THEY ALL DESERVED BETTER

If we could stop using the word "cheated" to describe the Robby/Zara situation when it was straight up SA, that would be great!

would you change anything from tory’s introduction in season two to now in season 6? like her as a character and her depth as a whole? like what things would you take out or include?

one thing i’d like to mention is i wouldn’t have tory and sams rivalry to be about miguel. that was lazy and rushed. i’d probably have it start for another reason and built up to the school fight.

Hi, thank you for asking! This is a tough question. As I mentioned before I personally have almost no problems with the writing in the first two seasons. The set-up for rivalry between Tory and Sam at that beach party was pretty well executed in my opinion. Sam and Miguel's kiss seemed to be only the last straw that was added to already existing tension. But I agree that love triangles are a tired and uninspiring tool to create a rivalry.

My main problem is with season 6 mostly. And the changes I would like for Tory as a character would also imply changing the whole show’s trajectory. It means a lot has to change which I will not go into. But the short answer is: 1. I would like to see Tory actually interacting with her family and her mother specifically much earlier in the series. It would be cool to explore that part of Tory’s life. 

2. I wish that “cheating” drama with Robby never happened. Cobra Kai writers love their love triangles. But what they actually have showed wasn't even a love triangle. It was a whole other situation that they won’t even acknowledge in the show itself.

3. I would like Tory to open up more and to have time for self-reflection. If she and Robby actually haven’t stopped interacting with each other in that gap between part 1 and 2 that would be great. I always find it weird how Cobra Kai and Miyagi-do students completely stop all communication the moment they join the opposing dojo. Even if they used to be best friends prior to the whole karate war. It is just unrealistic.

In general I would like to see Tory operate under less dire circumstances that way maybe changes in her personality could happen more naturally.

shes like "you seeing this shit"

Smth smth about Robby growing up watching his mom getting high and drunk out of her mind and bring home skeevy guys to sleep with. Of seeing Sam drunk and kiss Miguel and getting so angry because he thought Miguel took advantage of her. Of him being sad and discouraged and so completely alone and getting drunk for the first time in his life. Of him being so wasted he couldn’t even string a sentence together—couldn’t even utter a single word—in response to Kwon. Of Zara eyeing all this happen. Of him waking up the next day, stumbling out of a hotel room that’s not his looking completely out of it and confused and saying he “can’t remember what happened.” Of Zara kissing him while he stands there numb and unresponsive until he stumbles off, still looking lost and sad and barely aware of his surroundings. Smth smth all of. That.

You’re not a freak. Yeah, I am.

CK S6 Part 2 Spoilers

Hi, I just want to vent about the brawl. This is a rant so, be warned.

So we all agree Tory will end up winning this tournament out of pity right?

Cause I'm sorry, but the show just stablished she needed Robby to save her from Zara and Sam to save her from the other Iron Dragons guy.

She needed to be fucking saved. TWICE. Instead of idk, having her get the glory for more than one hit?

So basically they are telling us "Tory will win, but that's cause Sam will not compete" since there's a leak saying she will be so torn cause of the death (that I'm still processing) she will abandon karate all together.

And people have the audacity to say the writers prefer Tory.

No, they don't.

Giving her a storyline and doing this is not liking the character.

They are saying Tory will never beat Sam no matter what she does, she can train whatever style she wants with whatever sensei she wants, but Sam and the power of Miyagi Do will always come out on top.

She had the BEST motivation, the best reason to win, and she will most likely, but not out of merit, she will win and again there will be this cast of doubt of "but what if Sam continued?"

Cause she can never beat Sam, no matter what. Sam is the writers favorite, even without storyline they will never let her have a clear loss against Tory.

Have I said I hate this season already?

it’s actually fmu how both captains of iron dragons are just massive weirdos!

axel: you and sam had one conversation, now you’re being weird and mean mugging miguel for no reason? grow up. idk why he acting like miguel did him something ? the fuck wrong w him?

zara: taking advantage of robby. just a weird bitch in general? doing allat to make tory jealous.. just absolutely nasty.

cant wait to see em both go DOWNNN in part 3.

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