Since The Vees Can Spy On The Hazbin Hotel Gang From Those Cameras, Do You Think Theres Also Hidden Cameras

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Nightmare sans by Jokublog

I love Hazbin Hotel! finished all episodes and rewatched it again. Animation is good but some of the story are quite rushed. Whats your thoughts? do you think it’s too fast paced? they should really make it 11 episodes for one season lol

Yeah!! I’ve rewatched quite a few times with different friends lol

I agree, I find the plot itself is a bit rushed and would’ve done better with more buildup for the arcs and such- and the songs, while absolute bangers, don’t exactly line up with what we’ve been shown.

“Out of Love” for example is an amazing song that I’d listen to over and over, but put in the context of the show it doesn’t quite fit- it’s meant to be Camila guiding Vaggie to a different way of thinking to defeat angels, and it does that well, but the problem is that Vaggie’s thinking doesn’t match what Camila initially thinks it is.

She says that Vaggie is “out for vengeance”, when really she’s not- not at all were we led to believe Vaggie was fighting for anything other than Charlie in the first place because we’ve never seen her as a vengeful character. Based on the show itself, it would make more sense that Vaggie is already fighting for love because the whole reason she’s even talking to Camila is for Charlie and the hotel, yet the song would assume otherwise.

As another example; the Vee’s part in the finale doesn’t quite make sense, even under the pretence of them not knowing Alastor is still alive.

They speak of a power vacuum, which would be a completely fair assumption if Lucifer wasn’t also on the hotel’s side. Plus, Alastor was already gone for seven years, why wasn’t there a power vacuum then if there’s one now?

Hazbin Hotel would’ve likely been better paced if they didn’t reveal Adam’s true intentions to the audience so soon, have the idea of “is it possible to redeem a sinner at all?” brewing as the main focus for a little bit more, as it would allow for more character focused episodes.

As a side note: it probably would’ve been really cool if Adam was revealed to be genocidal near the end of season one, and possibly make a gateway into the main plot of season two being defense against the excorists.

I honestly wouldn’t mind if there were a few filler episodes as well, in the sense of them attempting to or actually improving as the series went on since it lets us, the viewer, get more attached to the characters at a slower pace and truly get to know them. They don’t necessarily need to do practice exercises every episode, but every now and then would be nice (again, under the pretext of Hazbin season one ranging much more than 8 episodes).

A few filler episodes might’ve also allowed us to witness more world building at a slower pace if the hotel group went to different areas within the Pride Ring as a sort of field trip.

Another issue is that without the pilot we have no idea where these characters came from, why they’re in the hotel, or even why they “agreed” to help at all- and considering the pilot isn’t considered entirely canon anymore that’s quite a big problem.

It feels like as if we’ve missed an entire episode if you watch the series without the pilot- and yes starting shows like this is possible and it works, but considering what we had in the pilot already explained to us where they came from and their initial intentions, they probably should have incorporated at least some of it into episode one. Many people who find Hazbin for the first time will not know there’s a pilot on youtube if they only scroll on Amazon. Because of this, they would be missing key factors of the characters and their initial introduction for the rest of the show.

Overall, I think Hazbin Hotel was great song-wise and absolutely amazing animation-wise, but the writing should’ve been more character focused. As one of my friends said to me: Vivzie’s strength is in character writing and allowing the characters to move the plot, not the plot moving the characters.

But we also have to keep in mind that creating a new show on a streaming platform no doubt has quite a few restraints, and many of these problems could’ve come from that- and if this is true, then hopefully now that Hazbin has done so well they’ll be able to better stretch out future episodes and make seasons longer. This is also under the assumption that Hazbin Hotel will be much longer than two seasons, though.

Helluva boss animation can be compared to some other cartoons made by big networks in terms of overall quality even it is "just" a youtube indie series! And that got me thinking… How is every Helluva boss episode funded? Is having a big fanbase can make you rich and famous?

I honestly have very little knowledge of how they get funded or how the industry works, but I'd assume the official merch they sell helps a lot! The fanbase also probably helps a lot since, correct me if I'm wrong, youtube's system monetizes based on views

Whiteboard doodles! <3

What is your opinion on human characters from Helluva Boss? they all seem unlikeable except for Mrs. Mayberry

I don’t fully have an opinion on them, but I don’t like them in the sense you’re not supposed to like them.

They’re all intentionally written as extremely dumb and dislikable to pass as comedy, which is funny sometimes, but it makes it seem like there’s not a single threat to the imps as they traverse Earth (which is fine, but we also know the Truth Seekers might come back as main antagonists based on their previous exit but even they were complete pushovers)

I think the only humans I can remember off the top of my head that weren’t complete idiots were from the same episode as Ms. Mayberry. She’s also the only sinner we see actually celebrate the successful job with IMP afterward (I wouldn’t fully count Loopty Goopy and Lyle Lipton as “celebrating” with the cast afterward, they were happy and sharing laughs yes but they didn’t throw a party with them or anything).

Another Staticmoth whiteboard with @handfulofmoss and @coen290 <3

We're all incredibly silly.

His design sounded so cool I whipped out the pencil crayons i haven’t touched in at least a year 💪💪

Based on a really cool awesome fic you should read called “For the Forgotten Ones” by Im_Sorry_Buddy!

I had no idea if they had a set-in-stone shipname so I bring forth the idea of calling them “Luyan”! I just think it sounds cute :>

Yanqing x Luka doodle based on the photo of Hero and Mari from OMORI!

It's fluff if I call it a fluff

hes- hes a little funky, a tiny bit (very) silly