So I've Been Thinking About Them:

So I've been thinking about them:

Screenshot of a panel from Spy x Family chapter 23: Twilight and Yor are in the panel, surrounded by white. They're looking down, Twilight is smiling faintly, a small affectionate huff of air while Yor is smiling hugely, her hands held to her mouth as she blushes. Context: they're looking down at Anya who's fallen asleep on Bond.

Specifically I was wondering what the moment was (if there even was a specific moment) that cinched it for Twilight developing feelings for Yor.

[Spoiler warning: this post references manga chapters not yet animated]

I think for Yor it's pretty quick. Like, this moment here:

Screenshot of a panel from Spy x Family manga chapter 2: The image is slightly grainy, indicating it to be one of Twilight's memories. In it, he is centred, younger than he is now, and crouched behind a table or desk whilst he's being shot at. It appears someone is dead beside him, though that is slightly hidden by a speech bubble. The speech bubbles read: To endure such a hard job for the sake of another, for the sake of something greater than oneself... that isn't something that just anyone can do." End ID.
Screenshot of panel from Spy x Family manga chapter 2: A close-up of Yor's face, she is blushing, wide-eyed and looks moved and emotional. There is a dialogue bubble to the right, where Twilight finishes his speech saying, "I truly admire that." End ID

Not that Yor fell in love with Twilight then (ymmv) or that she's fully aware of her feelings, but it's explicit that she felt connected to him here and attached in meaningful ways.

Screenshot of a panel from Spy x Family chapter 2: On the far right is Yor in half profile. Her hands are held close to her chest and she's blushing a little, sweating a little facing Twilight who is on the far left in partial profile. He looks at her, a bit bloodied and bruised, clearly listening and a little in shock. Yor's dialogue bubble reads "As an actual married couple for both our sakes?" But more importantly her thought text reads "This is the only many I may ever meet who could possibly accept me as I am"

But for Twilight, it wasn't so clear. For a while I'd kind of decided that it just came over him slowly (and I think there is something to that) and that there wasn't any singular moment which stood out. But that didn't feel quite right. The more I thought about it, the more I thought there were two stand-out moments, only one of which Twilight actually (semi-)clocks.

The first, which I think passes him by entirely, is this:

Screenshot of panel from Spy x Family manga chapter 2: An action panel. In it, Yor roundhouse kicks some assailant as Twilight ducks. There is a sound effect in the action, reading THOK. End ID.
Screenshot of panel from Spy x Family manga chapter 2: A close-up of Twilight. He is a bit beat-up, but otherwise wide-eyed and smiling, implied to be looking at Yor. His dialogue enthusiastically reads, "Haha! Thank you, Yor!"
Screenshot of panel from Spy x Family manga chapter 2: Yor and Twilight are centred in the panel, surrounded mostly by nothing. Twilight smiles down at Yor and Yor laughs and covers her mouth looking up at Twilight. Twilight's dialogue says "Hahaha! That was incredible! You really sent him flying!" and Yor responds "I'm sorry I... guess I did! Hee hee. Tee hee hee."

In my view, this laugh is an entirely authentic response. I think he is, despite himself, delighted by this woman who 1. just unexpectedly saved him from being stabbed, and 2. did it by sending the guy flying across an entire alleyway.

This is accentuated in the anime, I think, by the jaunty, puckish music that makes up the first part of their marriage theme song. I am dying for the reappearance of this music in some fashion, btw, it's so fun and cheeky and I'm hoping foreshadows their vibe after various revelations and particularly when they start working together as Agent Twilight and Thorn Princess:

The second moment for Twilight, I think, is more subtle for all it's more impactful. Or at least, the degree of its importance passed me by on initial read/watch, and I think it's deliberately downplayed by Twilight himself. Because he does actually clock it but if he looks more closely at it, well... then he might have to do something about it. And maybe that something won't comport with what the mission needs, and then what?

It happens when Twilight first bugs Yor, and then poses with Franky as SSS agents to test whether she knows Yuri is with the SSS.

It's clear in the lead up that Twilight recognises he has some feelings about/for Yor, and he doesn't want to spy on her; he doesn't want to mistrust her at all. He has to convince himself to take seriously that she may be a potential threat.

Screenshot of two panels from Spy x Family manga chapter 14: In the top panel, Twilight's smiling profile is centred. His thought text reads, "I've seen no indication she's aware of Yuri's true nature, and my intuition agrees that she's clear. After all, she wanted this sham marriage so her unmarried status wouldn't raise red flags at the SSS. If she'd known her brother worked there, she wouldn't have been so worried." 
The bottom panel shows the back of Twilight's head, looking towards Yor sitting beside Anya. Yor is looking down with a small smile and Anya is watching Twilight, with indications that she's reading his thoughts. There are heartbeat sound indicators as well. Twilight's thought text reads, "But assumptions can be dangerous. What if she's been lying to me the entire time? What if she knows who I am, and that was just a pretext to get close to me?"

And even then, the convincing only sort of mostly works, because he hesitates again:

Screenshot of 4 panels from Spy x Family manga chapter 14: In the first, Twilight faces away from us, towards Yor who is putting on her jacket. Twilight says, "Oh, Yor..." and Yor responds, "Yes?"
In the second panel is a close-up of Twilight's hand, holding a bugging device. His dialogue bubble reads, "It's just, well..."
The third panel is a close-up of half of Twilight's face, with his eyes narrowed in classic Twilight-eyes, indicating he's in spy mode. His thought text reads "Is planting a bug on her going too far?"
In the final panel, a close-up of Twilight's leg and foot, taking a step, indicated to be towards Yor. His thought text reads "No. I can't let these suspicions fester. If I let up for even a moment, it might prove fatal. This is a matter of life and death not just for me, but for tens of thousands of others."

Which is, by the way, bananas. At this point, they've been a fake family for maybe a handful of weeks? Twilight is an experienced, accomplished spy with a finely honed and necessary sense of paranoia. Of course he should be suspicious. Her brother is an SSS agent! Canonically, the SSS are both Twilight- and SSS self-described as Twilight's greatest existential. It shouldn't be a question whether or not to verify Yor's knowledge here. And yet.

We all know how the rest plays out. He decides that listening in isn't enough, he needs to confront her insofar as he's able. I wrote previously about Twilight's relationship with Anya and the pivotal moment for him in how his view of his relationship with Anya changes based on Anya's (and Endo's) choices. I think a similar thing happens in this scene with Yor.

See, it would have been enough for Yor to continue to deny, continue to not call on Yuri's help, to prove she didn't know, and to put Twilight's mind at ease.

Endo takes it further.

Screenshot of panel from Spy x Family manga chapter 14: Dialogue dominates the panel, beneath the dialogue bubbles is Yor's hip and her hand flexing in a threatening way. The dialogue bubbles read, "My husband and brother are good, respectable men. If you're suggesting that you intend to harm them in some way..."
Screenshot of 2 panels from Spy x Family manga chapter 14: The top panel centres Yor, in a fighting pose, her hair blowing and her expression severe and threatening. Around her are sound effects to emphasise her threat. The dialogue bubble reads, "... Then I don't care who you work for! I will show you no mercy!"
The bottom panel is a close-up of Yor's narrowed eyes. No dialogue or thought text.

Y'all: THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WILD. It borders on levels of impulsive foolhardiness that Twilight should actually take as a negative for the person playing his wife for Operation Strix. Yor even alludes later to the problems this could cause!

Screenshot of panel from Spy x Family manga chapter 14: The panel shows Yor facing mostly away, shoulders hunched and artistic emphasis that she's feeling downtrodden. She is speaking to herself, the dialogue bubble reading, "I got so carried away I almost struck a Government Agent. I hope that won't lead to more problems." Beside the dialogue bubble is an extra sub comment when reads, "If it does, I should tell the Shopkeeper."

The SSS are indiscriminate; if Yor was facing down actual SSS agents, first assaulting and then threatening them would 100000% land her in custody. Were it not for Yuri, it may even get her disappeared, based on how casually and frequently Yuri references having people executed. It would absolutely put the Forgers at risk, in general and in the implicitly sexist Ostanian society, because if Mrs Forger behaves this way, how does Mr Forger behave? And why can't he control his wife? The Secret Police are not known for their leniency, their modesty, their discerning, their temperateness, their mercy. They are known for the exact opposite of those things. And due to being a spy, Twilight probably knows they're actually much worse than even their public reputation.

And here's Yor saying: you can question me but if you threaten my brother or my husband, I will fucking end you. Bodily.

Repeat screenshot of one of the above panels from Spy x Family manga chapter 14: The panel centres Yor, in a fighting pose, her hair blowing and her expression severe and threatening. Around her are sound effects to emphasise her threat. The dialogue bubble reads, "... Then I don't care who you work for! I will show you no mercy!"

Of course, it's entirely in keeping with her character, and it's an entirely revealing moment of who she is. And I think this is the moment for Twilight. He's already been trusting her bit by bit, as he says above, intuitively. I'd suggest that maybe even more than that though, Yor taps into something Twilight deeply wants: backup. Someone and somewhere safe. Maybe we could describe a person fulfilling that role in an adult relationship as a partner...?

It's because he doubts his intuition (his wants, his feelings, things he shouldn't be countenancing) that we get to this point where he (overzealously) tests her.

She blows his test right out of the water.

The SSS are basically the group he fears most; this is reiterated throughout the story. He doesn't trust them specifically because of who he is and also just generally. He doesn't trust their judgment. He doesn't share their values or their priorities. He doesn't like them around. He doesn't like them looking. He doesn't like being anywhere near them. (Also, he's right.)

And here's Yor. Not only standing up to them on his behalf but actually going on active defence on his behalf.

(I pause here to note 'on his behalf' is a bit, mm, tricky, since it's actually technically on Loid's behalf and I have Thoughts and Feelings about Twilight & Identity. But for the sake of the impact of this moment on Twilight, we'll take it as writ that in this moment there's no appreciable difference between Twilight and Loid.)

I think from here on out, it's incredibly difficult for Twilight to ever doubt or distrust Yor. He perceives her as firmly in his corner, that if the chips are down — if his worst enemy and his worst fear come knocking — she'll be on his team, unflinchingly. He may not think there will be much she can do (heh.) or much she can offer given the power of the SSS and her civilian status (I reiterate: heh.), but it matters that he believes that she'll be by his side.

And you know what? He's right. She will be.

That isn't something he's had since he was a little boy. Even WISE doesn't seem to offer that to its agents, given Nightfall's thought here:

Screenshot of a panel from Spy x Family manga chapter 32: To the right of the panel is Nightfall's standing leg against the background of the floor. The thought text reads, "But Twilight... Didn't you also teach me that all spies are expendable?"

Twilight's had to rely on himself for decades and now here's this astonishing woman who will threaten the Secret Police for his sake. Of course he trusts Yor. Of course this moment widens the cracks in his barriers. And further: of course those cracks start to reach into those walls deep, deep inside that protect his heart. This is all before getting to other moments, like when he reflects on how Yor is creating a better world in ways he (thinks he) can never aspire to do himself. That she loves Anya openly, freely, with such dedication, to the point of sacrificing her own needs. That she just never gives up, she persists and persists and persists, always doing her best. That she reminds him it's okay to accept peace and to rest. That she wants and tries to take care of him... On and on and on.

Of course we get to this point:

Screenshot of a 2 panels from Spy x Family manga chapter 86: The first panel is a close-up of half of Twilight's face, he is wide-eyed in shock, with an action notifier reading Stagger and artistic indications of being taken by surprise. 
The second panel is a wider image, showing Twilight falling to his knees. Yor faces him, leaning forwards with her arm out in clear alarm and concern. Twilight's thought text reads, "What the...?! All my strength just left me." Yor's dialogue bubble reads, "Loid! Are you okay?!"

I'm particularly taken with his body language a little later in the scene. He manages to get himself to sitting but he's still sprawled, open, even as he can't wrap his mind around what exactly is happening or why, and he's feeling vulnerable for all that. But at the same time, this is Yor. And she's safe.

Screenshot of a panel from Spy x Family manga chapter 86: Twilight sits on the floor with a baffled expression. He is leaning a little bit back on his hands, one knee is up, the other bent, legs somewhat splayed. Yor sits on the floor facing Twilight and away from us. Her knees are bent, she leans on one hand, the other in her lap, seeming at ease.

In my view, if the Mole Arc hadn't happened immediately between this moment and the earlier where Yor declares herself unhappy, it would have been clearer how much stress he felt specifically due to Yor's apparent sudden unhappiness with their arrangement. The stress got subsumed (conveniently, ahem, Endo) into the stress and violence of the Mole Arc, but I think it rattled him pretty profoundly. It's also additionally why her warm greeting hit him as hard as it did: relief across multiple lines, such that he had to remind himself not to relax, despite Yor's apparent return to normal.

Screenshot of a panel from Spy x Family chapter 86. A close-up of Twilight's face and shoulders. He is shaking with exhaustion, looking bruised, irate, taking off his hat. His thought text reads, "You really are losing your edge, Twilight! Who knows what unfathomable hatred seethes behind that smile!" as Yor's dialogue bubble reads, "Oh my!" in obvious concern.

And there may be added layers to Twilight's reactions to Yor's bad moods due to his familial history, as pointed out by @unhappy-sometimes in this post; the inverse, of course, is that Yor's general good-naturedness would add layers to Twilight's sense of security with her. And the apparent loss of that, all the more devastating.

Rounding out the original moment though, I think this in many ways demonstrates the point:

Screenshot of 3 panels from Spy x Family manga chapter 14: The top panel is a close-up of Twilight's gloved hand with motion indicators that he is squeezing his hand: breaking the listening device. There is a noise indicator reading Crack. 
The next panel is a wider shot, a garbage can is to the right, and Twilight walks beside Yor, their backs to us. Twilight tosses the listening device into the garbage can. There is a question mark coming from Yor.
The third panel is of Twilight and Yor's walking legs and feet. Yor's dialogue bubble reads, "What did you just throw away?" And Twilight responds, "That gunk I picked off you earlier. You know, Yor..."

Twilight throws away the bug. That is also wild. It isn't like that bug could only be used on Yor; it wasn't somehow modified to only respond to her person. It was a device that could be used and reused on different targets, on people who actually are worthy of being bugged, etc. But instead of pocketing it for later use, Twilight throws it away.

Actually: he not only throws it away, he crushes it first. Perhaps because he couldn't stand to have that particular device around, the device he used when he doubted Yor?

Seems kind of irrational, Twilight.

Seems kind of telling.

I mentioned my last Twilight meta about his relationship with Anya: in that, I suggest Twilight recognised entering into a compact with Anya, which subtly modifies, for him, the motivations around Strix. I think something like that happens here, too. If Yor is willing to go to such apparent extremes to protect him, he'll do his utmost to protect her.

I've had this meta in my drafts for a while, but I'm chuffed by this panel from the most recent chapter, as it kind of underscores all this by Yor's positioning of herself:

Screenshot of a panel from Spy x Family manga chapter 105.1: The panel has Yor, Martha and Becky. Yor looks towards the right, her hand to her chin as she appears to be thinking with a little sweat drop indicating some pressure. Martha stands beside her with something of a dry expression and Becky is half-turned away, only her forehead visible, facing them. Yor's dialogue bubble reads, "I guess if I had to choose... I'd rather be the protector too. Martha says, "As would I." and Becky responds "Well, you're so strong, Master... And Martha too, I guess..."

(Of course the point is there isn't a dichotomy: they'll protect each other, as indicated by Yor's if I had to choose: she won't have to choose.)

Back to Twilight, at this point, he can still justify all this as being within mission parameters. Of course he should protect Yor: she is an innocent civilian and if anything happens to her it would threaten Strix. But if/when this line is tested, if/when there comes a point where protecting Yor is actually the option that may put Strix at risk or put him somehow in opposition to WISE, then we'll see.

And more importantly, Twilight will see, too.

Screenshot of a panel from Spy x Family manga chapter 103: Twilight and Yor are centred, sitting beside one another on a hillside, dressed for cooler weather with the wind blowing a bit. There is a bit of distance between them. They look outwards. Twilight holds his hand in his hand, his knees bent, his expression a little pensive. Yor rests her hands over her own knees, which are also bent, she looks calm, slightly smiling.

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"I'm staying"

I made an identity reveal situation...

In this, Loid and Yor are already aware of who they are, and highly probable an angsty situation took part before all of this. We know in canon (and hope) that they do confront each other. Not fight because I don't actually see Loid laying a finger on her, but more of a heated discussion. Too much lies and secrets are in game, so...

"I'm Staying"

But the thing is, they're already too deep in love. While the voice of reason says "we shouldn't be together, this shouldn't be happening" or as Yor says "I should kill you" the heart is stronger and they can't deny that no matter how much painful the truth is, there's also the truth that they can't deny what they feel for each other. So they give in to their desires and make love.

"I'm Staying"

(Yes, everyone, scenes are based on that drama lol)

In the afterglow, they come to a decision: they have to stay together. Things need to be work out but they have found a reason to go ahead and fight for it

"I'm Staying"

(I'm not counting the fact that here, they probably don't know Anya reads minds yet... which just imagine how far they would go to protect their baby)

So yes, they decide to give it a shot and fight for a greater good, together they can do more than separated and well, you will say "Lyly but it won't be that easy" Of course it won't be that easy. We are expecting something far more dramatic and painful, there will be angst. But this is something I envisioned while watching that scene. Loid and Yor love each other, they won't just throw it all away when they have found what they needed, maybe fake at first, but when you have a chance to make it real, why not do it?

"I'm Staying"

In the end, all sxf fans wish for the same, for them to be together in the end.

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Spy x Family Ch. 109: Is Donovan Desmond an Alien?

No, he's not.

Although Endo could go the "alien" route, given the story, I doubt that he will.

The human mind is fascinating. So, a better explanation for Melinda's declaration is that this is the way she's dealing with her fear. It's not normal to be scared of her husband; she knows that. So, what would be a good reason to be afraid of him? Of course, that it's not really him, that he's an alien!

Spy X Family Ch. 109: Is Donovan Desmond An Alien?

Her mind is trying to protect her. Anxiety is a way to protect us, and a lot of the times the mind throws strange fears and phobias to distract us from the real problem. In this case, it's her marriage. She's clearly in an abusive relationship and she wants out, but probably she can't divorce that man because of many reasons.

My guess is that Donovan Desmond changed after the war and because of that, their marriage deteriorated to the point of becoming an abusive relationship.

Before, I used to think that the marriage between Donovan and Melinda was a marriage of convenience, but now I think there was affection between them. It's hard to accept that someone you love has become abusive, so Melinda, who is into the occult, probably found an explanation (or more like a justification) for it. It's easier for her to think that someone she loves is an alien than for her to accept her husband is violent towards her and their children.

A lot of her mental health problems would probably be solved by a divorce, so she wouldn't be under her husband's control. However, given her status and the times (divorce was not very socially acceptable back in the 60s), she probably thinks divorce is not an option. On top of everything, her children are in the middle of it.

It's a complicated situation.

About Twilight

A good therapist would never tell their patient what to do. Their job is to help the person see the things they cannot see, and to empower them to make the best decision for them.

Twilight is not a therapist but he is a smart man. I think that he'll be capable of seeing what's behind Melinda's alien theory. The question is: what will he do with that information?

The most convenient thing for Operation Strix would be a reconciliation with Donovan Desmond. That would be the fastest way for Twilight to finally reach Desmond. However, that would also put Melinda at risk. Twilight is a spy, but he's also a human being, and most importantly, someone who has gone through domestic abuse as a child. So, I would like to think that even if he feels tempted to push Melinda into a reconciliation, he won't.

But, we'll see...

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