If I Remember Correctly Kai Used To Get Into A Lot Of Fights When He Was Younger Trying To Make A Reputation

I thinking about the shenanigans of Shindo and Cider 'fighting' over who claims Deku's love after the war (non serious promise, these two are just idiots in love for the same brocoli).

I bet their unofficial triple dates will go like this:

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Shindo: Hey Zuku! I brought your favorite for the dinner (he ordered katsudon)

Deku: Yo that's so nice! (his eyes bright and his cheeks had a soft pink tone)

Cider: Izu! I rented the entire AM golden era movie compilation, we can have our movie night (he used Endeavor's credit car taken from Shoto to rent the movies).

Deku: Really?! Guys... you don't have to all this for me... (his blush intensifies)

Shindo and Cider feel their faces hot after that both exclaim "NO!!!" at the same time, promising Izuku they're happy to spend some good time with him. They proceed to eat the dinner, while Deku is totally ignorant of the small tension between his two 'friends'.

Later they're sitting on the couch with a movie playing on the tv, but aside of Izuku the others aren't really paying attention to the movies.

Shindo got an idea an he extend his arm over Izuku shoulder, getting him closer to his chest.

Yo: Great night don't you think? (ask to Izuku while giving Cider a smirk)

Deku: Oh... yes (a bit nervious because of being to close to Shindo's muscular chest)

Cider stars feeling angry but he looks at Shindo as if was saying "b*tch please" and then suddenly he drops his head on Deku's lap for the surprise of the others.

Cider: Izu can you pat my hair please? (he put big innocent puppy eyes)

Deku: Of course! (His smile is equally bright)

Izuku loves how fluffy and soft Cider hair is, as he press and tangles his fingers on the light blue locks for the pleasure of Cider.

Shindo was about to get annoyed, but he feels how Izuku started cuddle against his chest, as he wanted to stay as close as possible to the two boys he's secretly in love with.

Izuku is just so happy to have both of them for him that even he forgets about the movies to enjoy the warm and softness of Shindo and Cider.

The tension between them also goes away pretty quick, as in the end they just want their beloved Izuku to be happy.

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P.S: Cider also shaved a side of his head for match hairstyles with Izuku. Yes these boys are that silly for their brocoli.

HELP THIS IS SO FUNNYKJSDJKSDKJ I think this might be the second throuple I get since Kirishhima, Kaminari and Sero, so shoutout to you!!!

I love the idea of them "fighting" for Izuku's attention, they are so committed to surpassing the other that they don't even realize Izuku has been setting up dates with both of them in the hopes they will get along better and it just turns that they are months into this dynamic and don't know they are all kind of dating kjdfjkfd

It's so funny imagining all 3 of them with the fuckass lesbian haircut just to match Izuku and make him feel a little better <33

Shinso also got the waist reduction lol

And the most obvious example of this trend is Dabi

His body is totally different in the anime than what it is in the manga.

I find funny how the anime constantly makes Shigaraki look like Lou Ferrigno in terms of muscles, in some cases his head looks like it doesn't belong to his own body:

But then you have Horikoshi drawing him like this...

Like sure, the muscles are still there but he's not this giant hulk with biceps the size of his head.

Even the manga in the first war arc doesn't have him looked like the anime does:

And I remember even the wiki copes with the idea that the surgery was supposed to give him extra muscles, but that was never stated officially and in any case his natural muscles came from the training in MVA.

Idk what's this obssesion the anime has for making all male characters buff as hell, even Dabi when canonically he's also a pipsqueak.

『Tiempo juntos』

Giyuu y Sabito pasan el tiempo uno al lado del otro. Durante las misiones cazando demonios, los descansos entre los pueblos en los que ayudan, las reuniones de Pilares y sus días libres en la Finca del Agua.

Add me on discord as "alka07783".

I don't use discord that much these days because the app changed for worse since the first time I've used it, and just lack of interest compared to my other social media.

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I'm sorry to hear that about your beta reader. That's a really awful behavior, but I'm sure you will get a new one soon.

Still excited to read your take on this ship and the AU you made for it.

OK FINALLY I FINISHED

Chapter 1 of the most heroic villain is done, holy shit I did this in two days. (laughs awkwardly at the grammar, thank god I have a beta) OK, I LOVE THE LITTLE HINTS OF THIS SHIP (ok just saw my beta block me on Discord and on Tumblr, it's bc I ship sgdk I bet but wow so I have no beta anymore...ok,)

A bit sad but oh well, life goes on. Do you want to see Chapter 1?

I do like how both Cinder and Izumi have anonymity at their disposal, yes people know Cinder exists but they do not know what he looks like or have any info- can´t help to contrast with POSSUM that blows the element of surprise for...nothing.

Izumi is very nonchalant about hearing how Usagi is a hot topic.

I kind of like that, she doesn't give a damn for fame.

Oh great!

Congratulations for your first chapter. I would love to read it.

Also it's fun because you technically made the first story ever of this ship.

Btw I also have discord in case you want chat there.

Can you develop a boxing AU between Izuku and Yo Shindou? Like Yo Shindou tries to concentrate on the fight, but gets distracted by Izuku's muscular body and Izuku's determined smile. (Please answer my question)

Oh this is sure an interesting scenario, but unfortunately I don't know anything about boxing beyond the most basic concepts so I don't think I can do justice to the idea.

But let me tell you: I love YoDeku/ShinDeku or YoIzu, whatever name you prefer for the ship. Yo and Izuku would have a lot of chemistry together I and love seeing healthy interpreations of them.

For this AU in particular (or just in general) I imagine Shindo being a bit surprised by the contrast or Midoriya "cute" and soft face that isn't very common on the boxing world, compared to his well trained body.

And Midoriya wouldn’t ignore Yo's muscles either, let me tell you.

Horikoshi is always involved in the movies production in more or less degree, as a consultant for the story despite he doesn't get credit in the script writing, and doing character designs and he does the promo Volume that is gifted to the people that go to the cinema.

Heroes Rising in particular seems to be the one movie he contributed the most, as we know the overall plot is based on a discarded ending he had for the main series. And he did an origin chapter for Nine, something no other movie villain has.

Slice being betrayed by men is something HK put in the volume extras despite that info isn't present in the movie itself.

As you didn't see the movie let me explain this quick: Slice and especially Mummy don't get much real exposition about their past in the movie, as the plot gives more attention to Nine and Chimera.

I wouldn't discard Slice being exploited on a romantic/sexual degree, I guess that part is leave to the reader imagination.

Like I said my own interpretation based on the few info we got is that Slice trust and admire Nine because other mens in her life he views her with different eyes and help Slice to find a new porpuse, also giving her the opportunity to discorver her own strength and also meet people she can trust.

That's why also I don't like Nine/Slice on a shipping sense, it feels wrong (and Nine could only have one valid ship).

Looking at the characters pages in the Volume Rising extras, I notice an interesting detail about Slice's background.

Now I'm aware this is a rough translation by google, but it's interesting that Horikoshi explicitly describes Slice as being used by "men".

Which could also connect with this panel from Nine's origin backstory, in which Slice is seen lying on the floor of a destroyed apartment looking totally defeated and helpless.

As far I know this is the only time a female character (and a villain for that mattter) in the series is written with an explicit background about being used and possible exploited by mens, implying a context of misoginia.

Which also makes me wish we had more context about Slice relationship with Nine and the rest of the crew.

How she pass from not trust anyone to be fully concerned about her team? (All being mens).

There's a lot of potential to developed their relationship there.

But an important note: I don't see Slice devotion to Nine and his ideals as romantic, not at all like much people like to interpret just because she's a woman. I feel that kinda goes against her characterization, considering Nine probably was the first man she ever trust but unlike others he wasn’t a lover or anything, but a savior and a true friend/family.

Horikoshi also says on Slice character page that Nine asked her about her quirk first and he values the name of it over actual names (which btw adds to Nine's own characterization considering he doesn't have a real name). I like to think it might be one of the reasons of why Slice trust so much on Nine's vision for the world, as he probably give a new meaning to her life other than being a pretty face and help her to value her own power.

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heroes : rising

I will never stop saying that the LOV members are nothing more than a bunch of beginners villains artificially inflated to stay as permanent main villains.

The most frustrating part about this is how the only way Horikoshi could make this work is at expense of better villains with way more potential from the get go.

Stain, Overhaul, Nine, the MLA, all these villains with better concepts are sacrificed as lambs to make the LOV "develop" into better villains, which is totally false because they only get away from countless impossible situations thanks to an absurd degree of plot armor. Or how the fuck Toga being a teen with a knife can represent a problem to freaking Deku of all persons?

Another example of how Horikoshi struggled to keep every active lov member relevant is how Spinner in the final arc get this forced af rivalry with Shoji about the mutant subplot, an idea that always was barely developed in the series and suddlenly becames a big deal despite Spinner never give a fuck about other mutants, and neither Shoji did.

Ironic how Horikoshi stated that his favorite Jujutsu Kaisen villain is Mahito, for obvious reasons as he's basically Shigaraki 2.0. EXCEPT by the fact Gege understood that keep Mahito in the story more than necessary would have been a slog and he killed him in a very satisfying way.

Horikoshi could've taken notes and learn that the LOV members shouldn't have made into the final battle and their arcs would be better ended much sooner, while the other villains with more potential should stay longer.

Imo the League of Villains should have never existed from the main story of MHA. They were utterly unbalanced and were so flawed that no attempt of fixing could fix them.

I get where your coming from. I

I honestly believe the LOV really needed was time to grow away from the spotlight.

Think of the LOV as leftover pizza (I know, just stick with me for a minute)

Too long in the microwave/oven/pan and it tastes like hardback, too little and it becomes soggy muddled. There's a very specific way you need to do things and that's by not overthinking it.

Hori kept the microwave on too long and the LOV's potential evaporated.

From what I can tell, MHA worked best when it had a 'Villain of the week's type of thing going on.

This was most prominent and best set up with Stain, Stain's character/arc not only expanded the world of MHA but also brought up deeper questions about Hero society

What's most important here is that Stain didn't overstay his welcome. He rolled in, made every panel count and then went out like a champ. Affecting the protagonist and those around him.

He had an impact that's felt throughout the rest of the series (There is no Internship Arc in Ba Sing Se) not inspite of his short lived presence but because of it.

At some point, Hori lost this concept and the plot went with it.

I think the main problem with the LOV started after Kamino. Before this, every member has solid, or at least tangible ideals.

The Vanguard Action Squad was the LOV at it's most raw, not perfect but functional. They felt like people, when Magne stops Spinner from pursuing Midoriya, it feels real for the world.

Simply put the LOV (much like 1A) worked best as individuals, differing worldviews and all.

So when Hori robbed the LOV of their autonomy by practically wrangling them to Shigaraki, it in turn killed the LOV, because now nothing was individual about them.

If you want an example, how about Magne's death. Her last words are the very last time anyone in the LOV asserts any belief besides Shigaraki's own.

After this the LOV barely give any resistance to Shigaraki's plans no matter how short sighted or convoluted.

Kurogiri is outright sacrificed by the narrative so that Shigaraki finally has to step up.

Shigaraki's reaction to Toga's rage and grief follwing Magne's death can be amounted to: "Trust me bro, we're doing this for us bro, please believe me bro."

It's absurd.

As for being flawed, I'll assume you mean their motives.

What needs to be understood is that the LOV (Pre Kamino) and the PLF (Post Kamino) are not the same characters

Flanderisation is the phenomenon of a characters worst traits being exacerbated over a period of time until said character is unrecognizable from their original self.

This is what Hori did the LOV and he did this intentionally.

At some point he realized that the Villains actually had more of a point than the heroes, this likely occured after the MVA arc when fans began rooting for the LOV.

To counter this Hori sabotaged multiple characters and plots in a desperate attempt to justify his woolies and unfortunately for everyone who's isn't an abuser-stan (Enji and Bakuo). The rest of the cast and world suffered greatly.

What you ended up with are characters so detached from their origins that they might as well not even be the same characters at all.

There's an image somewhere that encapsulates this perfectly, it's a 4 panel comic with two stick figures (one black and one blue). If I ever find it or someone links it I'll be sure to upload it here

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Feel free to use any of my ideas for your AU if you want! And adapt them to your style, as you probably would put a better use than me.

That includes the names for Cider.

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I already love your own ideas for develop their relationship since their meet. Their teamwork and the way the gain mutual respect.

And the whole concept of Cider/Mizunami having a "Oh no, he's hot" moment is pure gold.

Just imagine if his mask breaks and he takes the parts off showing his face cover in dirt, sweat and a bit of blood after a that fight which he wins. All this in front of of Izumi who will be dying inside by the view of so much testosterone lol.

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Geten being illiterate might be actually canon, as Horikoshi explained he never go to a school and rather trained his quirk all his life. And that's kinda sad if you think about it.

He really is the perfect child soldier, coming from a family like the Himuras who are elitist jerks obssesed with status and power (and they even practice inbreeding between their clans) capable of sell their members like objects no matter the gender as both him and Rei were sold very young for different porpuse. And Geten was sold to a quirk elitist maniac who probably brainwashed him into serve to the ideology of a guy from 300 years ago, and Re-Destro is okay with Geten not having any kind of education apparently.

Yeah that's a rough life for sure...

But also a gold mine for interactions!

Especially between him and his biological family.

In my AU all the Todoroki kids, Geten and Cider are cousins by the Himura side, at some point all them should be reunited in one way or another. Think about that sweet drama...

The parallels you made between Mizunami and Geten are brilliant. Hope it can develop into a good dynamic in which both can lear from each other rather than just being enemies.

The whole cinderIzu is great and I welcome with open arms. For my au, I have an idea for them meet.

Again, BK is a footnote in her life and Izumi is not dedicating all her time and energy in thinking of him. (She hears how his quirk remains the same, no quirk awakening bs, how bk's attitude got worse and how Aizawa is sure BK is the future)

Izumi hears about the mpa here and there and ...is not impressed. She needs money, her group can't work by luck...they need ration and more, and Izumi is not happy ReDestro has "schools" for kids to learn their quirks...its just a camp where the kid learns how to use their quirk AND NOTHING ELSE (Geten my be alliterate here)

Stealing from Redestro is not something she can pull off on her own. She needs help to do this heist.

(the quirk schools aren't illegal, per se, but it rubs Izumi in the wrong way. She is right)

Enters Cinder. He shows up with his helmet, all gear up and...well, he too needs money and Mr. Youtsubashi is loaded and if he wants to make quirk schools, fine...let's rob the fucker.

Izumi gawks as Cinder removes his helmet. He is handsome and cute...she wasn't expecting this.

Lol

(I love a good mask reveal!)

I also live for the moments when a character takes of their mask and reveals to be hot, and Cider isn't the exception. I mean can you blame Midoriya for what him?

Note: Izu probably loves in particular the little scar Cider got in his eyebrown, he/her found that detail to be especially sexy.

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Is funny you mention the whole plot of Cider helping Izu to steal stuff from Re-Destro company, as I also have this idea of him making an operation to steal from a werehouse full of valuable tech and support items that Detnerant (I think that's the company name) sells into the black market.

They would have success stealing a lot of merch they later sell to get money, but also Cider found a particularly expensive prototype of a high tech glider he decides to keep for himself and use to compliment his surfing style. As Mizunami is really into surfing in my AU, like he seems to be in canon.

Oh I forgot to mention before but the vigilante name Cider/Mizunami will use for my AU will be "Splashdown". Be free to use it if you like the name.

And since you mentioned Geten here, do you think he will have some role in the story? As I mentioned before I love the idea of Cider being a Himura, but also he probably was rejected by his clan because his quirk is water instead of ice and the Himuras seems to be the kind of elitist jerks to would dishonor a child for born with a "imperfect" quirk.

Which would create a lot of tension between Cider and Geten, especially is they reconogice each other. Geten hating Cider for being "a failed Himura" and Cider will hate Geten because he's just a "an attack dog" for Re-Destro.