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“That night, Septon Eustace reports, Ser Criston Cole slipped into the princess’s bedchamber to confess his love for her. He told Rhaenyra that he had a ship waiting on the bay and begged her to flee with him across the narrow sea. They would be wed in Pentos or Tyrosh or Old Volantis, where her father’s writ did not run, and no one would care that he had betrayed his vows as a member of the Kingsguard. His prowess with sword and morningstar was such that he did not doubt he could find some merchant prince to take him into service. But Rhaenyra refused him. She was the blood of the dragon, she reminded him, and meant for more than to live out her life as the wife of a common sellsword. And if he could set aside his Kingsguard vows, why would marriage vows mean any more to him?”

And yet it was HER (a 16 year old girl) who 'seduced'(🤮) HIM(a 31 year old man)??

This is a man who has watched this child of SEVEN grow up into a 'women'. He has seen her grief and mourn her late mother. Seen her get mocked by her 'stepmother'. Seen her get challenged every waking moment.

And yet there are defending “poor” Criston’s honor and person, calling Rhaenyra is a wh*re because she seduced a grown man?.

Not once does Rhaenyra mention him after what happened, NOT ONCE. Criston on the other hand calls her a wh*re every chance he gets, sided against her, cause HAVOK during her wedding, convinced her half brother to take the throne just so wouldn't be queen. Full on died just so she wouldn't be queen

Rhaenyra never thought of him, and he spent the rest of his life abominating her.

That sounds exactly like a man who would throw acid on a woman because he was rejected by her.

You support every targaryen single targarayen whores in hotd, viserra rhaenyra Daenerys. It very much shows the kinda person out are. I know your bed is never empty.

Didn't know my baby girls Viserra and Daenerys were in the fanfic shitshow😱🤯. Also please tell me how any of them are wh0res. I am simply going to ignore what you just called me.

Personally, I've always perceived Rhaenyra as an entitled brat. That was sort of how she was portrayed in the book. Daemon was pretty nasty as well, as he groomed Rhaenyra. He was teaching her "how best to touch a man to bring him pleasure," if Mushroom is to be believed.

I am inclined to believe Mushroom.

I think most of Rhaenyra's behaviors at Daemon's fault, but I do think that Rhaenyra is mad as she wanted to torture her little brother for calling her bastard children 'bastards'. That isn't sane behavior, and nothing really excuses it. Aemond really was defending himself.

Alicent should have asked for Rhaenyra's boys to be swatted on the hands wooden spoon a good few times, not an eye. (Lucerys should not have had a dagger. Why would a child need a dagger?)

I don't think anyone thought Rhaenyra was still heir after Aegon was born. Viserys literally broke the laws of the entire realm for her.

War was inevitable, and there was nothing Rhaenyra could have done aside from marrying her infant brother.

I don't know if you've been asked something like this before. I also have no idea if the background to my question makes sense, but do you think there was any way Rhaenyra could have become Queen without breaking laws, murdering kin, and or bloodshed?

Who started breaking laws? —The Greens

Who started murdering kin?—The Greens

Who started bloodshed?— The Greens

In a monarchy, which Westeros is and has been for THOUSANDS of years the king's words is the law. Not that of his predecessors, but of the present ruling monarch.

Viserys named his 8 year old daughter as his heir, he varied from custom yes, but never broke law. HE IS THE LAW.

Viserys also broke custom by marrying Alicent, a daughter of a second son and not a ruling lord. A woman that could not give him anything of importance, not money, not a fleet, not any great allegiance. He married her simply because loved her. Being the second time he broke CUSTOM for a woman he loved. Rhaenyra and Alicent.

Even if Viserys allowed his 16 year old daughter to be wed to her 6 year old brother, you think that would prevent war? You people are simply stupid if you think so. Aegon (Otto & Alicent) could easily imprison Rhaenyra and simply put it out as she died, or simply even just end her life. And obviously with their children being young(if they had any, very unlikely) Aegon could crown himself as king rather than prince consort. And do you really think Alicent would let her precious son be king consort to a wanton woman? We see this with Jaehaerys' children Daenerys and Aemon.

I don't think anyone thought Rhaenyra was still heir after Aegon was born. Viserys literally broke the laws of the entire realm for her.

The Blacks? Literally many at court more than even the Greens supported Rhaenyra as heir. Even afterwards, during the war Rhaenyra had much more supporters than Aegon, even after her death.

Rhaenyra is mad as she wanted to torture her little brother for calling her bastard children 'bastards'. That isn't sane behavior, and nothing really excuses it. Aemond really was defending himself. Alicent should have asked for Rhaenyra's boys to be swatted on the hands wooden spoon a good few times, not an eye.

Right, Rhaenyra insisting for Aemond to be questioned sharply is mad but Alicent asking for a five year old's eye to be cut out is perfectly sane behaviour, yes? Be serious right now. Do you really think Viserys out of all people would let his son be tortured? Rhaenyra knew of that, she wanted Aemond to admit that his mother, Alicent has been spreading rumours abt easy as that.

It wasn't just for the insults either, Luke's nose was broken, Jace was hit in the head. And Joff was thrown into dragon droppings.

Afraid that the boy would raise the alarm, Prince Aemond shouted at him to be quiet, then shoved him backward into a pile of dragon droppings.

Aemond fought back, breaking Luke’s nose with a punch, then wrenching the sword from Joff’s hands and cracking it across the back of Jace’s head, driving him to his knees. As the younger boys scrambled back away from him, bloody and bruised, the prince began to mock them, laughing and calling them “the Strongs.”

Jace at least was old enough to grasp the insult. He flew at Aemond once again, but the older boy began pummeling him savagely…until Luke, coming to the rescue of his brother, drew his dagger and slashed Aemond across the face, taking out his right eye.

Aemond was TEN. Jace was SIX, Luke FIVE, Joff only THREE.

A 10 year old Pummeling (= boxing, repeatedly puching) and 6 year old is a perfectly good thing to do.

Lucerys should not have had a dagger. Why would a child need a dagger?

Because this child, is a prince? Almost everyone had daggers at that time, Kings, Queens, Princes, Princesses, Ladies, Lords, Commonborn, every one had daggers. They carried it for personal protection, even Lucerys.

Не was teaching her "how best to touch a man to bring him pleasure," if Mushroom is to be believed. I am inclined to believe Mushroom.

Even then, if Rhaenyra is such an 'entitled brat' why would she want to please the son of a steward of a Lord. And that too, not even a major Lord. Why would she want to please a no-one that became a someone because of HER.

Personally, I've always perceived Rhaenyra as an entitled brat. That was sort of how she was portrayed in the book.

She was portrayed as spoiled, yes. How could she not be? She came after many miscarriages and stillbirth, many other losses in the family. To her parents she was their first daughter, both of them motherless on their own. To Baelon, she was his first granddaughter after the loss of this wife, son, aemon and the rest of his siblings. To Jaehaerys and Alysanne, she was probably the first great-grandchild they met, she came after they lost most of their children (+Jocelyn who was as good as daughter, Rhaenys and probably never met her children till the feast and tourney of 98). She was a light in a time where her family was sinking from the inside.

I don't know how fighting for something that is yours, and have been for over TWENTY YEARS is seen as entitlement rather advocating and defending her own right?

There is someone who is portrayed as entitled, however. Alicent Hightower. Who thought simply because she popped out the King's son, means he should become a king. And this son who thought simply because he was a man with a cock, he was more fit to rule than a daughter without a cock.

Why should I explain the basic of things to strangers as if they're 5 and lack comprehension? Lol😭

(BOOK ONLY) Since some stupid people have come into this fandom, everything you hear makes you think whether they are just stupid or pretending to be stupid.

"Alicent did everything for 20 years while Rhaenyra was vacationing on Dragonstone"

The princess of Dragonstone living in dragonstone!??? Oh the misery😱😮 Are you hearing yourself? Like be serious right now.

It is the seat of the heir, the Prince/Princess of DRAGONSTONE. Dragonstone is her seat, where she rules. Until she becomes Queen where the seat will pass on to her hair and the next after that. As Prince of Dragonstone Rhaegar along with his family lived on Dragonstone.

She ruled on Dragonstone. After being heir and cupbearer before her marriage for years. And no she wasn't simply sitting on her ass and having sex and fun and vacationing as some of you put it. She had duties to be done, holding courts, hosting guests and visitors. It wasn't just some small island with no island either, it was an overlord to, House Velaryon, House Celtigar, House Bar Emmon, and House Sunglass(what a name). And she had to host those who were guests coming to pay respects and hear their problems and what not. And none of these mean that she was simply gone from Kingslanding either, it takes an hour? on dragon back to get there. We do know she was there present in some ways, the rivalry between her sons and Alicent's, her and Maester Gerardys coming to heal Viserys.

"And in these 20 years, Aegon bettered himself to rule."

Girl where? We know nothing of him from ages 6-12?. Afterwards, all we know of this time is he was fondling maids, fucking servantmaids and whore, getting drunk and spending his time in the streets of silk and that he was having bastards even after being married to a princess and having children. They literally found him in a brothel with a whore, while bringing him news of his father's death.

Not TG fans thinking Alyssa Targaryen would support Aegon??? Because ‘she is a boy mom’????? And who do you think are the boys she's mom to are? Rhaenyra's two big supporters. Alyssa had two living sons Daemon and Viserys, those two loved Rhaenyra to no end. Alyssa for a fact would stand with her sons before anyone else.

Baelon as well, Rhaenyra was his only living grandchild, who came after miscarriages and stillbirths. And a girl too, this man is said to have wanted a daughter. He was a mama's boy, always by his mother's side till her death. Loved this dead wife for years, till his last breath. Loved her more than life itself.

Hi I'm really sorry for the terrible comments you are getting. But I think it is mostly because House of the dragon is now canon. Which I get because people like you have being fans longer than hotd fans. Calling hotd fans terrible when you are the one making unnecessary rude comments and playing the victim Is just wrong.

In all seriousness, how is that fanfic shitshow supposed to be canon when the viewers doesn't even understand what the universe of 'A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE' is abt lol.

You people are the same people who said otherworldly valyrian beauty was a propaganda made up by the conquerors so they could be seen as worthier rulers. Like I wish I was making this up.

The same people who bullied a 60+ man who has been a (Tolkien, GRRM, fantasy) viewer for YEARS, all because he said the actor who was playing Renada in that shitshow was not beautiful enough to be 'THE REALM'S DELIGHT'. That's all he said, he didn't say the actor was ugly or any other negative comment. But people bullied him off the app.

GRRM HIMSELF HAS SAID NO OTHER CANON IS TRUE BUT THE BOOKS. Like this man, at his age has to earn his living somehow.

If you like the show canon and believe it to be canon, FINE. But coming into my asks and leaving unnecessary asks is perfectly sane behaviour.

How am I playing the victim here when I get called a pedophile because I like Daenerys and Viserra.

Daenerys was a 13 getting rap3d.

Viserra was a 15 year trying to escape a life of marital rap3 but died a virgin.

There’s this weird tendency among fandom types where they’ll take a character, and insist that they are fans of them, before changing their design, age, pronouns, backstory, blood type, species, hometown, favorite color, zodiac sign, medical history, and every other facet of their being.

They will then violently insist that this version is superior to the canon one and act like they “fixed” them and it’s like. Buddy that’s not the same character anymore. That’s just your own oc commiting identity fraud. Like. I get the desire to experiment with different interpretations of a story. But first of all it’s okay to just make an original character if that’s what you really want to do. And second of all, are you even really a fan of the character you “fixed” if they’re a completely different person afterwards?

Like. Idk dude for somebody who claims to be a fan you sure don’t seem to like them as they are :/

I genuinely do not understand how people think Rhaenyra wasn't usurped because she was a woman.

What quality does Aegon have that Rhaenyra doesn't aside from being a son?

Rhaenyra is older, and therefore more experienced. Has been the Princess of Dragonstone since she was EIGHT. Took hold and started ruling since SIXTEEN. She knows more about governing than the rest of her four half siblings combined. She has been her father, the King's cupbearer since before being named heir. Has followed her father almost everywhere since he became king. Attended meeting and counsels and all of the things relating to governorship.

Aegon had a princely tutorship, but what else? This man spent his adult(and teen) life in the streets of silk. Aside from his basic education as a prince, what else does he know? Viserys wasn't going to bother, since Aegon isn't even the second in line to the throne, it is Jace, has been since Aegon was 7. Otto wasn't even present till Aegon was atleast 13. Alicent wasn't an active ruler or decision maker like Alysanne was, so obviously not her either.

It wasn't for the lack of supporters either. Out of the six great houses of Westeros, Stark, Arryn, Tully, Lannister, Baratheon, Tyrell, THREE supported her. TWO supported Aegon. ONE, the Tyrells remained neutral, simply because most of their bannermen supported the greens. She was more loved and known throughout the realm.

I was reading a fic. It was an AU, so it very much varies from the original story, but the same characters and all, just a change in an incident happening. It's such a beautifully well written fic.

And one of the daily commenters, is this terribly rude person. The only comment they leave is pure hatred. They could just leave? But no comments on every single chapter, how terrible the writting style is, and manyyyy more things, I won't mention here. It's not just hate, it's full on harassment. They reported her acc on Tumblr, got her banned. She fully stopped writing on AO3.

Today I just clicked on their page, and I kid you not they are a writer themselves. A fic with OC. The story is so different from the original plot. The other characters only have the name, no personalities, no characteristics relating to the actual book characters.

Which is absolutely fine. Like you have your taste. Read or write whatever you want. Fine. What is fine not tho? Spreading hate to another person, who works hard just because they write something that you don't agree with. You are a writer, you know how it feels to get hate. If you don't like it or agree with it just leave. You don't have to bring down someone, so you can feel good about yourself. Some person you don't even know, has probably fully stopped writing just because you were an asshole. You are not cool, just terrible.

Have nothing good you say? Leave.

Baby Aegon traumatized from day 1 out of the womb XD