A Lot Of Interesting Thoughts Here, And No Hate To Either Of The Accounts, Just Wanted To Address The

A lot of interesting thoughts here, and no hate to either of the accounts, just wanted to address the point about Gojo not noticing Geto’s depression.

(Long post ahead; tldr at the bottom)

I think it’s important to recognize that 1) Geto’s descent is incredibly stark for us with the year-long gap (a perspective Gojo doesn’t have), and 2) that this section of the story is told from Geto’s perspective.

That second point is particularly important, bc we can see from the narrative how Geto self-isolates. He doesn’t confide in anyone about his growing hatred and anger, his loneliness, or the real cause of his weight loss. Instead he goes through what is clearly PTSD, and lets himself shatter before anyone around him is aware there’s a real problem. So yes, from Geto’s perspective, Gojo seems distant and uncaring. He also seems relatively unaffected by the SPV mission, as if he’s only become stronger for those events, more untouchable.

But I don’t think this is accurate to what Gojo really felt. It’s made abundantly clear throughout the narrative that Geto’s abandonment seriously affected Gojo, and influenced a lot of who he became afterward. His change from “We’re the strongest,” to “I’m the strongest,” is usually commented on as one of the representations of that change. But there’s another driver there, which is hinted at in one of his early conversations with Megumi:

A Lot Of Interesting Thoughts Here, And No Hate To Either Of The Accounts, Just Wanted To Address The
A Lot Of Interesting Thoughts Here, And No Hate To Either Of The Accounts, Just Wanted To Address The
A Lot Of Interesting Thoughts Here, And No Hate To Either Of The Accounts, Just Wanted To Address The
A Lot Of Interesting Thoughts Here, And No Hate To Either Of The Accounts, Just Wanted To Address The

Looking back, we know Gojo is speaking from personal experience in this scene. We also know that this mindset is a drastic shift for him. Teen Gojo was perfectly willing to leave himself vulnerable knowing Geto would be there with him.

A Lot Of Interesting Thoughts Here, And No Hate To Either Of The Accounts, Just Wanted To Address The

While this scene is meant to show how much Gojo trusts and relies on Geto specifically, the fact that he’s willing to rely on anyone to this extent is a huge contrast with the conversation shown above.

So Gojo has a brush with death, and comes out of it with the realization that, in that decisive moment, it doesn’t matter who his allies are. The moment of his death is only his to experience, and only his to escape (if he can).

His abandonment of Geto wasn’t a lack of care, it was his own response to the traumatic events of Hidden Inventory. Geto witnessed three people he cared for murdered by a non-sorcerer, and spent a year harboring unbearable anger as he recontextualized the world around that reality: that non-sorcerers lead to the misery and death of sorcerers. Gojo, on the other hand, was one of those murdered sorcerers. And he had to live with his own new reality: that if he wants to survive, he can only really rely on himself.

Yes, Gojo’s new commitment to developing his power is a direct response to being defeated for the first time, but it isn’t as simple as losing in a spar. Gojo had to contend with his own death in a very real way, and was clearly changed by that experience. He likely felt he had to be more powerful and more self-reliant, and became set on preventing any repeat of that event. This is something Geto can’t see clearly, because he’s experiencing his own post-traumatic changes. As a result, he overestimates Gojo’s stability, and abandons him, driving him deeper into isolation and hyper-independence.

So it’s not just Gojo who abandons Geto. Essentially, both of them are too busy with their own shit to see what the other is going through, and they move further into their problematic coping strategies, expecting the other to get along without them. Inevitably, they just end up pushing each other further away and deeper into their respective hellholes. Geto’s hellhole just so happens to be the one we’re shown in more detail.

Those are just my thoughts though - happy to hear other opinions!

tldr: Gojo also experiences a massive worldview shift post-Hidden Inventory, it’s just less obvious than Geto’s bc of the perspective we’re given as readers/viewers. In reality, they both unintentionally abandon each other, and they both suffer for it.

Why is Satoru so fixated on this idea of “never letting anyone be alone again”?

The answer at face value is obvious, Suguru was alone after they started taking solo missions, but let’s really talk about the gravity of that statement, and also the relevance that Shoko’s “I was there too, you weren’t alone” has with this concept.

I’ll be discussing the manga so spoilers if you aren’t caught up:

This analysis cooks I tell you

In Jujukai 0, Satoru sees that Yuuta tried killing himself with a knife to prevent hurting other people. He wants to confine himself completely and be alone, exactly like what Suguru had to go through a decade earlier. Satoru recognizes this and forces Yuuta to join the first years so that he won’t be alone and face the same descent into madness that Suguru did. He feels that he failed Suguru, and this is shown time and time again throughout the story, such as here:

Why Is Satoru So Fixated On This Idea Of “never Letting Anyone Be Alone Again”?

Here, Satoru had a discussion with Shoko, who is remembering that conversation. He said that he’ll raise the next crop of sorcerers to be allies so no one will be alone (his prime motivation for everything), and then Shoko responds effectively, “I’d never fall in love with either of you, but even still, I was still there, you weren’t alone”

Why Is Satoru So Fixated On This Idea Of “never Letting Anyone Be Alone Again”?

But she isn’t recognizing the full meaning behind Satoru’s words. Because what happened after Satoru became the strongest? This became his belief:

Why Is Satoru So Fixated On This Idea Of “never Letting Anyone Be Alone Again”?

He advanced at such a quick rate that he left Suguru in the dust. And that caused both of them to be alone. He was alone in being the strongest, and Suguru was alone in being unable to reach that same level, alone to deal with curses on solo missions, and alone in his descent of madness. It drove them apart, and got in between their bond.

I think Shoko recognizes that much. But I thought it was weird when she suddenly said “I’d never fall in love with either of you” because it was like…well, yeah, but why say that? Bringing up love seemed kind of random and out of place.

And then I realized it’s because she recognizes that Satoru and Suguru were in love with each other. Being in love with someone means that you feel a certain level of depth unmatched with anyone else. You feel like the two of you are at the top of the world, or in your very own world, apart from the rest, completely untouchable. Time and time again we see this shown throughout Satoru and Suguru’s interactions.

Why Is Satoru So Fixated On This Idea Of “never Letting Anyone Be Alone Again”?
Why Is Satoru So Fixated On This Idea Of “never Letting Anyone Be Alone Again”?
Why Is Satoru So Fixated On This Idea Of “never Letting Anyone Be Alone Again”?
Why Is Satoru So Fixated On This Idea Of “never Letting Anyone Be Alone Again”?

That is what Shoko means when she says “I’d never fall in love with either of you”. She’s saying “I recognize that I never felt the kind of love you two had for each other, but you were still never alone.”

And I get that. But because she doesn’t comprehend the bond they had (and really, she couldn’t, because the only ones who can truly feel it are the two of them), Satoru and Suguru really were alone once they split up. Maybe not physically, but emotionally, they were all alone.

And Satoru left Suguru first. Not physically, but emotionally. Because of the stark difference in their abilities. And that is what lead Suguru down his dark path, because he felt alone, and Satoru wasn’t there to chase away his contempt for non-sorcerers like he used to.

When Satoru says he wants to raise strong allies so no one is alone, he’s saying that he wants no one to be the strongest, he wants everyone to be at the same level, so that there’s no barriers, there’s no blind reliance on power causing someone to take what they have in front of them for granted like he did to Suguru.

That’s why this hits harder given that context:

Why Is Satoru So Fixated On This Idea Of “never Letting Anyone Be Alone Again”?

“Trust, huh? To think you still had some of that for me.”

Suguru spent these last 10 years thinking that Satoru didn’t trust him, didn’t need to, because of the difference in their abilities. Why trust someone else when you need only rely on your own powers? Or, in the animated version, Suguru says,

“You want to talk about trust? I didn’t think I still had any of that left, with the shit I went through.”

Satoru left him alone when he “alone became the honored one,” breaking Suguru’s trust. From that point, he didn’t pay real attention to Suguru. When he asked Suguru “have you lost weight? Are you okay?” And accepted Suguru’s half-baked answer, that showed Suguru that Satoru didn’t really care. Or at least, wasn’t paying enough attention to know something was seriously wrong. Broken trust. Satoru had abandoned him and their bond.

Too late, Satoru recognizes this. And he makes his vow to raise the next generation to be strong allies so that no one gets left behind like Suguru or isolated and “special” like himself. You can even see it when he decides to put Itadori in the room right next to Megumi. He never wants it to happen again.

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1 year ago

Some thoughts about writing, tropes, and writing “rules”:

There are a lot of “do’s” and “don’t’s” and “avoid these tropes” for various genres, and while, sure, it might be best practice to avoid certain sayings or plot points that are overdone, I don’t think it’s really the “overdone” part that’s the issue. In most of these tropes, the initial appeal was some deeper meaning the author was conveying, and I think that’s been somewhat lost over time.

The appeal of LOTR and Sauron wasn’t just “creepy dark lord conquering the world.” The evil of Sauron and the ring was so insidious, because it played on the evil that exists inside of every person, and reflected on the exhausting bravery it takes to do good in a world that feels so much bigger than you. It became a trope, bc future writers and publishers mistook that magic for a product of the surface level plot point.

Pride and Prejudice and Emma made Enemies to Lovers and Friends to Lovers popular, respectively, not just bc of the dynamics themselves, but bc they highlighted human weaknesses, and showed how relationships can better each person involved.

So I think the question is less “what or what not to write,” and more “why are you writing it.” Write what you want, just make sure it’s what your story and characters need.


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7 months ago

Having your own personal blog is honestly quite a nice change of pace compared to Reddit. I could put a funny GIF of George Bush getting hit by a shoe on here and the worse case scenario is that no one even notices.

You put that on a big subreddit and you get your eyes gouged out and a heap of political discourse underneath your post.

Having Your Own Personal Blog Is Honestly Quite A Nice Change Of Pace Compared To Reddit. I Could Put

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2 months ago

vampire appreciators have two modes:

it’s about the secret darkness inside you. it’s about not being able to tell if it controls you or you control it. it’s about the wrestle between who you want to be and who you need to be. the conversation between the gruesome and the uncontainable

sexy guy bite neck sexily. biting


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1 year ago

Y’know, sometimes you don’t write the best fics. They’re never going to get over 300 kudos and get talked about and cherished like some of the fics in your fandom. But they’re still an important part of your fandom’s ecosystem. Maybe they’re really niche or you wrote a one shot in a couple hours and didn’t edit it or maybe you’re just writing for the hell of it. Not everyone’s going to read these fics, or tell someone else to read them, or even click on them. Chances are, despite however unloved they may seem, someone likes them quite a bit. At least enough to read them. Writing and creating doesn’t mean you have to make the best thing ever. It just means you’ve made something. That’s all. And then you get to share it with other people, and it won’t be for everyone, but everyone’s got different things they’re drawn to. All fic writers, from those with thousands of kudos to those with zero, make for a healthy ecosystem of creation. Like maybe you aren’t the goddamn sun in the sky, but it’s pretty chill to be a frog right? Or a deer. Or a tree. Or a water bear. And everything you can think of. We’re all here. Even if you’re a worm.


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8 months ago

I've been thinking about this non-stop for a week while re-reading rote, and I agree, it's f-ing brilliant.

Even just from a character perspective, not looking at the commentary on the world as a whole, it immediately creates these unspoken dynamics between characters' personalities and virtues, the expectations placed on them, and the true meaning of these words they've been tied to.

Is Regal failing to live up to his name, or is regality on its own not a virtue rulers should aspire to? Is it a shallow, egoistic concept by nature?

The honest, true-hearted character that leads Verity to take on the most thankless tasks of ruling, causes those same, deceptive tasks to eat away at his mind, body, and self-image.

FitzChivalry spends the first trilogy haunted by the specter of his father, mimicking and yet failing to live up to him at every step. He's caring and empathetic, but too traumatized to show it completely. He fights to defend the people he loves, but without any outward appearance of "honor" (a beserker and an assassin, not a knight or soldier). He's a caring, morally righteous kid serving his family, but quietly, often through underhanded murder. He's more than a bastard, but not quite the image of chivalry either.

there's something so endlessly compelling to me about the naming system in rote. it really casts the whole thing into a metaphorical, mythological light. chivalry is dead. verity is gone,

and it's patience who rules in buck keep. it's patience...


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1 year ago

Witcher S3 really said…

Promiscuous womanizer is pansexual (great characterization; absolutely not a stereotype)

Said womanizer has random, unnecessary romance with a genocidal maniac who would murder all his friends if given the chance

Most powerful sorceress on the continent commits suicide, sometimes a flower is just a flower, etc., bc Scorned Woman (TM)

Woman rebellion leader learns practicality way too late from Random Capable Man with no relation to the plot

Powerful sorceress abandons family to save other sorceresses only to be saved by murderous misogynist and the power of racism

…bc the books needed better representation. Ok.


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4 months ago

trope i really like is self-loathing characters desperate for the catharsis of punishment for frankly rather selfish reasons who r also obsessed with repeatedly pressing others into hating them and hurting them as essentially a method of self harm. yes baby continue making it worse for urself and everybody around u instead of doing an actually productive and effective journey of improvement and redemption


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