natdremurr
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party grunkles
He saw the red flags but yellow it's his favorite color
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-My muse, what's your love language? Mine it's physical touch
-Manipulation.
DUDE IM SO HAPPY RN LIKE, WHAT DO U MEAN I MADE THIS SILLY LITTLE KEYCHAINS???? THEY'RE SO CUTE OMG DKAJLSJDLA
Just before he leaves the room, Ford pauses, and then draws a sign in the air above Stanley’s head, a simple incantation for a dreamless sleep.
Im so normal about my own AU. I am SO so normal.
This scene is the last scene of my- I guess one shot? It’s almost 4k so it’s not a Drabble- for the Safety Alarm AU
CRYING ANS SHITTING MYSELF DHSJDVQODHWKWKSALPDF
FINALLY!! I FINISHED THIS!!
(NOW I CAN KMS/J)
So what are you saying is that THIS could be canon in the AU???
Pssst Stanley is also a magic user but completely differently. Depending on how funny it is, he might not realize it’s magic. Of if he does and we’re going sad route, he does not equate it to what his brother could do. Ignoring how he could have been just as good as his brother if he had the same supports.
Oh no, you've activated my "Yap Card" you're gonna regret this.
Magic is about intention. That's the underlying, real power source of it all. Willpower is another factor, sure, and you can't do proper spells without actually learning them, but the driving force behind the magic isn't something you're born with or something you learn, it's something you already have the start to, and can cultivate.
Ford's been working with magic for years by the time the AU takes place. He's a pretty confident magic user (I say magic user, but I think the most accurate term is witch, as He's relatively self taught) and has learned, most importantly, how to have INTENTION when doing magic.
The more you can visualize something, the more you can imagine the thing already happening or being done or being THERE, the more powerful the magic is.
(Its part of the reason that VIOLENT magic just. Doesn't work much for Ford. He'd have to not only DEEPLY WANT that violence to happen, He'd have to visualize every part of it, not just the spell casting but the effects on the victim.)
Basically, self confidence and visualization is the key here.
Stan. Isn't. All that good at that.
He's got PLENTY of willpower. He's a stubborn bastard, and he's got a great imagination, but he straight up Doesn't Believe stuff will actually work, which is kind of the most important part.
With spells you don't just imagine the casting itself, you imagine the spell already HAPPENING, who it effects and how, how the spell dies down, etc etc. You have to visualize it ALREADY working, with such confidence that its less like "please work" and more like "its already working"
Stan has trouble with that, because he can't imagine a situation where everything goes right for him.
He's trying to levitate a bowl? I mean, knowing his luck, it'll rise up a foot and then fall to the ground, shattering.
And then it does, because that's what Stan visualized.
There is a work around for this, and that's what im calling the Anything You Can Do I Can Do Better Complex, where if Stan sees Ford do some crazy magic shit, he goes "oh well I can totally do that" and DOES.
Spells by himself? Difficult, with mixed results. Spells to one up Ford? Stan is already casting it.
(For Ford, this is utterly infuriating. He learns through massive amounts of research and reading, but all he has to do is explain the spell and tell Stan the incantation (if there is one) and suddenly Stan can do it too?? Is Stan more POWERFUL than him?? How is this occurring WHAT)
Keeping all this in mind though, FORD is the magic user in this AU really. Stan likes magic sure, when it cooks his bacon for him and does the laundry without him touching it, but when it comes down to it, he's always been more aggressive than Ford, and he's always been able to see himself more as the protector, the one who goes out and fights, rather than the one using magic. And you see, it's all about how you see yourself, and what you see yourself as capable of.
Ford sees that Stan is capable of magic, and is excited to share it, but Stan thinks so lowly of himself as to fully, wholeheartedly believe that there's no situation where he would be better, even on par, with Ford's intelligence or abilities.
(Unless of course, in extreme circumstances, where what Stan thinks of himself doesn't matter, when the intention to do something, to save, to heal, to protect, is so strong it overpowers it.)
Old men (derogatory but affectionate)
I’ve been trying out the gf style sort of? I’m having fun
And that is why the Grunkles can’t go back to Italy
You better run Stan, cause if the Italian police dont catch you, Ford certainly will
This is because of this post and @otsalezu and @stoicjewel
And also because the Stan-Had-Something-To-Do-With-The-Pope’s-Death joke is just. My favorite
Stan twins: codependency & identity issues
“I tell you it’s unnatural for siblings to get along as well as you do,” says Stan to Dipper and Mabel in Not What He Seems, clearly missing his own relationship with Ford before things started to change. “We used to be like Dipper and Mabel,” says Ford in Weirdmaggedon 3: Take Back the Falls. Were they really, though?
I think what many people don’t get about Stan and Ford’s dynamic as children, or even as teenagers, is that, no matter what Stan and Ford think or say about it, they were not like Mabel and Dipper. That just highlights their lack of self-awareness. Here’s a canon analysis for anyone who cares to understand my point:
Mabel and Dipper have overall very different interests and hobbies and act separately on them. They have other friends and spend time with them—well, at least Mabel has Candy and Grenda, as the bubbly social butterfly she is; Dipper, on the other hand, seems way more preoccupied with deciphering the mysteries of Journal 3, but doesn’t miss an opportunity to be included in Wendy’s cool teenage group, as seen in episodes The Inconveniencing and The Love God (in the latter, he seems to be actually succeeding). As fraternal twins of different genders, no matter how alike they look (and despite Mabel’s joke of being “girl Dipper”), they still manage to retain pretty distinct identities. No issue here.
Mabel does her sleepovers, goes to boy band shows, and has encounters with potential crushes. When a surprised Dipper asks her about her vampire love in The Deep End, she points out, “I don’t tell you everything.” Dipper, meanwhile, explored the town with Soos, went to Wendy’s house, hung out with her teen gang, and overall lived many adventures without Mabel, such as trying to prove himself a man with help of the Manotaurs. I think the episode that shows the healthy independence Dipper and Mabel had from each other the best is probably Carpe Diem, inspired in Alex’s real life frustration with his sister, Ariel, but it can be observed all through the series:
What is shown to us in AToTS already differs from that. The Stan twins were inseparable, and each other’s only friends, as Stan establishes early on in his narrative: “Those bullies may have been right about us not making many friends, but when push comes to shove, you only really need one.”
With his question to Ford in the Lost Legends comic, The Jersey Devil’s in the Details, Stan implies they really did everything together, in a way reminiscent of Phineas and Ferb: “So what’re we gonna do today, buddy?”
Even small details, like the toys in their room, served to show the difference between the Stans and Dipper & Mabel, as Matt Chapman clarifies on the episode’s official commentary:
You also see that at this age, all the stuff that would cross over, that would appeal to both of them. You know, it’s not just like, oh, there’s science stuff here and then there’s like—I don’t know—what little Stan would be into. It’s like, no, they both like all this.
“But Mabel was just as desperate in Dipper and Mabel vs the Future as Stan was in A Tale of Two Stans!” Yes, true. She was, and I do believe her relationship with Dipper was the most important one in her life. But do you think the facts that a) she was already terrified of growing up, as shown in the episode Summerween, b) Candy and Grenda declined her invitations to their birthday party, c) Wendy showed her the apparently terrible reality of being a teenager, and d) Stan told her that it would be fine because at least she would always have Dipper... had nothing to with it? Originally her parents were going to forbid her from bringing Waddles to Piedmont, as revealed in the episode commentary of Dipper and Mabel vs. the Future, as just one more heartbreaking thing on the pile of Mabel’s Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day. (Of course, teen Stan’s circumstances were aggravated by the bad home situation he was being “left alone” in by Ford—just like Mabel! Whose parents were arguing, per TBoB canon, to the point of giving Dipper recurring nightmares.)
Another very important thing is that the poor girl was twelve years old, while Stan was presumably seventeen-ish, an age at which separation would be normal and even expected, with the time for college approaching. In fact, differently from what happened with Mabel, whose imminent separation from Dipper came out of left field through an unexpected proposal by Ford (foreshadowed only by her slight discomfort over how close Ford and Dipper were becoming), there was a blatant rift between the teen Stans that Ford went so far as to acknowledge to Stan’s face. Using Stan’s own words from the Land Before Swine commentary: “Anyway, cut to high school, the guy’s never kissed a girl, prom is coming up, and he asked me for advice. ‘Stanley, I know things have been a little weird between you and me with college, but can you talk to me about girls?’” That was before prom (the one in which a girl threw fruit punch at Ford), mind you.
And still, this is what Stan thinks when he realizes Ford is going to accept the scholarship: “Without Ford, I was just half of a dynamic duo. I couldn’t make it without him.” He saw himself as only half of a whole—no wonder, with the way both twins were pushed to believe this since their birth, when they were both named Stan.
When asked about Shermie, Alex observed that a crucial part of their dynamic is that they only had each other. No younger or older brother to support them. The quote from HanaHyperfixates’ and ThatGFFan’s interview:
In terms of Shermie, I remember asking Rob or somebody at some point, like, “Would Shermie be here, logically? Do we have to see him?” I don’t really wanna see him. I’m not interested in that. I’m interested in Stan and Ford being—sort of having only each other and then losing each other because of their different life paths.
I think the suggestion was, “Maybe Shermie would be a baby. Maybe that would happen.” And being like, “okay sure.”
From my own observations about their parents, that point is only driven further home.
Filbrick is, well, Filbrick. I don’t think I need to explain much here; every one of us has different interpretations and headcanons about him, but they seem to all agree on the common factor he wasn’t a good father—how much that can be justified by their time period or stretched to accommodate the most heartwrenching stangst is up for debate, just not a subject for this post.
Caryn is more complicated. I think Filbrick was definitely ‘worse’ than her, so to speak, at least in a more obvious way, and she has canonically demonstrated considerable fondness for Stan in particular—according to her, Stan’s rambunctiousness can be attributed to an excess of “personality,” he’s her “little free spirit.” She was, most notably, one of the two people present at Stan’s funeral if the info on the new website is to be trusted. We see her smiling brightly in the picture of the baby Stan twins included in TBoB, which hints at the fact she indeed liked her kids.
But the fact that she, as an adult, didn’t intervene when Stan was kicked out is simply, in my point of view, inexcusable. One could say she was momentarily paralyzed from an overwhelming fear of Filbrick, as a supposed victim herself, but a) that’s already entering headcanon domain, and b) I think that’s far from the truth and directly contradicting the comics, in which she looks happy and relaxed in the company of Filbrick: initiating contact and kissing him on the cheek, comfortingly stroking his back, looking at him with can only be described as tenderness... I don’t think Filbrick is meant to be seen as a monster, not in an exaggerated way. (He’s shown to be touched by Stan’s little stunt with the golden chain, too.) Just a really shitty father, in a common, boring, more nuanced, no less traumatizing, way.
Borrowing a paragraph from a previous analysis:
To me, the most telling thing of all is the fact Stan calls for Ford to help him, not his own mother. Ford, his brother, same age as him, who was at the moment beyond furious with him and very unlikely to show any compassion. Ford, whose attempts to change Filbrick’s mind would more likely than not have been unsuccessful. Not Caryn, adult, who probably had much greater sway over Filbrick. They say a child’s first instinct is to call for their mama. Clearly not in this case!
I’m not saying, here, that Caryn didn’t care about her boys. I elaborate more on her in the meta referenced above, here.
I find it adorable how easily, without any previous prompting, baby Stanley opens up to Ford about his feelings in the comics. The sheer vulnerability of this moment, seeking Ford’s reassurance that he wasn’t a bad kid; the implicit, profound trust, especially coming from someone like Stan, who grows into a man packed to the gills with toxic masculinity due to what he learned from his father. And the manner in which Ford gently comforts him, as if he were used to doing so. As Stan, too, had been shown to do when Crampelter mocked Ford’s fingers. They were clearly accustomed to being each other’s emotional pillars, in the way that kids who learned early on that they can’t count on adults or lean on the authority figures in their lives start building their own little safe space.
The way I see it, the Stan twins got along extremely well, for better or for worse. No obnoxious sibling bickering. No fights and conflict. How could they? They were literally each other’s only friend. If anything, their first major fight was caused by lack of communication, among many other things; they repressed their frustrations with each other to a ridiculous point instead of simply externalizing them like you would expect of an average sibling dynamic.
Second of all, they were monozygotic aka identical twins, as strongly hinted in the show, comics, and books, and as confirmed by Alex on the TBoB website, the behind-the-scenes DVD commentaries, and Twitter. The first mention of it, in 2015, below:
They were both named Stan, they had the same face. I’ve read irl identical twins’ confessions about the nature of such a relationship re: identity issues and how people tend to treat you, and it’s often not pretty. In the Stan twins’ case, their sense of identity was beyond blurry, and it’s not difficult to see why. If you pay attention to the show or the comics, you’ll see many hints of this unhealthiness: the way they were both called to the principal’s office (“Pines twins,” even though only Ford was an interested party), the way Stan was called “a dumber, sweatier version” of Ford by Crampelter, the way they had already pretended to be each other before, not in their childhood but adolescence (Stan’s idea, according to hilarious extra material in the DVDs).
Baby Ford, in the comics, has demonstrated a tendency to shoulder the blame that should only be attributed to Stan. For example, when he exclaims, “Oh my God! We killed the Sibling Brothers!” Ford, honey, if anyone had killed the Sibling Brothers, it would’ve been your brother, the person who shoved them in the first place. Not you.
I find it adorable that he also grounded himself for Stan! Filbrick had been very clear about grounding Stan, only, not both twins. But Ford stays with him as if he were grounded as well, as if he didn’t even have a choice. Where Stan was, there was Ford, not far behind.
They were an unit. Inseparable. As simple as that.
Until they weren’t.
The science fair incident happens, of course—and it’s worth noting Ford doesn’t consider the possibility that Stan sabotaged him out of jealousy or envy of his success for even a second! Instead, he immediately assumes Stan broke his machine so Ford would stay with him!
Did their codependency end with their separation, then? I’ve seen many people believing that yes, it did.
But mullet!Stan, now an adult, ten years after his fight with Ford, still resents Ford for not staying with him “forever”:
Not only that, but as Rob Renzetti (who is Gravity Falls’ supervising producer and story editor and the co-author of Journal 3) phrased it in this separate interview by HanaHyperfixates, Ford’s absence in Stan’s life haunted him and shaped all his relationships:
Um, I mean, to me that’s—I mean, really, Stan—Stan’s life has been… it’s been… sad, and lonely, since—he really… his brother was his best friend, and he loved him so, and I don’t think, you know, I don’t think any other relationship ever worked out for him, because of what happened between him and his brother.
And by the end of it all, you get Bill calling Stan “co-dependant” (British Bill?) on the TBoB website:
I know you might think, at first, that we should take Bill’s insults with a grain of salt, since he’s 1) Bill and 2) petty and desperate. But Bill has also a track record of trying to hit where he thinks will hurt the most, and he knows people. His insult here is not an isolated thing either. It might have been easily dismissed, I agree, if not for all the other evidence for the Stans’ codependency that I’m currently showing you. It’s just one proof out of many, just reinforcing an idea that’s already presented quite clearly.
If you’re still not convinced, Alex has revealed in HanaHyperfixates and ThatGFFan’s interview that Ford’s entire character was built around the type of person that could plausibility explain Stan’s neediness:
Ford was very much us building backwards. The same way you know a black hole is there by the light warped around it, it’s like, you know the damage someone’s family has done to them by all of their weird tics and behaviors. So who is the character who would result in Stan being this hurt and needy and mad and also longing?
But Stan’s codependency, imo, was always easier to see than Ford’s, to the point people mistakenly think Stan cared more about Ford than Ford about him. (I’ve dedicated an entire meta to debunking that assumption as well, here.)
In the commentary of Society of the Blind Eye, though, Alex added, referring to Ford and Fiddleford’s friendship:
Ford as somebody who lost Stan is kinda looking for—even though he rejected his brother, he kinda needs, he needs that other person, and he tried to find that in this kinda sweet prodigy and he just pushed him too far.
What Alex said about Ford’s relationship with Fiddleford can easily be applied to Ford’s relationship with Bill and with Dipper, since Ford needs “that other person,” needs to be one half of a duo. Ford has tried to recreate his dynamic with Stan again, and again, and again:
And then, of course, we have Ford’s proposal.
What’s really cool about this first image (below) is that it was drawn before Stan even accepted Ford’s proposal, and parallels their childhood picture in Ford’s pocket (one that, per Word of God, Ford has always carried with him, even before his portal days, as explained here) in a very obvious manner:
Ford was already excitedly fantasizing, drawing fanart of them together, picking their outfits and the name of the boat.
But more than that, he also says:
[...] I think it’s time for the Pines twins to join forces again. At least, I hope so. I haven’t discussed my idea with Stan yet. But if I know my brother, he will jump at the chance to find “money and babes.”
And this, to me, expresses both his hope that Stan would welcome his idea and agree to sail away with him and his almost certainty that it is exactly what is going to happen. Ford does mention Stan’s love for “money and babes,” but do you guys think Ford didn’t know what (or better yet, whom) Stan actually loved? In AToTS, Journal 3, and TBoB’s new canon material, we can observe that same certainty. In all three instances, Ford immediately assumes that Stan will show up and come for his call via postcard with no indication whatsoever that the possibility of Stan declining showed up in his mind.
Alex has also commented, in the first interview I’ve referenced:
Those characters at sea—it was so rich. They’re really really funny, because they both have major major blind spots. I can kinda write stories about them as a duo forever, because you can always excuse them both getting hyped on a bad idea for their own reasons, and then you can always come up with a reason for them to disagree about it, and it’s always sweet to see them come together again, because they’re so full of themselves, but they are also both so damaged they desperately need each other.
Not only reinforcing the idea that their codependency was—or at least eventually became—mutual, but confirming that things returned to their status quo. Ford has a black & white mindset, the only way he knows how to be with Stan is a codependent way. They’re either separated and estranged or they’re sailing completely alone on a boat for the rest of their lives. Either rivals or best friends forever. There’s no middle ground for him.
Weird old men in a weird country (and more spanish speaker Stanley)
People need to draw sea grunkles visiting their countries and getting in trouble with local cryptids, or just doing tourism XD
The human need to make your husband suffer 🙏
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Doodled thus back in February when I went skiing.
Ford absolutely skis. Lee thinks skiing is a sissy sport and tries snowboarding. Emphasis on tries.
Headshot
Study
I HAD TO!!!! Plus I was rewatching Brooklyn 99 and thinking of Ford going feral the same way that Amy does is just so freaking hilarious
Okay so I've been slowly writing down my thoughts and compiling a basic skeleton for the Twins in time, Oldies in the Eighties AU, where Old Stan and Old Ford meet up with their younger opposites in 1981 or 1982
So the duos are Old Stan and Young Ford in Gravity Falls, and Old Ford and Young Stan in wherever Stan was during his drifter days
And that's super fun and I can think about that for days, HOWEVER
They all need to meet up eventually, and I realize that when they are all still separated, I'm going to have to have Stan SERIOUSLY domestic Young Ford, and explain some shit, because otherwise Younger Ford is gonna get his teeth kicked in.
By Old Ford.
Because you cannot tell me that Old Ford wouldn't immediately jump his past self. It's on sight. That man has had his entire life to regret choices he made (choices THIS younger version of himself is making) and I fully believe that Old Ford is feral enough to swing a baseball bat at his own knees.
Young Ford like. Offhandedly says "Oh, some things never change, Stanley will always be immature." About HIS version of Stan, and Old Ford just cricks his neck around like the exorcist.
"Ford. You cannot fist fight your younger self. That's-there's so many things wrong with that."
"Let me go Stanley-Stan he's getting away! Stan! He's had it coming-let go!"
The aftermath
Distracción (Part Two)
Part One | Part Three (coming soon)
Shoutout to @leidostrange and @quantumshade for helping with the Spanish and Yiddish respectively!
EDIT: I realized I placed the exclamation mark on the wrong side of the Yiddish 😭
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I just wanna be like them, just a bunch of silly little guys
eweweww ewwwwwww what are they doingg
There isn't a more stable relationship than a college student and instant noodles
Vegetta: And on Valentine’s Day, we have to go look for women.
Rubius: Women?
Luzu: Or men, anyone can– 🤨
Vegetta: People can look for whatever they want.
Rubius: Whatever they want, yes... And we can go after other Karmaland members? [He stares longingly at Vegetta]
Vegetta: [Oblivious] You know what– it could even be a nun!
Rubius: Ah. Yeah, a nun would be ok… 😔
Luzu:
Rubius' poorly-conveyed feelings, Vegetta being oblivious, and Luzu watching the trainwreck unfold: a highlight from Karmaland 4.
[ Full Subtitle Transcript ↓ ]
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Vegetta: We have to make an event for… In February, for...
Rubius: February?
Luzu: Saint Valentine’s. A day for lovers!
Vegetta: And on Valentine’s Day, we have to go look for women.
Rubius: Women?
Luzu: Or men, anyone can–
Vegetta: People can look for whatever they want.
Rubius: Whatever they want, yes... And we can go after other Karmaland members? [He stares longingly at Vegetta]
Vegetta: [Oblivious] You know what– it could even be a nun!
Rubius: Ah. Yeah, a nun would be ok…
Luzu: [Laughs in disbelief]
Vegetta: And marry her.
Luzu: [Laughs] Rubius sad.
Rubius: [Laughs]
Luzu: [Cracks up laughing]
Vegetta: What happened, what happened? I didn’t catch it.
Rubius: Nothing, nothing– [Starts thanking subs & donos]
Luzu: [Dying]
Vegetta: What happened? I didn’t catch it, I didn't catch it!
Rubius: [Continues thanking subs & donos]
Vegetta: ...What happened?
Luzu: Nothing, I’m actually just Luzu sad–* I dunno why I’ve been laughing so much today, lord. I'm just gonna- I'm moving to this corner–
* Luzu was in his "evil Luzu" arc at the time, since this was after he lost the Karmaland election and was betrayed by someone he cares about, so technically he was breaking character here.
Cuando intentas ser posesivo con tu ex pero ya le das cringe (?
Negación, el primer paso para recuperar a tu ser amado después de un divorcio (?
GIRLS!!! ∩^ω^∩