Mind You At This Time Justin Bieber Was Doing Completely Fine In Asia. The Misinformation And Lies That

it would take a full year to put together all the sus stuff going on at sm. From the tid bit of truth that has leaked out they are trying to make it seem like a family squabble when in reality the family is trying to procure as much cash as possible sell the company then dip out never to be seen or heard from again. I feel bad for the artists who stayed out of loyalty cause sm obviously doesn't care about them. How in the world they managed to fumble one of their top artists, an ambassador for years getting to attend cruise24 is almost comical. Sm is a future documentary on industry corruption waiting to happen. It feels like the company is being run by like 12 people who dont get paid enough to care. They literally at times don't even try or if they do its so pitiful it seems like they want people to stop supporting the company and its artist it's so strange. I wonder if the company lost its favor with the Chaebols or something. Something suspicious is going on with korean ent in general though. I'll elaborate later its like 3 am rn

Also im still confused on how the enlistment blindsided them. There's something they aren't saying, then an update about not sending mail..idc that's weird, what about an update on how you literally didn't know someone had to go to the military with like a week's notice. Something just isn't right. Planning a whole comeback and that's not something they were concerned about at all. How? It doesn't make since. Why would they think he had until at least the middle of the year, what made them so sure? People dismiss the bad lying problem such a large company has. Also I am also noting how they dont really promote their artist. They spend millions on mvs and albums and then push it for a few weeks something isn't right. I get they make money off albums so why promote but that in today's fast past industry is so so small minded when there is so much money to be made with simple things like buzzfeed puppy interviews or release remixes not made by talentless people but they just..dont do it. It's odd. Very odd. Sm is weird

Like the stuff I read in these articles said by their own artists literally sound fake but it's not. They wanted to promote rover for like a week...that doesnt even make sense.

Actually the entire rover promo was weird and I'll do another post about that. Long story short it's weird that for something so highly anticipated there was little to no actual promo. Kji takes the reigns and just picks and chooses stuff he likes but that isn't a good idea. But people at s.m tbh don't really care, sure why not 40 year olds who watch Lego vids will love rover except no no they won't. He's literally painfully shy and doing stuff that he likes makes him more comfortable and that's great but at the same time they are an entertainment company all those years they cant get a coach or something for that. This company pains me.

They shelve comebacks for new groups like its nothing. While Nct has like 20 albums and 15 youtube channels but for what? There is no way in this universe nct will ever earn its keep, too many mouths to feed too many members they could be no 1 one in the world and still not break even. 7 members is hard to distribute wealth evenly even 4 member top earning groups complain about splitting money.. Then depending on the year some members may barely work at all its just so poorly thought out. Many of them don't have another career path to take some do but others dont if the group doesn't work out and they decide to Lucas them because of a scandal then what? If their family has money or a business for them to fall back on then cool but if not..even if they take the money they made and flip it they will not get the lost time back.

I was just chilling out and trying not to comment on what's going on but like I just cant this is a mess

And taeyong is finally getting a mini album like a year before he goes to the army.. after basically promoting his own self for years which now and days you have to. lets not pretend they aren't just giving him the solo to keep him in the company. It never fails they know if they don't give him what he wants he'll leave and he has the fanbase to do it. For some reason they never give the visuals of the group solos too young, if at all. they always wait until they are either injured severely or past their prime so they won't leave. They did the same thing with kai.

And ofc there's more to it than just that but this is enough for now

Why S.M. didn't sabotage EXO... at least not how you think

S.m. did not sabotage Exo. They don't sabotage any of their groups. At least not how people think they do. Sure, from the fans and artists perspectives, I definitely think they may feel like that is the case, but we don't read their contracts. Heck, they probably didn't even read their contracts. Somebody can only screw you over if you let them.

It is possible to bargain and refuse to sign a contract if you don't want to. Multiple artists have left S.M. Entertainment and decided not to renew their contracts, but Exo, 8 members of Exo, did. They decided to stay in a contract locked tight with S.M. to stay in the group Exo.

Many say they had to; they had no choice, but they did. They could have all left together. There is no excuse for why they didn't. Because of the redraft of Korean entertainment laws to combat the exact thing that CBX sued for, the Korean government gave groups like Exo an out.

Which is why I knew they could not win their lawsuit, because it is very clear. It does protect the artists but it also protects the company. If you choose to resign odds are you will not win a lawsuit. The new law is a safety vest. If you throw it away you cannot cry foul.

There are many very helpful videos about this law that exist online. Groups can leave together with all their music and their name, but only if they leave together. Most likely what happened was some wanted to leave and some wanted to stay. It is quite clear who was on those two different sides.

The law is very specific that the thing is with this situation ALL the members must leave together if they want their name and music.

That right there would be, or should be, enough to stop this false claiming of S.M. mistreating Exo. Which, honestly, is kind of comical in 2024, the difference of the meaning of that word. Actual groups are abused by their agencies, and people think a company not making a group as famous as they could be is mistreatment.

It's not. And hey, if it was, and I'll give it to you, maybe that is a crappy thing to do, to block offers and say, Nah, we're not going to make you more famous but...

They could have left; they all had the free will to leave.

Though that would mean no more S.M. promotions, no more S.M. paying for everything, and no more benefits. Do I really have to go to the s.m. website and show you all the benefits they give to their employees? I mean, it's pretty nice. Sadly, we live in a world of comparison. People are desperate to find some comparison between the haves and the have-nots. Maybe if these millionaires aren't getting the highest pay in the company, then they deserve people to rally for them.

It's like a huge victim off--who is the least privileged rich person.

it's giving

But it's not even as simple as that. S.m invests a lot of money into each artist. They made them famous, they built them up, they got them sponsorships and acting jobs, and like it or not, they got them a fandom too. From S.M.'s perspective, they made the group. I mean, fans are shallow, and they want content and fan service, which is valid. I mean, if you like a show, sure you want more seasons, but these are real people. It takes millions to get these guys a reality show, wearing fancy clothes, with makeup artists and a camera crew with a rented-out villa. On top of feeding everyone, staff, managers, producers and stylists.

Meanwhile, some groups have personal YouTube channels just hanging out. Like the comparison is not valid. Like yes, they are so oppressed they have to spend tons of money giving their fans a fancy reality show to watch and heavily scripted and edited YouTube sketches.

S.m truly hates their guts so much they let them rag on them in public and on bubble and still buy them birthday cakes lmao.

I mean, think about that: Who needs all that to hang out with their friends? People bend over backwards to make it seem like S.M. is sabotaging them with no content... like it's not hard to hang out and film it. It's not S.M.'s fault they need a script or be at a concert in order to have chemistry. Kai said himself it took him a long time to get a youtube channel because he had to organize and pay for everything. It's expensive to do what they want to do. Look perfect, have great editing and keep their image fancy.

There are tons of issues in Kpop and s.m ent but complaining about the most pointless things takes validity away from the argument.

"But ...they cancelled youtube red reality show/ they said no to cochella" allegedly..

Do ya'll understand that those are avenue's that can't be controlled. Look at what happened to those poor girls who went to that event and got trashed for weeks. Anything can happen and it's not an asian event. Exo has had bad performances in the past, mess ups, bad notes, if that happened in a crowd full of foreigners who may not even be into kpop; they aren't women who can just laugh it off cause they look like instagram models, that would be humiliating. People are way meaner to men on the internet.

Do I need to bring back the last time S.m and fans tried to push exo performing at a western event, a very traditional group of people opposed it heavily citing it was an american event and began picking the group apart. Gender and race are a huge issue companies are hesistant how they bring a group to the west. They purposely promoted super m differently to prevent a bad reaction from certain groups of people. They wore less makeup, did less overt fanservice and made sure they promoted them more masculine. They always referred to one another as brother. They don't want to put their groups in a bad spot and I don't blame them.

Did people ever think that the group may not of been the best group to perform at that type of event. They have a lot of members and cochella isn't known for focusing on dancing. Some members don't even have lines in most songs, they would just be standing there. They aren't blackpink or 2ne1 with only four members who equally share lines.

I don't remember other large groups crying cause they weren't invited to cochella, because every market is different. Rappers, bands and female performers do better at cochella than dudes and there's nothing wrong with that.

How can 9 people sing equally at a musical event?

"Youtube offered them a show why didn't s.m take it"

With Youtube red...can exo be as authentic as the documentary may require? Can they have a scene with serious or contraversial stuff like hybe is doing and their fans be okay with that? Maybe that wasn't a risk they were willing to take. They have a completely different promotion style than other companies. The fans do not know these people. What if the members had to show their real authentic personalities? Would fans even be interested in that? It could destroy the fourth wall s.m built up for them. Fans would rather ignore issues just like the lawsuit, they plug their ears and cover their eyes, even when it was cbx who tried to call attention to it. They were trying to say they had an issue but fans just wanted more fluffy content and were upset the lawsuit messed it up for them. So could the fandom take a documentary where problematic stuff might be filmed? The fans themselves might of boycotted youtube.

They would of been like:

"How dare they put the boys in a bad light. S.m should have protected them"

The members are known for saying stuff that got them in trouble with foreign american fandoms. What if it caused more trouble than it was worth?

That's how companies have to think.

I understand that there are many things which do need to be talked about concerning exo, s.m and kpop but the reality is that be honest most do not want to have those conversations. How many injuries and people passing out had fans rolling their eyes saying "again?"

or "screw s.m"

what does that do?

People don't even know how to boycott because they are so addicted to their faves being top sellers and milking their achievements. How can people say they don't care when they talk about exo's awards like they earned them themselves. The only award a fan should be proud of is a grammy because there's a council of critics who are unbias not a bunch of crazy fans.

When people let go of their ego then change will happen until then the companies will continue to do whatever they want. Having underage children dancing in a basement learning how to attract fans is an issue. Millionaires getting less money than they thought they could get is not.

to be honest at this point I'm convinced they were live action role playing to practice for a romance movie but both of them ended up not getting the part so they just stayed in character for a few years cause this is so funny. Honestly he lowkey highkey needed camila to be a replacement mom for him cause he clearly needs that in his life, but it's so interested how they ended up doing so much pda but never even tried to get engaged or even a reality special.

Saw another one of those videos and they were doing all that stuff in front of someone who was cleaning the table 🙄

They need to give that worker a raise :(

kpop doesn't deserve him. The lack of promotion is scandalous seriously. He got a genuine hit with basically no budget, and it kept growing after the promotion cycle. Personally I think the audience is partially to blame. Companies think the worst of attention spans because it's been proven people are fighting with goldfish to see who's memory lasts longer. People are barely winning. Personally rover wasn't my cup of tea, but aside from that I see no reason why it wasn't taken further. The obsession fans have with a full group comeback is nonsense. If he would of been given more time to work on his own album and not have to do a total rush job in order to make time for an album that quite frankly couldn't make numbers or bring in any new fans is ridiculous. The artistic direction Jongin goes in works for the times we are in. In an era where even the president of big hit admits kpop is declining fans still are stubborn and swear it's not true. J's a model, an influencer and could potentially be an international socialite. As laughable as that sounds to most fans who pay no attention to the outside world and only care for korean standards, it's true. He has an will always have great potential. Whether people want to accept that or not, he does. But squandering it for meager things like exo fancams going viral and having your faves together to me is a mistake. I believe he made it clear a while back he wants to do his own thing. I believe s.m will let exo go over their dead bodies. They will never give the group name and music away. Especially after so many artists are trying to leave. There is so much more to the story than people know.

KAI : Bomba Dance Practice

he like lives in south A he should make a spanish album and then star in a telenovela on the cw. He should be in the jane the virgin reboot.

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my personal experience on this.

I genuinely wanted to hear exols out cause whenever I said that "exo wasn't known for their singing", which they aren't, somebody said that they were and basically like I was trippin. So cause I'm fair and it's been forever since I listened to kpop for real. I listened to a compilation of literally every best Exo vocalist in their prime, listened to the opinion of professionals and got a good unbiased view then to compare. Then, I looked up the vocals of your average run of the mill pop star in america to get a view of our standards-- then I watched a Exo's main vocalists best moments video at random, like I just picked something fans gave a lot of views and the comments were good...

I burst out laughing so bad, I had to take a break. I could literally tell that they were stretching their voices way beyond capacity, in their average range of course they are decent but not in any way known for their voices, I even checked periodically to see if a video of great merit was out there. It's about just as good as anyone who calls themself a singer should be. So moral of the story just trust your first mind. American singers who are lazy, have better vocal technique in their sleep, but I suppose compared to those who literally can't sing at all they are god tier in korea, but definitely not all of asia though, and most definitely not enough to be compared with other artists who are known worldwide for their singing that still sticks with me.

I even heard they make the poor trainee's hold their breath and all sorts of weird stuff to make them talented. Apparently they all do it and it's an sm thing. To me it doesn't really help much, they also train them in a sort of opera style to help project their voices but that doesn't mean you can go higher, you have to start extremely young and train in a very specific way to properly pull that true opera voice off. They need to leave that to the italians because it's not clicking like that for them. It's extremely nasal and clogged, and I can never hear any true bass in the voices. They leave that to the rappers who can't really go too much higher. Anyway definition of overexposed, fandoms are just cults that demand devout loyalty people truly can't decipher true from fake.

"I stan real singers" *checks video* are you fucking with me

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