoH kept Red in the capital never allowing her to visit the other Kingdoms like she did when she was a child. Red never taught she had a choice of titles/ Kingdom believes she needs to rule as the QoH.
As the QoH only has 2 children in the original timline when she gets Quinlynn back, the remaining territories are passed down the QoH cousins/siblings lines until they are chosen once more by the main line.
Red never knew she had an older sister, Quinlynn, until she was 15 Yo, a year before she went back in time. The QoH had forbidden Quinlynn's name to be spoken of as it was too painful for her.
One day she overheard the name and that was when she asked her father, The Red King, and he told her the painful truth her sister had been stolen right before the barrier was put up. Red had always felt as if something was missing and knowing she had a sister made things felt as if it finally made sense. In that moment when she was in between Ella and her mother she thought of Quinlynn stolen away from their parents and raise on that horrid isle and she made her choice. Her sister would come home.
She knew her sister returning would mean her loss of status as heir of Wonderland that instead of being the high ruler she'd only ruler over one kingdom but she did not care. She never wanted to be High Queen. It never felt right.
When she returned to wonderland and found her sister as Heir to the Throne, herself training to one day rule of Crims with several older siblings and a younger sister she finally felt happy. This was what her family would have been like if it weren't for that wretched beast.
In the Original timeline Allaria trained Quinlynn in everything she could to one day take her rightful place as Queen of Wonderland and Queen of Spades, she chose her position while on the isle because even though she is trapped as the eldest she has first pick even if she was stolen away. If she was denied her choice the magic and citzens of wonderland would riot.
Okay so everyone is kind of confused about D5. The synopsis says When Wonderland plays host to the Kingdom Cup Games, Red and Chloe must fight to save everyone from an unexpected villain.
People are also disappointed that D5 won't have the Young Villians and that Uma's warning about messing with time has no effect. I currently believe that in D5 Chloe and Red will believe everything is fine and that they managed to get back without changing too much besides some small surprised (like Pink) however near the end when they face this unexpected villain they will realise they messed things up more than they realised and D5 will end with them planning or actively going back in time.
In D6 Red and Chloe will face a serious of choices trying to keep things as close to the original timeline as possible while still saving Cinderella's life. Red will have to deal with the fact that she will possibly be erasing the sister she has gotten to know and care about. In D6 we will discover more about the prank and we will get to see castle coming.
I don't actually mind Hazel's name being Hazel. Do not get me wrong i'd much rather it be something like Asteria or Nerissa or Katherine or Isolde or Calliope or Calanthe but when i first heard we were getting yet another hook kid i was half expecting her name to be Henrietta as Harriet is the female version of Harry and the name Harry is derived from Henry.
Personally i wanted her name to start with C to give CJ a letter buddy. Harry and Harriet both start with H, Cj should have a first name letter buddy as well.
What the hell is this name? Robbie Hood seriously. I cannot take that seriously. That cannot be his full name it has to be a nickname.
I am now head cannoning his full name as Roland Robert Hood or Roland of Locksley/ Sherwood. Ouat had a much better name for Robin's son but then again they did name his daughter Robin as well so...
Also what the hell he has an older brother in the books called Bobby seriously you are telling me Robin and Marian named their kids Bobby and Robbie?
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I love this idea! Having Alice in Wonderland be reversed in the movie is such an interesting concept.
I know it will not happen but alternatively imagine Fairy Godmother (her actress has been confirmed to return) as the Villian in RoR 2. They downplay her so bad in descendant for the sake of others. #Let Fairy Godmother use her wand 2026. But imagine if the possessor of one of the most powerful objects in auradon and the caster of the Barrier spell was evil in this timeline.
Okay but is it bad to say upon hearing Rise of Red sequel has a new villain who seeks to take over Wonderland and have its power, I assumed it'd be a messed up version of Alice? The description for the film DOES say Red and Chloe have to face consquiences of time travel...and what's a bigger consquience then the changes to the story of Alice In Wonderland and in the process, Alice herself??? Granted its Descendants...so they wouldn't even consider it but like...
i recently saw a post theorising Merlin as Morgie's father and i just adore it. I can't remember the at so if anybody can find it let me know.
But I am a huge fan of Merlin/Morgana's relationship in BBC's Merlin. Now don't get me wrong i don't see Merlin/Morganna as endgame but i do adore the idea that they had a short lives relationship/ one night stand that resulted in Morgie.
I imagine that it is a well-kept secret and very few people know of Morgie's true origins. I imagine Morgie always knowing and Merlin letting Morgie and by extension his friends (when morgie is in involved) get away with things. I imagine Merlin and Morgana both tutoring Morgie at magic putting him well above most of the class.
I love all the scenarios that can come from Merlin being Morgie's father. Imagine if Morgie was the son of the world's most renowned and powerful wizard and his biggest rival.
I actually feel like it makes more sense for Max to be the son of Maddox rather than the son of the Mad hatter. I only found out today but the actor who plays Maddox (Leonardo Nam) is 45 years old and is turning 46 at the end of this year while the actor who is playing Max (Brendon Tremblay) is 21 years old.
Oh also Max's real name is Maxwell Tarrant Hightopp Hatter (My opinion). I don't like how all the names are basically shortened names of parents so Maxwell. Tarrant and Hightopp both come from the fact that in a version of the mad hatter his real name is Tarrant Hightopp so Maddox is honouring his father and the Hatter part is from the Mad hatter keeping his last name while also embracing his title.
Viserra Targaryen’s lawyer, Vaelon stand, Roslin x Edmure Stan, Pro-Rhaegar hater, My girl Elia and her babies deserved so much better
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