I'm Sorry But It Needs To Be Said - MHA Literally Has A Character Whose Whole Entire Quirk Is Fucking

Don't worry, I'm also studying for many upcoming exams on top of having to deal with my job lol. So I also answer a bit late.

I guess for that dude in particular it might be because he's tied to two semi popular characters who are Midnight and Mina. While Cider doesn't really have any ties with other characters in canon sadly.

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To me the best kind of fanservice is the one that gives you some kind of emotional reaction other than horny for the sake of being horny.

Really sometimes having a cute but intimate moment can have a better effect than just two characters being thirsty for each other.

And about the Himuras reasons to disown Cider... don't think to much about it, cause their logic is very twisted. Mizunami is great on his own but since he's not "the standard" that's reason enough to hate him according to the clan.

Can't stop thinking about a CiderDeku focused AU in which our favorite seltzer boy and Midoriya work as part time vigilantes together.

And since Izuku has a fire bending quirk in this AU, the contrast of his quirk and Cider's (who is named Mizunami Himura in this story) make people start calling them "Steam-Bow couple" as their unofficial vigilantes name.

Still thinking about the details of how they started their crusade together as vigilantes, but I like that idea I mention in other post about Mizunami saving Izuku from Bakugou when both of them still were in Aldera and Midoriya was around 13. Mizunami still was the leader of the Cider House gang (and maybe two years older than Midoriya) but later he left the group because he felt his members started to be way too problematic and getting in worse situations with civilians and heroes, something he didn't like because while Mizunami commited crimes like robbery he never tried to harm innocent people during his operations.

Besides he started feeling for Izuku after protect him from Bakugou, and since Izu wanted to stay with him after the incident they both start to get along and quickly became good friends, Mizu also helping Izu no being so shy and insecure about himself due the years of bullying.

He start helping Izuku to train his quirk and body during his free time, which served a lot for Midoriya to get in good shape and develop a fight style for the years to come as he still intented to apply to at least a low-middle tier hero school (and this will became important later).

I like to think the incident with the Sludge monster from chapter 1 was what caused a twist on their relationship, as unlike what happens in canon here when both of them are attacked by the Slime that escaped from A.M, Izuku and Mizunami give the monster a big surprise because they were able to fight back.

Slime turned to be quite vulnerable to water and fire combined, which allowed Izu and Mizu to restrain him in a bottle of soda and left him for the heroes finish the job later, as they run totally excited by the experience.

After escape and being safe, Izuku suddenly jump to the arms of Mizunami and they started kissing out of the excitement of the moment. When they calm down both smiled and since that moment they became officially boyfriends, and decide they would have more moments like this in the future so they will start fight criminals together.

Also the incident also give Izuku the final confidence boost he always needed and when Bakugou provoked him after school trying to make fun of Mizunami who was there for walk along Izuku to his home, Midoriya decided he had enough when Katsuki insulted his boyfriend.

So what happened next is that Izuku deep breath and expelled a big green fire ball from his mouth, which resulted in Bakugou getting a lot of first degree burns and loosing his eyebrows (something for what he would be mocked a lot later).

Mizunami used his water quirk to extinguish the fire over Bakugo's clothes who is totally terrified, then Mizu and Izuku laugh at him take a picture with their funs for future reference and run away together.

Hi @nyc3

CinderIzu is great and Cinder as a character was ignored, slept on ...bc villain stans are predictable into hot villains like dabi and shig(yes, shig is hot even in his possum way) and ...damn this fandom waste a good opportunity for a ship.

For a moment, thought you were talking about my idea.

I do like the idea Izumi being considered so beautiful even with her scars (she is prettier bc of her scars bc this woman survived) so in a country where the woman's value depends on her beauty...Izumi carrying her scars and being hot is amazing. Cinder would be into!

Cinder would also be into kill bk!

Her entire story, as she describes what BK did, seems like SA. See? The difference of boy and girl here is how people perceive the violence.

But I'm into this ship.

I do like sgdk a lot.

I do like dabideku too

But CinderIzu??? I'm open and so far like the ideas.

I have headcanons of a YoDeku boxing AU, here they are:

Yo Shindo and Izuku start as rivals in the boxing ring, with Yo being initially skeptical of Izuku's abilities.

Without anyone knowing, Yo has a secret fake profile page, where he praises and idolizes Izuku, always talking about his fights and the green-haired guy's muscular body.

During the weigh-in of the first fight, Izuku remained serious, while Yo had a relaxed smile, but both were super nervous inside (Both were like ``Oh no, my opponent is very hot´´)

In the first fight, Izuku knocked out Yo, after the fight, he came to apologize, but Yo, still dazed from the punch, says that the moment Izuku threw the punch was the sexiest memory he had ever seen in someone, leaving Izuku even more embarrassed.

Their favorite moment during the fight is when they both get into a clinch, even after the end of the round, they both remain hugging each other, as it is an excuse to stay close to each other.

Yo Shindo and Izuku have become fans of each other, they always go to each other's fights to cheer each other on, even during the locker room, Yo and Izuku like to promise prizes if the fight ends in victory.

Yo Shindo was (besides Shoto) the one who consoled Izuku after his knockout defeat against Bakugou (Even though the blond made a dirty move, he bought the judge to give him the victory). Yo and Shoto promised to help Izuku train for his rematch.

After defeating Bakugou and winning the title, Izuku, in a moment of euphoria, gives Yo a big kiss, shocking everyone in the fight, they both laugh and continue the fun at home.

What do you think?

Based on my very limited knowledge about boxing, I really like the scenario.

If I had to add something I guess Midoriya is all serious about the sport because he wants to be like his A.M who in this universe would be like the world champion or something like that. While Shindo probably wants him to calm down a bit because he knows going super hard since the very beginning isn't good for a long term career.

Bakugou is the villain for YoDeku? Lol I'm so used to see it being the other way around that is nice to see the blonde asshole as the villain for once.

They celebrating BK defeat with a night of passion is way to perfect.

Can totally imagine Shindo having a public profile in which he leaves some likes for Midoriya at best, yet his secret fake profile is basically a simp account. That totally fits with him.

They should totally have a Rocky style training montage, it's just classic.

Add me on discord as "alka07783".

I don't use discord that much these days because the app changed for worse since the first time I've used it, and just lack of interest compared to my other social media.

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I'm sorry to hear that about your beta reader. That's a really awful behavior, but I'm sure you will get a new one soon.

Still excited to read your take on this ship and the AU you made for it.

OK FINALLY I FINISHED

Chapter 1 of the most heroic villain is done, holy shit I did this in two days. (laughs awkwardly at the grammar, thank god I have a beta) OK, I LOVE THE LITTLE HINTS OF THIS SHIP (ok just saw my beta block me on Discord and on Tumblr, it's bc I ship sgdk I bet but wow so I have no beta anymore...ok,)

A bit sad but oh well, life goes on. Do you want to see Chapter 1?

I do like how both Cinder and Izumi have anonymity at their disposal, yes people know Cinder exists but they do not know what he looks like or have any info- can´t help to contrast with POSSUM that blows the element of surprise for...nothing.

Izumi is very nonchalant about hearing how Usagi is a hot topic.

I kind of like that, she doesn't give a damn for fame.

Oh great!

Congratulations for your first chapter. I would love to read it.

Also it's fun because you technically made the first story ever of this ship.

Btw I also have discord in case you want chat there.

As a marketing strategy I get why Aldera would do all the moves to get Bakugou at U.A, since one can imagine for them having as future reference "Pro Hero Bakugou Katsuki graduated from our prestigious school". Is more of a greedy spin rather than just them having a racist (quirkist?) agenda, which I find more believable.

Good for Izu to get justice. They should also close the school and use the building to open a center that helps the victims of bullying and other more real social issues.

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Oh you're adding the creep factor into the mix?

Hear me out: what about Aizawa being in this too?

Because you know, his preferential trait for Shinso over other students could easily be twisted into something really sick if you want. As you probably know Shinzawa is a really popular ship for both characters.

What if Aizawa was having sexual encounters with Shinso? But of course that totally didn't have anything to do with the mysterious "ascension" of Shinso into the hero course (and expulsion of some random folk for allow that place being free) despite his notorious low performance and he already being put in general studies.

I imagine Izu using his resources of hacking and contacts (would be fun if she hires Mineta to spy on Aizawa using his talents) to get her a lot of tapes that incriminate Aizawa as a pedo. Since yes, Shota obviously would be dumb enough to record himself having sex with Shinso.

Hell you can even add Bakugou into that creep act, as BakuZawa is also very popular. Imagine this fun yet twisted scenario were Shinso turns against Aizawa because he thought he was the only "special boy" of Shota.

Yet I imagine Shota wouldn't be charged for the worst part of this. For his ex students becoming villains he will face justice and Nezu probably would try to use his influence to get him free of charges, but in private Izu threats Aizawa to expose his sexual tapes to the press if he doesn't declare himself responsible and also reveals a lot of shit that happens in U.A under that fachade of perfection.

Aizawa totally defeated accepts and he goes a time to jail, but pretty tame compared to what he actually deserves. Obviously his heroic and teacher career are ruined for life anyway, and Nezu would use his influence for ensure Shota never goes behind a desk again just as a revenge for expuse the true face of the U.A

You decide if that's enough punishment for him.

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I wouldn't discard Mirio getting totally brainwashed into what Nighteye expects from him, so his weirdo acts don't bother him at all and he probably would defend his master.

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Cider quirks having the unintended side effect of getting everyone with a wet shirt is a happy mistake lol.

I guess at first their atraction would be purely physical, that's normal, but when they start to meet each other they discovered all the things they actually like from the other.

On the seltzer bunny 🐰 fic I finally have an outline for the first chapter. And yes, Cinder does make an appearance. Ok my idea is basically Izumi makes Aldera her first target.

It doesn't make a big target if you see with western eyes but in Japan, teachers are respected so...Izumi showing how aldera is corrupt is a big deal, many eyes are on her and aldera.

Izumi's crimes:

Breaking in

Invasion of propriety

Identity thief

Hacking

But she exposes Aldera as it is. She ruins their lives as they ruined hers and the others. No Redestro is used nor they are anti QUIRKLESS...here they are willing to sacrifice everyone for BK (and BK is ranking bellow Mineta) and didn't spare a second (hm, this au is set UA is a colleague and they DO use the image of the students to create polls and whatnot.

You read that right ...Bk ranks bellow Mineta.

The first thing in this chapter is how Izumi is walking among the rain. She is wet and I do like this small nudge to the talks we had about what would tease Cinder...Izumi will say the phrase "I'm wet" a lot.

As for Cinder...he hears about the Usagi(means bunny) and is curious...he is not sure if she is real or if the Aldera's staff is making things up. Their crimes do make others educators frown at them...their careers are over and so is Aldera. A new school will born.

Cinder is not a fan of corrupt schools and finds aldera really stupid but if this bunny is real...that's interesting.

Cinder: if we are to meet, we will.

(I love put those lil moments here and there. Hints to the couple. Again, she says "I'm wet a lot" and is not an innuendo until it is)

Izumi is planning her next move. Nighteye. Everyone is motivated by revenge in the team. I label them "team found family revenge" lol

Congrats for the progress with your story! I want to read it as soon you publish the chapters, so let me know when that happens.

I'm aware of how Japan culturally holds a lot more respect and give importance to education than the west. Ngl I kinda admire them for that, for story porpuse I get what you try to make.

And since you're ruining the lifes of bad teachers do you have some plans for Aizawa next? I think you didn't like him that much either.

Lol isn't weird at all that Mineta should classify better than BK, as after all besides the stalker stuff and such Mineta is capable of having human decency and interact with other people normally. He also smarter according to canon and his worst tendencies became pretty tame later on.

The "I'm wet" is going to take a new meaning later lol. But I'm here for the slowburn so this sounds interesting.

So you dislike Nighteye? Yeah he's not a very likeable character tbh.

If you were to turn 9 and his squad into main series villains, how would you do so?

Tough question actually, because there's a lot of different things you can do with a group of characters like them.

And I don't want to make the classic "role swap" in which everything in the timeline is almost the same minus which characters fill X spot.

For Nine specifically, I would start his story right after Kamino and the defeat of AFO.

An idea I would like to play is he and Shigaraki could actually act as rivals of sorts when AFO is out of the picture (but he would still have a part on the story).

As both groups will start from the very bottom without much resources, and Nine will have his empty copy of the AFO quirk to fill with new quirks different than the canon, perhaps only keeping the more iconic ones as Hydra just because is so cool.

Actually the quest for find the ideal quirks and one that solves the cell degeneration would be an important part of Nine developement, rather than just happen offscreen.

As for what new quirks he could steal, that's not something I don't have very clear yet (so I accept suggestions) but one of them would be Dabi's blueflames. Lol I just want see Nine with epic blue flames.

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Oh and an idea that always loved is that Nine needs another rival that isn't just Shigaraki, but someone else who is his direct opposite in terms of world view and ideology.

And that's no one else than Overhaul

Think about it, Nine and Kai are just the perfect foils for each other.

The concept of a quirk supremacist and an anti-quirk believer having a ideological (and literal) war for control the underworld and reform the world into their own view could be epic.

And for that to happen obviously we need to keep Kai as a recurring villain for most of the story. I would create a dynamic where a lot of villains groups will have internal battles while at the same time the heroes are another problem to deal.

But wait, you need soldiers for that to work.

And what best army for Nine than the one which literally believe in quirk supremacy?

Look I will die on the hill that MVA as a concept for an arc is literally made for Nine and his team.

The idea of Re-Destro wanting to contact a villain group that is getting more recognition and in the end they found common ground due beliefs fits way more with Nine than it does to Shigaraki.

I mean it's obvious, Nine is basically the living incarnation of all the ideals of the original Destro. If his descendant meet him he would instantly adore Nine.

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So that's just a part of all my ideas.

I would like to better put them together into something more consistent. Need to work on it, perhaps some day I will make a story based on this rewrite idea.

A soft Valentine's gift for them <3 Thank you @nyc3 for the most excellent mental image!

Full image under the cut, mind the 🍑

His hair blowing by the wind...

Nine is too gorgeous.

Of course, he doesn't mind go to public places like malls and buy stuff he likes like manga, nice clothes or little ornaments (I bet he got a collection of keychains).

He probably would also like arcades and play with friends and gf (Midoriya), try new restaurants, among other stuff you can do in the mall.

Cider pulled a better Vader inspired look than Kylo Ren funnily enough.

There's a big different between being confident and being narcissist. Cider really fits in the category of having confidence but in a good way, not even excessive confidence. He's also confident enough to tell a girl he meet how pretty she looks without making it sound like a creep or a weirdo, just a nice compliment.

So chapter 1 is already beta, and now my beta reader is helping me with chapter 2. This weekend will post the fic

I have a question...What you think Cinder does when he´s on, hum, let´s say off days?

Cool, I'm excited to read the final version.

So about Cider hobbies, I did mention some times that he's a surfer but that doesn't limit to the sea. After all he uses his quirk to surf in land as well.

Can we call his activity urban surfing? Pretty sure he's one of the few people who can pull off such sport lol.

I can imagine him going with his friends or solo to a derelic industrial complex or a scenario like that, a place with a lot of obstacles were practice his style for fun and training at the same time.

He's also a very good graffiti artist who likes to leave his own mark in a lot of places. Very standar for a gang to do so, but Cider likes a bit more of personality for his own graffiti.

He probably has an artistic side even if he doesn't realize that. And most likely Cider is the kind of guy who consume mangas more because of the pretty art than the story itself lol.

Midoriya probably was surprised they share a common interest on some geek stuff. I can see them having lazy days of just chill and cuddling, both reading mangas of different genres with some music in the background and making comments here and there about the story and characters.

Call me crazy, but considering how manipulative Dabi showed he can be I wouldn't discard his whole Stain fanboy persona is just a performance.

I mean put that scene of him saying "I'll fulfill Stain will" in context: in that moment the recruits actually believed Stain was actively working with Shigaraki and the LOV was a group that would follow the ideals of Chizome.

That obviously wasn't the case, but Dabi probably make up the story just for fit in the organization and later after seeing not even Spinner (the biggest Stain fanboy) give a crap about the ideals of the hero killer, Dabi just dropped the act completely and acted more like himself.

Which isn't very different from his usual self. Let's be real when he actually put in practice any of Stain actual ideals or there was some sort of callback between both characters?

I think it's actually Fanon Dabi the version that always exaggerate his supposed Stain fanboy persona, generally in an attempt to make him more sympathetic and an antihero of sorts. Coincidentally most of this fanon material cames from the era when we didn't have much context of him and people still believed for some reason that Dabi could have been trying to help his family (for some reason).

Ah btw Dabi in the manga is still comically skinny and not really that different from his debut and many times he looks like he float inside his own clothes, but the anime for some reason makes him look super ripped despite it doesn't make any sense for his character.

I much prefer Dabi's body in the manga btw, not every guy needs to have a super bulky physique to be attactive.

Hi, I did a big mulling (lol) on the whole moral aspect of Dabi and his killings. Especially considering my own au.

Look let's not kid ourselves here. It would be impossible for Besties au or canon for dabi to be "pure" aka never kill anyone. Boy was on the streets after waking up from a coma in a creepy hospital.

"a good Samaritan in the villain side took him in" ok maybe but even this good Samaritan would still be a villain and Dabi wouldn't be save of killing. Even if is self defense.

The discourse I mentioned in my channel on....ironically called Discord was about how dabi killing bad peoples works better than killing innocent people. I get the fallacy of this logic. I get the appeal.

We see characters like Punisher and we root for him bc "he is killing bad people" which makes him good in comparison. I used to like that, who didn't? But consider this idea: One villain killed the anti-hero's wife. One, and the anti hero responds by going on a rampage.

"he is angry she is dead, it's grief" he still kills a lot of people and shows no remorse.

(nothing against Anti heroes characters per se. I do love Jason Todd even if I agree how DC mistreated him, I like Bucky. I can't like Punisher through)

The thing here is if Dabi only killed bad people how we would know if the people he killed were bad to warrant the death penalty?

"dabi only killed rapist and pedos" ok. How he would know if a person committed those crimes? Waiting for the person to shout to the world all the horrible things he did on this fine Tuesday?

(this all is making me think of a case of lynching in my country, a person was accused of committed a crime, a group of the small city wanted justice and ....went to make on their own hands....turns out the person was Innocent. They killed an innocent person)

Besides killing is killing. Even if Dabi has concrete proof the people he killed are EVIL. He still took a life, he is still unaffected about it (not saying if dabi kills a rapist he should weep, but you can't exactly be so blase about it)

(I even think if Dabi goes around killing only bad people, in this case, villains....wouldn't that make others villains wry of LoV for keeping dabi? If we have a hero killer. What if we have a villain killer?)

My point on this long ass thread is how in besties au dabi has killed, ofc he did, even if is for survival...and that sticks with him. He doesn't like killing. It weights on him.

"and Endy?" Yes. He wants to kill Dabi. He wants to destroy Endy and in besties he is doing a good job. He is proactive (unlike Mr. Possum)

But the killing weights on him.

Smth I don't think it does on the heroes who kill in canon. They are sure the villains they kill are evil (I mean, I get why) and no need to think twice, right hawks?

But it's odd seeing villain stans defending dabi killing any villain without remorse and try to justify "they are evil"

Well.....

If that was the case...all the LoV deserved their fates as they are terrorists who killed lots of people, wage a war and more.

Hi @mikeellee 👋

Agreed! There is no way within Canon that dabi has never killed anyone at all. Actually, we only see dabi physically kill people after he joins the league of villains, whether that be with failed lov recruits or heroes dabi has killed.

However, in chapter 290, dabi states that he has cannonically killed over 30 innocent people. Now, I have talked about this in the @sapphic-agent post, but the framing of that panel seems to be there to humanise enji while dehumanising dabi.

How does dabi know these people are innocent?

Why did he mention the fact that they were innocent? Why didn't he just say he killed thirty people?

All of this makes me think that dabi thinks that he accidentally killed the people in the hospital.

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What if dabi thinks he killed all of the individuals in the hospital?

I agree dabi's kill count feels incredibly forced almost as if its just there to demonise dabi and make the audience more sympathetic toward

Ultimately, dabi would have realistically had to kill in self-defense. Imagine a young teenage boy obviously covered in major scaring, roaming the streets for scraps or anything to survive. That would be an easy target for people to use, rob, or do whatever they think of doing to him. Dabi would have had to quickly learn self-defense and how to survive on the street, and it shows that he did learn by his appearance.

The first time we see dabi in chapter 68, we see just how scrawny and skinny he is. He ends up gaining weight and muscle after joining the league, yet his first appearance definitely depicts him as malnourished and the increased burn scars definitely mean that he has been using his quirks ever since he was on the street for various reasons.

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A lot of Endeavor's dramatics (for lack of a word) seems to come from his privilege. He says he's willing to dance in hell, but his version

Dabi killing bad people or who he views as a bad person makes sense and is actually very in character for him. A dominant characteristic of dabi that fanon seems to undermine is that he is a huge Stain fanboy/follower. His first introduction, he announces that he plans to make the hero killers will a reality.

However, we do fall into the problem of dabi pushing his own moral views (which let's be real dabi has some very concerning views) that would be a problem. Or how does he know that this specific individual he is killing is a bad person? There's so much this is the same character who was shown to have some very misogynistic and victim blaming views, so that would be a rocky hill for him to go down on.

All of this could definitely be a great idea to explore and could easily dive deep into dabi's mentality and how that might change over the course of the series.

It is absolutely a great idea to make dabi killing weigh on him whether they're innocent or evil. Those are still people. They are still lives, they breathe, weep, form complex thoughts, bleed red etc they are people, they could be dabi and his body or the body of his loved ones could be next.

While Canon doesn't truly focus on it, it does highlight the fact that dabi does feel regret to a certain extent. Dabi is upset, and he knows, realises, and accepts that he is a bad person. It is exactly why he believes that he belongs in gell with his father. It is why all of his conversations with enji mention BOTH of them suffering and being in hell together for their sins.

There is an anime only scene with a hero cornering dabi asking him if he regrets killing and dabi doesn't respond directly, but we are shown a scene of a bloody tear falling from his face.

There is also a manga page where dabi remembers snatch and directly says that killing him drove him crazy thinking about it with a tear coming from his eye.

I just want them to get back together in some way or another