This is the last time I talk about LND, at last I hope.
I’m gonna scream so, to all the lovers of LND, sorry. To all the persons who didn’t read the book of Phantom I’m gonna spoil at the end and Erik is The Phantom.
Every character is NOT respected ! Don’t you see it ? I mean, a drunk Raoul who is a bad father and who plays money games ? A Christine in love with Erik ? I mean, she is afraid of him ! In all the musical she is afraid, exept when she thinks that he is the angel of music. Just listen to “Why have you brouth us here” and dare to tell me she is able to have a child with Erik ! And no ! Fear can’t turn to love !
Raoul, do you think Raoul could really be such a bad father ? Did you saw him in Phantom ? How can this man can turn like this ? This is totally insane.
Let’s talk about Gustave ! Do you really think he is Erik’s son ? In the musical it is said that Erik’s deformity is from born things, but Gustave do not have a deformity. Ok, he is not forced to have one but Christne had this child just before her weeding, why can’t this child be Raoul’s son ?
Can we talk about the Giry’s ? Meg was the best friend of Christine ( in the musical ) and she’s the murderer of Christine ?? And Madame Giry is so bad with her dauther ! I mean what kind of mother can tell such a things to her dauther.
And actually LND can’t be a sequel because the musical of Phantom is based on the novel of Gaston Leroux as in this novel Erik dies at the end. Sorry for the spoil but it was obvious and the important is how does he dies and why, not that he dies.
So to me Erik and Christine just can’t be together and have a child ect... To me LND never existed ans his name should be “Love Should Dies”. This thing can’t be linked to Phantom...
It’s just my point of view, fell free to have you own.
Sorry for the long post and thanks to read it all !
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Re-watch Phantom was a good thing !
I love Hadley Fraser and Ramin Karimloo and Sierra Bogess ! They are so good together !
I still hate Erik ! Despite all my sister said, that I would like him when I'll re-watch the musical. Ha ! I was right ! Still hate you Erik !
Sill love you Raoul ! And still love you Christine !
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EXACTLY ! And I'm sure it's interesting because it's right !
•i can cook
•i have very nice hair that i’ll let you play with.
•i have a very soft squishy tummy that’s good for cuddling.
•i’ll let you have your personal space and not complain or anything.
•i’m good at movie marathons or bingeing tv shows
•i have a dog
•i am also very protective so you’ll feel safe
•i’ll sing along to musicals with you.
I think Raoul will never let Gustave go with Erik.
I mean, ok he is not his real father ( even if it's not really clear and we just have to believe Christine ) but Gustave always saw Raoul as a father and I think Raoul would never give the child that he educated to a murderer/kidnapper.
So yeah after Christine's song he left his wife and son but he had a deal with Erik and I don't think that he wanted to take the risk to stay even if he lose. And I think Erik really forced Raoul !
And I think after Christine's death Raoul would be a much better father, like his wife is dead and the only thing he have is Gustave and Gustave only have Raoul.
Tell me if I am wrong ?
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I love how Raoul just like an angry dog, maybe I am the only one who see the dog but I see it !
“ (ง •̀_•́)ง ” - Raoul, Vicomte de Chagny
Mom: *opens my computer and sees my home screen* who are they?
Me: Hadley Fraser and Ramin Karimloo
Mom:.....
Sister: Tim and Tub
Mom:....
Me: Erik and Raoul
Mom: Erik?
Me: the Phantom and Raoul
Mom: ahhh I see. *points at Ramin* that one looks like the Sherlock Holmes guy from The Librarians
Me: Moriarty?
Mom: yes
Does anyone see the resemblance? I don't
I truly believe that Raoul didn't deserve everything that happened in LND. I mean he is just so gentle with Christine, he is so much in love with her ! He would do anything for her, just to find that his son is the son of The Phantom of the Opera, the man who kills and kidnaps people.
So yeah he made a bad decision by make Christine sing in Don Juan but he couldn't think about Erik killing Piangi and takes his place. I think he just did a mistake, witch is really normal. By the way I think that Christine could trust Raoul in this plan.
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I have a question !
In Love Never Dies, the eponime song says :
" Love never dies
Love never falters
Once it has spoken
Love is yours
Love never fades
Love never alters
Hearts may get broken
Love endures "
So WHY does she "fall in love" with Erik !? She was in love with Raoul ! And then when she said that love never dies she just goes with the Phantom ?! The man who just kidnaps her, kills a lot of people, try to kill Raoul and ( spoilers for those who have not read the book ! ) almost destroy the Opera and a district / quarter of Paris !
Why ? I need answers ;-;
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I have a question !
Am I the only one who noticed that "Look with your heart" from Love Never Dies really looks like "Le Petit Prince" ( a French novel of Antoine de Saint-Exupéry ) ?
In the book, there is this quote ( I'll write it in French and English ) :
In French : "On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux."
In English : "You can only see well with the heart, the essential is invisible to the eyes."
Now the song : "So look with your heart And not with your eyes"
Christine sing this because, to her, you can see well with you heart only.
It's quite similar and I don't know if it's a reference to the novel or not but I like it !
So am I the only one who noticed ?
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Unpopular opinion : I don't like Erik.
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I LOVE YOU !
( well, she did kind of, But we’ll get to that later, I’m also defending poor Erik here.)
so one day I was scrolling through Instagram, and my christine loving heart finds a comment like this,
“Christine is a selfish, little slut. She doesn’t deserve erik. Well, the best men find the worst women i suppose,”
or something like that , I did post about it before I wiped out my account because one, I didn’t enjoy the things I was doing with my account—anyhow, I’m sure you can find the original post on a reblog.
but that comment really did infuriate me. I bet they hate raoul, I just know they do. And no, that’s not the first Christine hater I have encountered— In fact, they’re everywhere on Pinterest, indeed—everywhere!
Oh, and another thing! Why do people hate raoul? Because of Love Never Dies? Even with the sequel, he is an amazing character!
I don’t like what they did with love never dies . . The music is outstanding, but really, the ironic ending is too good to continue , leave that to the fanfiction writers who want a better ending for poor Erik. I’m sure the Phangirls screamed at Webber for having a poor ending for Erik , Even though Gaston Leroux wanted it that way.
(Or...I’m convinced it was made for Brightman, whom divorced Webber, responding to that— Webber made a self insert fanfiction— and made Christine perish.)
But anyways, Christine feared Erik, that’s the thing. Yes, I’m sure christine loved Erik, Erik is supposed to be a sympathetic villain.
But he murders people, manipulated the entire opera house, threaten to take raoul’s life many times in the book, kept her down for two weeks in the book, tied Christine up in the book, made Christine choose between the death of many people of Paris or marriage—must I go on?
Now, I’m more of an E/C shipper myself. But why hate on Raoul and Christine? Why hate on Raoul because of something he couldn’t control? Why hate on Christine becuase she was told to go by the poor man, who she was afraid of and chose Raoul?
Now here’s were i défend Erik.
Erik didn’t know how to love. Erik didn’t know how to do anything but kill. He saw a light and loved her because she was kind and could bring him music, kind of in the mindset— “Well, maybe she could bring me happiness, joy.. something other than agony, that’s what I’ve always wanted ,”
But he was too demanding, scary and angry. (Half of the phandom, including I- ship Erik x Therapy, hell, he made a mannequin in a replica of his crush, I’m scared of what that mannequin has seen.)
Raoul had no control over whom Christine would choose, but he was sweet; a boyish charm and warm. Yes, nobody likes that boy. But he’ll treat you better, would you like a toxic man who has known nothing but pain? Or a warm, kind gentleman who would protect you with his life? Both would die for you, but one is more mentally stable than the other.
Oh, yes. The answer you may choose- the toxic man, so you could “teach him love,” I’m looking at you, wattpad. I am in an anti-raoul club. I can confirm however I want an Anti-Raoul & erik club because they don’t deserve the goddess we call Christine Daae.
Like, let’s be honest, they’re both not good, but the better choice would be raoul, maybe if Erik didn’t do all the not-so-good things I listed in the 9th paragraph of this rant, (I hardly even call these paragraphs, maybe—ninth glob of sentences?)
Okay, the title is kind of clickbait— Christine did do something wrong. But not because she left erik! Because she tore off his mask after he said repeatedly not to!
I do agree why she did it, possibly because she thought it was someone she already knew, (the MazM game explained it perfectly.)
But overall, she didn’t do much wrong, she did what she could, and tried to do something, anything to protect others from erik.
Christine Daaé did not do anything wrong, as neither did Viscount Raoul De Chagny.
(okay that’s a lie, raoul didn’t listen to christine—but that doesn’t make it okay to hate raoul.)