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3 months ago

Do you have any thoughts about the Love square Ship? I just realized that a huge reason why they are happening is because they are 'fated to be together' just cuz they're ladybug and chat noir. Aren't the writers shooting themselves on their feet? 'Cause it just means that Adrienette only love each other because they're LadyNoir.

The love square has fallen into a trope I like to call the Sk8er Boi trap. This is a reference to the opening question of Avril Lavigne's famous song:

He was a boy She was a girl Can I make it any more obvious?

Yes. Yes you can make it more obvious! I'm not going to ship these two based on gender alone! Give them depth! Give them substance! Make me care.

To be fair, Miraculous didn't start this way. The first two seasons of the show did a decent job setting up the crushes. It wasn't amazing, but it was enough to see the potential, especially when you paired it with the fun of identity shenanigans. Those early seasons also felt like a promise that more depth would come with time as is typical in a slow burn.

Instead, as time went on, the crushes became ever more superficial because the show has committed to maintaining a status quo that doesn't allow for a deep, meaningful romance. Without that depth to really sell the ship, Miraculous is relying on the audience shipping the love square because Adrien and Marinette are the endgame couple and that's about it. The quality of the relationship doesn't matter. All that matters is that the show says that they're meant to be. It's disappointing, but annoyingly common.

For reasons beyond my understanding, there is a decent subset of the population who are happy to play this game. If the writing says, "these two are meant to be," then this audience is happy accept that no matter how little substance the couple has. Heck, they'll ship couples that are straight up toxic!

The audience in question seems to be here for the drama and the passion, not the love and depth. Give them twists that come out of no where! Give them ridiculous miscommunication! Give them poor characterization! They'll take it all so long as it's shocking and dramatic. I don't get it, but it's not a fringe preference. It's straight up popular right now. Couples like this dominate mainstream romance, YA, NA, and romantasy. They're all obsessed with drama over depth, but that's the opposite of what I want. I will take depth over drama every day.

My ideal romance is a cute boring couple made interesting by the extraordinary circumstances they're dealing with. I thought that's what the love square was going to be, but I have given up on that hope. It started to really die in season four and season five straight up killed it.

You'd think that a show aimed at kids would be free of unhealthy romances since there are a lot of topics a Y-7 show can't touch, but apparently not! Season five's love square feels like it's an awkward, kiddified version of the kind of trends that have made me avoid mainstream Romance, YA, New Adult, and Romantasy for the past few years. Every book I've tried made me rage (insert reductive "are the allos okay" joke here). So, to answer your question:

Aren't the writers shooting themselves in their feet?

Not really. They're not writing a deep nuanced romance, but they are writing the type of frustrating, drama-laden romance that some people adore. As long as a subset of those people are willing to watch Miraculous, the show will be successful. I don't get it, but Goodreads has shown me that people love this shit, so I'm stuck waiting for the current trends to die off or for a new genre to pop up that leans towards what I like. Such is life. It's not like there's nothing good out there. It's just harder to find since it's not on trend right now. Plus there's always fanfic! That's my main source of romance. I look for other things in original fiction.

3 months ago
Pink Moon.

pink moon.

3 months ago

I was today years old when I learned that when you type "otp: true" in AO3 search results it filters out fics with additional ships, leaving only the fics where your otp is the main ship

I Was Today Years Old When I Learned That When You Type "otp: True" In AO3 Search Results It Filters
3 months ago

there’s a decent amt of neurologists who’ve called the sleep schedules we’re obligated to be on despite flagrant conflict with our natural circadian rhythms “borderline torture” and the work hours we’re expected to put in despite the fact that the average person can only maintain maximal efficiency and focus for 3 hours at a time “nearly inhumane” and i think about that a lot

3 months ago

i wanted to ask you….

/gets down on one knee

can our ocs hang out

3 months ago

how to draw horses(for the discerning horse girl)

i spent two years working in barns to give you this information. use it wisely

How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)

view all 16 parts under the cut!

How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)
How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)
How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)
How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)
How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)
How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)
How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)
How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)
How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)
How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)
How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)
How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)
How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)
How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)
How To Draw Horses(for The Discerning Horse Girl)

hopefully this guide will inspire you to draw the cowboys you've always dreamed of

3 months ago

things i did that forced me to be a better artist:

used a reference for everything

thinner line art (you think thats thin? go thinner….)

sketch, then do a cleaner sketch, THEN start finalizing

THUMBNAILS

color research, picking a set palette or light/dark for each work

you like that pose? redo it one more time

USE A DAMN REFERENCE

do not rely on stylization as an excuse for anatomy

draw the goddamn background you coward

just draw the hand- a bad hand is better than a hidden hand

the rule of thirds WORKS

take a considerable break between sketch and lines/paint

know that art takes longer as you get better at it

draw the seams on clothes

stop aiming for accuracy and focus on fluidity and motion, accuracy will come with practice of those two concepts

just…do the chiaroscuro. just DO IT. no excuses it always works

stop making excuses, make yourself an art schedule/set weekly(or daily) art goals and just DO IT.

Things I Did That Forced Me To Be A Better Artist:
3 months ago
My Piece From The Farewell To The Falls Show At Gallery Nucleus! Thanks Again For Asking Me To Be A Part

My piece from the Farewell to the Falls show at Gallery Nucleus! Thanks again for asking me to be a part of the show, guys! 

3 months ago

in almost every other children's book where the main heroine is swept away to a land of whimsy she's shown having a lovely time; braving dangers occasionally, trying to find her way home, sure, but ultimately delighting in the magic around her. meanwhile alice spends her entire time in wonderland like

In Almost Every Other Children's Book Where The Main Heroine Is Swept Away To A Land Of Whimsy She's
3 months ago

your scent processing being so close to memory in your brain is insane sometimes you step outside and take a whiff and go "ah, it smells like playing pokemon emerald in my third grade afterschool program in the crisp september of 2006"

3 months ago
Season 6 Celebratory Dance Party 🕺

season 6 celebratory dance party 🕺

3 months ago
Félix Is My Favorite Meme 💞

Félix is my favorite meme 💞

Félix Is My Favorite Meme 💞
Félix Is My Favorite Meme 💞
Félix Is My Favorite Meme 💞
Félix Is My Favorite Meme 💞
Félix Is My Favorite Meme 💞
3 months ago
I Had A Nice Thought Today !!!
I Had A Nice Thought Today !!!
I Had A Nice Thought Today !!!

i had a nice thought today !!!

3 months ago
I Was Asked By A Friend Yesterday If I Could Offer Basic Tips About Comic Paneling. As It Turns Out,
I Was Asked By A Friend Yesterday If I Could Offer Basic Tips About Comic Paneling. As It Turns Out,
I Was Asked By A Friend Yesterday If I Could Offer Basic Tips About Comic Paneling. As It Turns Out,
I Was Asked By A Friend Yesterday If I Could Offer Basic Tips About Comic Paneling. As It Turns Out,
I Was Asked By A Friend Yesterday If I Could Offer Basic Tips About Comic Paneling. As It Turns Out,
I Was Asked By A Friend Yesterday If I Could Offer Basic Tips About Comic Paneling. As It Turns Out,
I Was Asked By A Friend Yesterday If I Could Offer Basic Tips About Comic Paneling. As It Turns Out,
I Was Asked By A Friend Yesterday If I Could Offer Basic Tips About Comic Paneling. As It Turns Out,
I Was Asked By A Friend Yesterday If I Could Offer Basic Tips About Comic Paneling. As It Turns Out,

I was asked by a friend yesterday if I could offer basic tips about comic paneling. As it turns out, I have a lot to say on the matter! I tried breaking down the art of paneling using the principles of art and design, and I hope it helps you out!

EDIT: uh uh there are a lot of people reblogging this, so i figure i may as well append this now while i can lol

This whole thing was very much cranked out in a few hours so I had a visual to talk about with a friend! If this gives you a base understanding of paneling, that's awesome! Continue to pull in studies from the comics you see and what other artists do well and don't do well! You can tell paneling is doing well when the action is flowing around in its intended reading format.

Here's the link to the globalcomix article from which I pulled the images about panel staggering! Someone sent in a reblog that it wasn't totally clear that the 7th slide mostly covers what NOT to do in regards to staggering, and that is my mistake!

I saw in a tag that someone was surprised I used MamaYuyu too, and I don't blame them lol. If I had given myself more than a couple hours maybe I would have added something else on, I just really admire MamaYuyu's paneling personally.

uh uh, final append: I am by no means a renowned master of paneling, so if you find anything off base here, by all means, counter it with your own knowledge and ways you can build upon from here! Art is always a sum knowledge of everything we find. 💪

3 months ago
😮😾

😮😾

3 months ago

first page of this mini cat cafe date comic !! =^-^=

First Page Of This Mini Cat Cafe Date Comic !! =^-^=

posting page 2 soon !!! ♡

3 months ago
This Episode Changed My Life

This episode changed my life

3 months ago
I Have To Finally Learn To Knit Just To Do This Pattern By StarcrossedKnits
I Have To Finally Learn To Knit Just To Do This Pattern By StarcrossedKnits
I Have To Finally Learn To Knit Just To Do This Pattern By StarcrossedKnits
I Have To Finally Learn To Knit Just To Do This Pattern By StarcrossedKnits

i have to finally learn to knit just to do this pattern by StarcrossedKnits

3 months ago

what is THE worst thing you've ever drank. all liquids acceptable. please tell me what it was, bonus points for why

3 months ago
Made These For Pencil Case Designs! C:
Made These For Pencil Case Designs! C:
Made These For Pencil Case Designs! C:

made these for pencil case designs! c:

☆ can be found here

3 months ago
I Found God In A Hopeless Place

I found god in a hopeless place

3 months ago
Pt 3! Broganes Mean Everything To Me
Pt 3! Broganes Mean Everything To Me
Pt 3! Broganes Mean Everything To Me
Pt 3! Broganes Mean Everything To Me
Pt 3! Broganes Mean Everything To Me
Pt 3! Broganes Mean Everything To Me
Pt 3! Broganes Mean Everything To Me
Pt 3! Broganes Mean Everything To Me
Pt 3! Broganes Mean Everything To Me
Pt 3! Broganes Mean Everything To Me

pt 3! broganes mean everything to me

3 months ago
Young Broganes Sketches Bc I Love Them So Intensely. You Guys Don't Understand How Much Broganes Means
Young Broganes Sketches Bc I Love Them So Intensely. You Guys Don't Understand How Much Broganes Means

young broganes sketches bc I love them so intensely. you guys don't understand how much broganes means to me I love them so much I cry abt them. there's a reason the black paladins is my fave episode and I rewatch it all the time. gosh here comes the waterworks again.

3 months ago
"COooooOlllll!" I've Been Rewatching Pokémon: Indigo League—it's The Only One I Ever Got To Watch
"COooooOlllll!" I've Been Rewatching Pokémon: Indigo League—it's The Only One I Ever Got To Watch
"COooooOlllll!" I've Been Rewatching Pokémon: Indigo League—it's The Only One I Ever Got To Watch

"COooooOlllll!" I've been rewatching Pokémon: Indigo League—it's the only one I ever got to watch when I was younger, so I'm hoping to eventually watch the whole series. But from what I hear, it’s going to take me a while to catch up, lol.

This was inspired by Team Rocket dress-up as gyaru girls in the SS Anne episode...totally cracked me up!

---- Also, Wow, Tumblr. It's been a while… Felt a bit nostalgic and wanted to give posting here another shot. I really miss how productive I used to be when I was active here.

3 months ago
This Joke Doesn't Work If You Use The Default Tumblr Theme, Sorry.

This joke doesn't work if you use the default tumblr theme, sorry.

3 months ago
Overshoots And Mini Anticipations Lecture From My Complete Introduction To 2D Animation Package.
Overshoots And Mini Anticipations Lecture From My Complete Introduction To 2D Animation Package.
Overshoots And Mini Anticipations Lecture From My Complete Introduction To 2D Animation Package.
Overshoots And Mini Anticipations Lecture From My Complete Introduction To 2D Animation Package.
Overshoots And Mini Anticipations Lecture From My Complete Introduction To 2D Animation Package.
Overshoots And Mini Anticipations Lecture From My Complete Introduction To 2D Animation Package.
Overshoots And Mini Anticipations Lecture From My Complete Introduction To 2D Animation Package.
Overshoots And Mini Anticipations Lecture From My Complete Introduction To 2D Animation Package.
Overshoots And Mini Anticipations Lecture From My Complete Introduction To 2D Animation Package.
Overshoots And Mini Anticipations Lecture From My Complete Introduction To 2D Animation Package.

Overshoots and Mini Anticipations lecture from my Complete Introduction to 2D animation package.

https://gumroad.com/l/Introto2DComplete or you can buy each chapters, or my other tutorials: https://gumroad.com/stringbing

3 months ago

“If Chloe caused Marinette’s trauma, then why they’ve United to humiliate Kagami in “Animaestro”?

To be fair, I’ve read a post which was written a long time ago where one user said that Marinette uniting with Chloe to do the same things to Kagami that Chloe was doing to Marinette for years was Out Of Character for her. And this was before the first draft of infamous “Derision” was ever written…

Two things can be true at once. You can criticize Animaestro in the context canon has put it in while also agreeing that it and Derision don't fit the narrative and basically have to be discarded to make any sense of canon. I take both of these stances and will happily explain them.

If Derision was "always the plan," then Animaestro's writing choices make the writers look extra terrible as it means that they had no issues making their lead put another person through the same kind of traumatizing humiliation that she'd gone through herself. Even worse, Marinette inflicts that trauma by willing joining up with the instigator of her own trauma, never once stopping to wonder if this is too far. She's too obsessed with her crush to care about another person's suffering. It's perfectly reasonable to look at these two moments and come away hating her. It's even reasonable to just hate her after Animaestro. That wasn't a good look.

Even if Derision wasn't always the plan, the writers still wrote it after writing Animaestro, not caring how that choice would effect people's view of Marinette's actions. It's not reasonable to expect your audience to disregard one episode in favor of another. People aren't being unfair for taking these two episodes at face value.

If you want to tell a good story, you have to own what you've already written and allow that to limit what ideas work for your story no matter how good they are in a vacuum. Animaestro and Derision are just generally a bad episodes, but they should never coexist unless Marinette is supposed to be seen as a bad person OR Marinette is getting a complex arc around overcoming her trauma and Adrien obsession. It is perfectly fair to ask why we're not getting either of those since the writers chose to make all of this mess canon.

However, I also agree that Marinette's actions in Animaestro are just generally not suited to her character. The show did a terrible job of writing Marinette and Kagami's cat fight over Adrien. Because every conflict had to be established and resolved in 20-minutes or less, Marinette was constantly coming up with random petty, unflattering, and downright insane takes on Kagami. It made Marinette come across like a total mean girl in several season three episodes which sucks when you consider the way the conflict was played in season two. Episodes like Frozer allowed Marinette to have a good balance of jealously and being a good person making her feel realistic, but not a petty mean girl.

In Frozer, Marinette sent Adrigami on a date to the ice rink and went along to help Adrien even though her girl friends told her to back out:

Alya: This is gonna be your worst mess up in history. You have got to get yourself out of this right now. Ideas girls! Quick! Alix: Tell him you'd already promised to hang with your GFs. Rose: Maybe you got lost on the way over? Juleka: Maybe you're gonna go to a concert? Mylène: You had to finish an essay on Periwinkle's migration. Marinette: Actually, girls... I don't think I want to cancel. All Girls: Huh? Marinette: Adrien really needs me and if he wants my advice then why not? After all, it's not an issue and I'm definitely not jealous because... Rose: Because you two love each other. Marinette: Because there's nothing between us. (looks down sadly) Alya: What do you mean nothing between you? Mylène: There's everything between you, actually. Marinette: I always jumble my words around him. So how could I even manage going out on a date? I think we're actually just meant to be friends. Whenever I talk to him as a friend, I hardly stammer at all. That's a sign right there. Right?

And when they were at the rink, Marinette gave Adrien actual good advice:

Adrien: I don't know what to do about Kagami. Should I offer to hold her hand? Marinette: You have to let her fall. Adrien: Huh? Marinette: No, what I actually meant was that you cannot let her fall in any way. I mean, do whatever you can so that she doesn't fall.

If you have to include a petty fight over a boy, this a decent way to do it. Show Marinette struggling, but ultimately doing the right thing. Acknowledge the temptation to sabotage the date, but let her be a good person in the end. Don't go the Animaestro route which makes Marinette come across as both awful and delusional:

Marinette: I'm not too sure about this. Chloé: Fine! Keep on not being sure about it and tomorrow, Adrien and Kagami will be on a plane headed for Japan! Marinette: Adrien? Japan? There's no way! Chloé: You think? They're already going to the movies together, their parents are signing papers together. (camera zooms in on Mrs. Tsurugi in the background, stamping a document with her signature) Marinette: (imagines Adrien and Kagami on a plane and dancing with kimonos on) We can't let her do that!

The fact that Marinette agrees to sabotage Kagami could be overlooked if she stopped herself before actually doing anything. We all have bad moments. But she doesn't stop. She spends a good chunk of the episode working with Chloé and there is no defense for that. Marinette is absolutely in the wrong here.

We can acknowledge that while also acknowledging that Marinette's actions also don't make any sense in the same timeline as Frozer which happened a full season before Animaestro. In both episodes, Adrien is on a date with Kagami. Why is Marinette willing to be the better person in one situation and not the other? What changed? Why was she better on an actual date than she was on what is arguably a friend-date where Adrien is just being Kagami's escort? Why was Marinette able to push aside her friends telling her to bail on date one - reasonable advice - while being totally susceptible to Chloé's insane advice that they should sabotage date two?

There is no in-universe answer and that's why I'm willing to agree that this episode just generally shouldn't exist. It adds nothing to the story and is a poor choice when you look at where this plot started and where it ends. We go from supportive Marinette in Frozer to sabotaging Marinette in Animaestro to supportive Marinette in Hearhunter, which has Marinette once again supporting Adrigami on a date:

André: Which flavors for these two? [Kagami and Adrien] Orange and peppermint, a perfect pairing that's always a success; nothing can turn it into a mess. And for you two [Adrien and Marinette] blackberry and peppermint, an explosive mix that's a fact but often times it's the opposites that attract. Orange and blackberry, quite unusual it's true not the most obvious but it works for you two. So what will it be? Kagami: You pick. I don't really get what he's saying anyway. Adrien: Yeah, you pick, Marinette. We trust you. Marinette: Can't you find a blend for the three of us? André: I can, but too many flavors mixed together may throw off the delicate balance. Marinette: I don't know. Blackberry and peppermint doesn't seem like a great pair. And what if the mint finds the blackberry lame and wants to be with the orange instead? And it's true that orange and peppermint are awesome together and well orange and blackberry just doesn't seem like they go together. (looks at Kagami and Adrien together, walks up to André) Look I think your first idea was the best. The orange and peppermint ice cream for.. for my friends here. André (concerned) Are you sure Marinette? (she nods, Adrien approaches cart) Marinette (walks away and speaks to Kagami) I'm gonna head back to the palace. I told my parents I'd bring them back those cocktail umbrellas.

And, yes, Marinette does mess up the date by getting Kagami to help in the day's akuma fight, but that's way more in line with her Frozer behavior than her Animaestro behavior because it's not petty jealousy. Marinette didn't come up with a way to mess up the date. She was going to let it happen until the akuma attack, which had already messed up the date anyway. That's a far more complex and nuanced way to play the conflict. It's not the actions of a mean girl. Where did Animaestro-Marinette go?

The only way to make Animaestro fit in a functional character arc is to have to come at the start. You don't put an episode like this or Ikari Gozen after Frozer. That's just bad writing. I'd even argue that Animaestro is a bad fit in general because you don't need to take Marinette that far to give her a solid arc around "sisters before misters."

While Ikari Gozen has its own issues, it has Marinette being more avoidant than mean, which is about as far as I'd take her. There is no reason to make her sink to Chloé's level. It just makes Marinette look bad for no good reason, especially when Chloé is right there, able to take the villain role on her own! It's glaringly obvious that this episode only plays the way it does because of the stupid "Marinette must always do something wrong" rule and not because of some greater story reason. Without that rule, Animaestro could have been a perfectly fine episode where Chloé acted on her own, leading Marinette to realize how bad it is to let jealousy drive your actions, which would have been a wonderful lesson!

The "Marinette's character has to be warped so she's always in the wrong" rule is why I can get pretty defensive of Marinette. It's not that I think her actions are okay, they're often 100% not, they're just also clearly writing issues and not intentional character beats. I'd feel very different if Marinette's worst moments were ongoing flaws or part of a character arc, but they're not. They're generally one-off moments that could be removed from the story and no one would notice. Marinette doesn't even learn anything in Animaestro!!! She never apologizes for what she did or anything like that. The best we get is:

Marinette: I promise I'll never take Chloé's advice again!

Which is not the right lesson here!!! Everything about this episode is so frustrating! Marinette should be able learn lessons without having to be the one to mess up, damn it!

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