Im Do Tired Of This Convo. He Is Basically A Mulatto If He Isnt In The Sun He Is Lighter And If He Is

I love how the script they read from is like right in front of them, but its radio so people can't see it but then they post these videos and they hold the script the entire time.

jongin talking about his supportive parents

Perfect Blue (1997) dir. Satoshi Kon

Social engineering and the kpop industry or Twin Theory

I’m not sure depends on how I’m feeling tommorrow. Definitely wanna start on one or the other by tommorrow. Twin theory is halfway done but I’m sure people will actually think I’m insane, but idc I’m bored and what’s the alternative talking about what everyone else is talking about no ty.

If I saw this where I lived Starbucks green matcha brown sugar latte you'd be gone.

No problem, but in my rambling, I was trying to be as polite as possible; I'm implying most kpop fandom works have the depth of a shallow pool. Besides blind praise that I don't feel most of it deserves, I really wouldn't have anything else to say. I was never rude to anyone, ever--they were simply reactive to me asking basic questions about the stories, which they couldn't answer. There are some fandom works I love, but there is no room to have a genuine conversation anymore. The artists are too sensitive to take basic level questions. I wouldn't waste my time critiquing a fan comic or fic that doesn't possess even simple plot structure. The rare times I have simply asked a worldbuilding question, the people get so offended not because I'm rude but they barely know what worldbuilding is. My writing or art isn't perfect, far from it. But the other fandoms I participated in left room for someone to call out stuff, or analyze. In this fandom specifically it's hard to do that because it's not that deep. I want to in my spare time, when I'm in the mood for exo content, to give someone who writes a good story a long comment. Maybe even ask a few questions, but it's a catch 22 situation. I understand exo fandom creators want their fandom back. I get that. I'd love more funny original exo content, but it's a different climate now. Somehow the one direction fandom is still making fanworks that get attention and get made into movies. But I just don't ever remember Anna Todd freaking out, because somebody asked her, why she put ab or c in her story. It wasn't a great story, but any critique good or bad she accepted rewrote and published it. And people who could read it for free still bought it, cause it's about respect. Respect is mutual. I would never blast someone else's story or anything like that. But many writers or even people making jokes, say things that are pretty far out, yet if you even slightly question it--you should just go somewhere else. No, I don't think asking an author what they want to hear is appropriate, it's not. If they wanted their comments or replies turned off to avoid noise they could easily do that.

Also by critique, besides me just telling the author my plain opinion, like I like the story structure, the characterization, pacing, descriptions? Or in terms of art, you can't say anything about anybody's art online, so I don't. I just heart what I like and keep moving. Fanart can be good, but a lot of it just isn't.

Creativity makes more of a mark than perfect digital art. Nothing feels handmade anymore or has passion. People can sense that. Again I'm not judging or saying I can do better, I am just being honest.

and to show a proper example here is a comment I once left.

I will blot out the author name and the character name. Usually I rarely comment. I don't feel like digging through all my old profiles to find more. I can compliment a creator all day, but many don't have much to say. Which is fine, but this author in particular, really really wanted people to comment. I felt bad so I did. It feels like they want comments so their work will seem popular more than they want to create a good story.

This was not a bad interaction it just felt like a pointless one, is this the type of response people want? In the past even teen romance writers had more substance. In the end I just feel like this works when a fandom is full of very young people who are happy with pointless conversations, but mature people want something real to talk about.

I wish y'all good luck though, hopefully some of what I and others said can help the way creators choose to interact with their audience in the future.

I Have a (few) question(s) for Exol.

I'm genuinely curious as to the answers, so if you see this could you please do me the favour of signal boosting this so it reaches more people?

I see posts circulating now and again about lack of interaction on fandom creation posts. No one reblogs. No one comments. But I never see anyone asking why. Is it simply a matter of being in the middle of an etiquette shift? Is it crossplanted members of social media communities having different social norms? Has the way people use Tumblr shifted? Speculation only goes so far so to better understand what I'd like to know is the following:

How long have you been on Tumblr? Any fandom not just Exo.

What is your take on fan created works on Tumblr and interacting with them?

Do you have a process for what goes on your blog? How do you find most of the posts you reblog? Through the dash? Through the tags?

Do you spend time on other platforms? Have you in the past?

How do you interact with fan creations on these other platforms? Do you like comment or share? Do you re-tweet? Etc.

When was the last fic of any length (drabble and blurbs and headcanons/reactions included) you read? Last time you saw fanart (including edits and moodboards and graphics) you enjoyed?

Did you reblog it?

If yes you did reblog did you say anything about it? Simple or otherwise? Leave a gif underneath that expressed how you felt? Put a comment in the tags? Left an emoji? Etc.

If you didn't leave commentary was there a reason? Do you feel like you start to repeat yourself when commenting? Do you think there's nothing to say? Were you following the adage if you cant say something nice dont say anything at all? Other reasons?

If no you did not reblog why? Is there a specific reason? Did you not like it and not want to say? Does it not fit your blog? Was it not a length or level of skill you felt warranted a reblog? Have your friends already seen it? Do you only post your own creations? Other reasons?

For our fan creators I have an extra question. Do you reply to your comments? Even if they're in the tags?

If no is there a reason?

Please take a moment and share your answers cause I'm trying to understand where things shifted from what they were before to now.

I really wish i could be as chill and fun when discussing jongin but the reality is the origins of my kpop journey never called for that. I only liked eggsos music for a very short period of my life and once I heard the demo tracks that ended. For some reason knowing they didnt make their hits or even contribute past one line or two just makes me feel icky. I never liked the others past the bullying years of 2012 to 2016. I also cut off kji when I felt like he was also very inauthentic. I returned out of curiosity for my research of the entertainment industry. Most artists in korea act like they are in some hybrid between the military and a gang. I just cant take it seriously. Its a hybrid between american hollywood and a dictatorship. The industry still rubs me the wrong way as apparently child protection laws and human rights in south korea are a suggestion.

In the end I comment on jongin 1 because i still do see some ...potential is the wrong word ...life maybe. He seems to have more of a soul than most in the industry. So I still check for him. Yet I wont lie or be fake. His recent projects have been god awful. Sm has ran him into the ground and dont seem like they will be stopping anytime soon. He is the most obvious case of "industry mistreatment programming" that I have ever seen. I still cringe at times seeing the toll the industry has taken on him.

I do however understand many fans are either very quiet because they just want to enjoy and relax. And others want community and friendship.

I get it. That was never my intention. I have a lot of perspectives on jongin and his career and I feel like sometimes I should keep them to myself..but then other times I feel like thats very unfair.

Online their are people that write very objectifying, dirty vile things about him but that is okay cause they are being quirky...

But if you talk about sprituality, souls, diets, genetics, chi magic, face yoga, spritual contracts ect or connecting things to the occult thats too far.

No its not. The lies are too far.

I just don't vibe with the lies anymore. And what is going on all over the internet about him the group, kpop and the entire entertainment industry is a lie.

So in my opinion as long as I have evidence for what Im saying anybody can choose whether or not they want to read or believe what Im saying. But the dumb fake arguements about literally nothing. Its a distraction. They plan things out for people to argue over so nobody every holds the company or artists or infrastructure accounatble. I cant just waste time like that anymore. I will write and make content from my perspective. Because there is nothing wrong with the truth. 99 percent of whats on the net about exo and jongin is a lie. I just cant anymore. They really take advantage of the language gap. So many people literally lying about things. Almost nothing they say is true.

I think its only fair to be transparent. I thought about creating another blog to post that stuff on but again that would just be more secrecy. There is no point. But I understand most people dont like that so at this point its just best I be honest. I like being chill but with kpop my conspiracy and investigative journalism side cant rest. I will post things of that nature from now on.

Its not all completely serious some things are simply opinions and research but those things help understand the larger picture.

Fruit-Shaped Bus Stops (1990) Location: Nagasaki, Japan

Some opinions about real person fiction.

Utterly different from fan writing based on fictional texts, fan writing with an actual image as the protagonist does not have a closed original text to draw on. A real person's fiction is a creation based on the public image presented by a celebrity. Fans construct an imagination about the star based on the stage/film and television performances, news, interviews and various gossip they have seen, and further contemplate their own stories. In a sense, the characters in real person fiction are not significantly related to real-life celebrities. Fans use the public image of stars and their own inferred interpretations to construct stories, which contain considerable selectivity and subjectivity. What fans are dealing with is not a natural person, but rather the "personality" performed by these celebrities and the imagination added and completed by fans themselves. Therefore, although readers who like real people will pay attention to various news about celebrities, they do not necessarily care about what they are like in their daily life and how their relationships are. In the final analysis, the content of the work is not accurate and often does not attempt to be true.

The characters in the real people will have similarities with actual celebrities, and such similarities may be many, making people feel that they are almost real, or there may be only a few, or even only names and some physical characteristics. While many tend to favour the legitimacy of real person fiction, they believe such works do not constitute harassment of real people. But it is undeniable that some pieces with controversial content will cause unnecessary trouble and public opinion pressure from society. For example, a blog called Kaisoo Underground on Tumblr is about the story of two EXO members who became gay. Although the protagonist has no such experience, people's speed and power of falsehood are likely to turn fictional into real in the Internet age.

There have been many years of debate about fandom practices' moral and legal issues. However, there are not many related academic discussions due to various moral constraints and ethical considerations. Generally speaking, the author's delineation of the moral boundaries in the works reflects the general impression of the idols or characters within the fan group rather than legal constraints. Real person fiction is also part of the cultural ecology of celebrities in modern society. To satisfy and maintain their fans, idols will also take the initiative to sacrifice part of their privacy, allowing fans to imagine and create accordingly. Throughout the ages, many fictional creations in the name of historical figures are essentially re-creations based on real-life image texts, such as Shakespeare's historical plays and so on.

So, if all fictional writing involving real people required the consent of real people, there would be a lot less good work and fun in literary history. It is undeniable that although many high-quality pieces of fan articles are famous in general, the overall threshold is relatively low. It has already become a popular culture that does not require academic literacy, and everyone can participate in the creation. We can't deny the value of its existence, but should there be a limit to its content and ideas when it is published on a public platform? This applies not only to real people but also to other fan works. Without effective restrictions, there is a potential for harm, both for producers and consumers.