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When I see people saying that Jiang Cheng and Lan Xichen had bad endings…

I’m honestly confused. Because the context of the novel makes it very clear they will have a happy future and ending, all things considered, by how it reveals the parent who was in a similar situation and their fates being so strongly contrasting.

Which is to say, Yu Ziyuan and Qingheng-Jun are dead. Jiang Cheng and Lan Xichen are alive.

By being alive, by having the chance to learn and grow from their mistakes, they can earn their way to a happy ending. They can’t have one immediately. They are reaping what they sowed; Jiang Cheng spent years under a delusion and operating on anger alone (though he did his best to moderate himself around Jin Ling) and Lan Xichen put his trust and faith in the absolutely wrong person and spent years in an abusive relationship.

Yes, abusive relationship. Doesn’t even have to be romantic for it to be abusive in nature. We see Lan Xichen being gaslit by Jin Guangyao, we see him constantly lie to him, and we see how he’s harmed him in many ways with what he did. Lan Xichen has to come to terms with that.

Jiang Cheng unburdens himself, lets go of a relationship that became toxic for him and in particular for Wei Wuxian, and is mentioned to have interfered with Jin Sect to help Jin Ling. In the past, as early as the Cloud Recesses arc, Jiang Cheng was someone who never rocked the boat and went with the whole of society to avoid getting (negative) attention. The fact he’s able to do that, to avoid too much of a fuss when he meets Wen Ning on a night-hunt, that means Jiang Cheng is putting work into things. It’s getting better.

Lan Xichen certainly goes into seclusion, but it’s more for his mental health and dealing with things. “Seclusion” actually has like three meanings (at the least) in the original language from what I know; closed door training, seclusion as in mental retreat, and seclusion for punishment. Lan Xichen isn’t punishing himself, he’s taking time away from society. And not so much that he avoids a family banquet! He might be absentminded because of everything, but he still showed up so that’s the sign of hope we need that things will get better.

In comparison, we got the parents.

Yu Ziyuan in the novel is 100% an antagonistic force. She never avoids being a poison in others lives. It’s only at the end of her life that we clearly see her softness that is hidden by all the poison barbed spines around her. And even then it’s shadowed by her irrational hate of Wei Wuxian. But we see through how Zidian recognizes Jiang Fengmian that a part of her did trust her husband at least and likely wanted a better relationship. But she dies and so that glimpse comes to nothing.

Minor thing to keep in mind; CQL!Yu Ziyuan is not the same character as MDZS!Yu Ziyuan. I am not talking about CQL!Yu Ziyuan who also was hit by the censor stick of no grey morality same as Jiang Cheng.

Qingheng-Jun is absolutely not there in the novel, only showing up in how people describe him. He’s alive but firmly in seclusion as a form of punishment during Cloud Recesses arc. When he does leave – and I’m sure he did because by the old work sheets Lan Wangji has in the Jingshi (per Banquet extra) not all of Cloud Recesses burned, likely just the main areas like the Library Pavilion and Lanshi – he dies in a fight. He leaves only to die, leaves likely to protect his people and his sons, and he dies in battle.

So yeah, it doesn’t seem like it’s a flat out happy ending. And it isn’t. Everyone outside of the juniors, Wen Ning, and WangXian haven’t yet earned their happy ending yet. They have to put the work in first.

But they are alive and capable of putting the work in. Isn’t that a good ending for them?

Zewu-jun, do you know who this person is?

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lwj is almost as guilty for all the things jc is criticised for

Everyone is guilty for all the things Jiang Cheng is constantly criticized for. Torturing cultivators? Check. Not helping the Wen remnants? Check. Not standing by Wei Wuxian? Check. Shouting? Check. Lying? Check. Being an asshole at some point in their life? Absolutely check.

Everyone jokes around about the Lan’s Silencing Spell, including myself, but um, using your sect’s magical coercion spell to silence someone else’s voice multiple times is actually kind of fucked up? Nobody says anything about the Lans and Nies being equally, if not more so, complicit in what ends up happening with the Wens and Wei Wuxian, but it’s still Jiang Cheng who gets the most criticism, and I will never be okay with this.

Hell, Wei Wuxian himself committed pretty much all of these! As much as we love Wei Wuxian for his endlessly giving heart, we should keep in mind that he also didn’t do anything about the Wens until Wen Qing and Wen Ning were involved. That isn’t a criticism. That is just the nature of the society and culture that they live in, where blood feuds are a thing and wiping out a clan who killed your family is simply an equal and just exchange regardless of individual involvement. Wei Wuxian committed a massive cultural taboo for helping the Wen remnants. That isn’t to say he shouldn’t have helped, or that everyone isn’t complicit in the death of a bunch of villagers who were trying to move on, but that responsibility and criticism certainly shouldn’t only land squarely on Jiang Cheng’s shoulders.

Especially when Jiang Cheng was still little more than a child himself. The Jiang sect was completely wiped out. Jiang Cheng was barely holding onto any political power as it is. They were being intentionally left out of political meetings by the other three sects. They were extremely vulnerable to being swallowed up and becoming subsidiary to the Jin sect. Jiang Cheng had an immense responsibility to his people who walked with him through war when he had nothing to offer them at time other than his word, and part of that responsibility was to not go around pissing off your next door neighbors who had a hell of a lot more power than you do at the moment.

And amidst of all this, Jiang Cheng was being actively lied to the entire time! He couldn’t possibly have known that Wei Wuxian, his genius cultivator shixiong, no longer had a golden core, whose only option was now demonic cultivation and who was neck deep in a veritable thunderstorm of trauma and self-hatred. Especially when Wei Wuxian was constantly telling him he was fine. Especially when Wei Wuxian was doing everything he could to make sure Jiang Cheng could never know the truth. While I do think Jiang Cheng was wrong about what options were available to him, I personally think he was the least obligated out of everyone to help.

You know whose sects didn’t get wiped out? Who still had political power and was actually at the table when the remaining Wens and labor camps were being discussed? Who still had experienced disciples and opinionated elders? Who had at least much more experience navigating the complicated web of political manipulations than Jiang Cheng? The Lans. The Nies. Both equally capable of putting a stop to Jin Guangshan. Both equally responsible for the murders of a bunch of villagers. Both absolutely one hundred percent more obligated to do so and in a position where it was possible than Jiang Cheng was.

But sure, let’s freaking blame the traumatized teenager whose family and sect were slaughtered for not being able to help.

The sign of high quality is the fact the book was banned by the government. Trash literature NEVER EVER had any troubles with the law.

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