Flotsam And Jetsam (Part One)

Since I spend an inordinate amount of time staring at Obi-Wan, I cannot help but noticed that he wears his robe differently from other Jedi. Granted, the Jedi's outfit are not identical but they has similar design. Obi-Wan, even though is wearing pretty much the same as Mace, has his inner robe collar higher and more tightly wrapped. This is remarkably different from when he was a Padawan/Knight, now that he is a Master. What do you think? As a writer, do you have any headcanon or theories?

Ah, my dear Anon, you have touched a nerve here!! Yes, I have noticed it. AND IT DRIVES ME INSANE. Prepare yourself for a ridiculously long reply (forgive me!!!).

(I feel the need to drop a disclaimer here, right at the beginning. I am a history nerd… like… it’s a driving passion. So please excuse any excessive shouting that takes place during this post.)

WHAT ARE JEDI ROBES BASED ON?

I think to begin we need to at least put into context what the Jedi costumes are modeled after. There are 2 major historical reference points for Jedi robes.

1. Tunics and Tabards worn by knights:

Tunics are worn under the tabard, and sometimes there’s even an under-tunic that goes, you guessed it, under the main tunic. The tabard went over the tunic and was often split between the legs so the warrior could walk, fight, and ride a horse more easily.

2. The Japanese Kimono:

Holy crap, do you have any idea how hard it is to find a picture of a proper men’s kimono that isn’t a bathrobe???? The pic I ended up finding isn’t exactly what I wanted but I think you get the general idea. Fun side fact: the large belt worn around a kimono is called an obi :) How interesting…

So, as you can see, the Jedi wear something that is a mix of these two historical vestments:

WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OBI-WAN KENOBI’S ROBES??

You’re right, Anon, in The Phantom Menace Kenobi’s attire is really quite open and loose. Anyone else remember seeing Obi-Wan’s chest, because I certainly do… and I would like to see even more of it!

Well… I guess you kind of see his throat… but I’ll take whatever I can get.

Side note: Do you also remember how we got to see Kenobi covered in sweat?? Please don’t tell me I was the only person who enjoyed that :)

Both Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon have loose fitting tunics and tabards that are open at the neck.

Can I take a moment to point our how utterly RIDICULOUS the size of their sleeves are??? It is COMPLETELY impractical from a fighting point of view. This is why vambraces and bracers exist!!! Please use them, Star Wars!!!

See, Dave Filoni gets it!!! They gave Kenobi some pretty sweet vambraces in The Clone Wars… because NO JEDI WANTS TO MAKE A FOOL OF HIMSELF BY GETTING CAUGHT UP IN HIS OWN MASSIVE BELL SLEEVES WHILE TRYING TO PERFORM ACTS OF HEROISM!!!!!!

For god’s sake, the sleeves are so fucking massive they actually billow in the breeze!!!!

Moving on…

In Attack of the Clones Obi-Wan is suddenly super uptight and sporting a godforsaken mullet, which I can almost forgive in this scene because he is still beautiful…

And in Revenge of the Sith Kenobi is practically swallowed up and choking on an INSANE amount of fabric…

None of this is PRACTICAL!! WHY WOULD YOU GO TO WAR DRESSED LIKE THIS?!?!?!?!?! I mean, look at Ewan trying to get his sleeve on. He needs a bloody assistant to help him!!!

IS THIS SYMBOLIC OR IS THIS PURE STUPIDITY?

You know what? I’m still not sure if this costume is brilliant or laughable.

Symbolically you can say that Obi-Wan became more set in his ways as he transitioned from TPM to ROTS, that he became more constricted by his beliefs and less able to stray from the Jedi Code. His costume develops more layers and thicker fabric and it’s bound very tightly around his throat. It looks rather heavy and stifling and suffocating.

However, if you take CW Kenobi into account, it kind of makes that transition from AOTC to ROTS a little harder to understand. He’s less fanatical in The Clone Wars; you can see little moments of Obi-Wan’s conflict – there’s a lot of “do as I say, not as I do” in CW Kenobi.

As a writer I guess I see his costume in 2 different ways. In ROTS Obi-Wan is a Jedi Master in his prime, wearing all the symbolic pieces of a powerful uniform. It’s bigger and more imposing because he is bigger and more powerful than ever. However, he has been through incredibly painful experiences. And though he has remained true to the Jedi Code, the harder he clings to his ideals, the more suffocating and toxic they become. The very fact that his tunic creeps higher and higher up his neck makes me feel almost as if it were going to choke him.

WAS THE JEDI COSTUME AN ACCIDENT?

Do you want to know why I think this costume might just be stupidity? The Jedi robes were an accident. Technically, Luke is wearing Jedi clothes in Return of the Jedi. He has a tunic and tabard, but his clothes are close-fitting and more practical for movement and dexterity:

I’ve read that at the end of Return of the Jedi, when Anakin appears with Obi-Wan and Yoda as Force ghosts, that was a last minute decision by the filmmakers and they did not have a costume planned. So they grabbed whatever fit the actor – a massive robe from a character that had lived on Tatooine. The massive robes that Obi-Wan wears in A New Hope were not necessarily meant to be his Jedi robes but rather meant as desert-appropriate-attire. Look who else is wearing them:

I’m fairly certain his robe is actually a terrycloth bathrobe ^^^ LOL!!

Even baby Luke is wearing a Jedi-like tunic in A New Hope.

Honestly, though, either way, whether it was a mistake or it was deliberate, costumes in films are always supposed to tell you something about the character. So if you’ve noticed that Obi-Wan is wearing his costume in a way that makes him different, that’s done on purpose by the filmmaker and it’s brilliant that you picked up on it. Well done, Anon!!!

This is the longest post in all of history… goodbye for now. Sorry I rambled on for so long :)

tHIS IS TOO MCUH

Angst n5 w/ Fives and Dogma?🥺

I was 100% worried I would not be able to write this properly. These are both characters I haven’t really written- if anything I have barely written any of the clones. I love them, each and every single one. I just turn into this anxious mess of a ball that is afraid I am going to slaughter them with my words.

I have a lot of feelings about how Dogma’s blind loyalty was used against him. He made many mistakes, but he was so painfully manipulated. He and his vod’e deserved so much better.

SO ONTO THE ANGST~!

“Forget it, you’re a fucking asshole.”

☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ 

I’m fine, Sir.

The blaster trembled, the kriffing blaster trembled in his hands. If he closed his eyes then he could see how each piece of it vibrated thanks to the shaking of his limbs. Krell was laughing at him. His vod’e were against him because he had been so blind, so painfully blind. 

You ever think that the General knows what he is doing?

He had nearly dragged Tup down with him. He had followed along after the person he had thought he was supposed to trust. His brothers had cried out, lashed hard against the injustices, but he had kept his feet on the path he had chosen. Each footfall stained his soul. 

Well I, for one, agree with the General’s plan!

Vod’e turned on vod’e. The sound of each shot rang in his ears as they fell like training droids. Broken, twisted, betrayed. They had raised their weapons against each other because they had been manipulated and yet his eyes still refused to see the truth. What the mind could see, the heart rejected. 212th against 501st. 

Betrayed. 

Dead.

I think you’re all overreacting.

They had been made for the Jedi. They had been trained for the Jedi. 

They had been corrupted by the Jedi.

Unmarked graves lived in his mind and he told himself that the General cared. The General felt each of their deaths, rather like he felt each death. The Remembrance was growing longer as more and more of his vod’e kept marching on. 

NO! WE HAVE ORDERS!

When he closed his eyes he could see Fives grabbing the blaster from his hands. He could see Rex smiling at him. The Jedi was dead. There would be no Remembrance for the monster that had played with them like toys. The vod’e, he realized far too late, always came first. Dogma knew he should have believed sooner, listened to his mind sooner, should have just done anything sooner. He had argued that the General cared, that he knew what he was doing, and the payment for that blind loyalty was genocide. 

You were the biggest fool of all, Dogma.

“So what happens now,” he leaned his head against the wall as he kept his gaze averted. He didn’t want to see the heartbreak in Fives’ eyes. His wrists sported new ornaments suited for his rank. Traitor. Jedi Killer. The Fool. 

Prisoner.

“They mentioned a trial, vod,” Fives sank down onto the bench in the hallway. A faint sound of discomfort or exhaustion left him. Dogma wasn’t sure which it was, but he had to guess it had to do with the fact the war kept dragging on. He didn’t even know how long his brother would be planetside, but he knew he was wasting time by being here with him. Time better suited for anyone else.

“I...did the right thing,” he whispered more to himself than anything. General Krell wouldn’t have stopped, he would have just kept on using vod’e like cannon fodder because they were just clones. Clones were grown to die. Dogma hated himself, but what he hated most of all was how Krell had shaken his faith in loyalty. 

“Yeah, you did the right thing. We aren’t going to let you go down for this,” Fives’ voice was pitched low so only he could hear him. “Dogma, none of us blame you-”

A dry laugh escaped him as he shook his head. The action made it feel like the very air was scratching at his eyes. They burned. “I blame me.”

“Dogma, just listen to me-”

“Forget it, you’re a fucking asshole.” His eyes kept on burning as his cheeks grew wet. If he kept his gaze averted, set on the wall, then neither of them would mention it. “You shouldn’t have come here. You should be with someone who deserves your loyalty.”

He had to push Fives away, had to push away any other vod’e that might show up. They didn’t need to be corrupted by him. They needed to march forward without worrying about what he hadn’t done fast enough. The sound of a fist slamming into the forcefield had him jumping slightly. His head lolled to the side and he fixed Fives with a look. 

“You deserve our loyalty! We look after our own, you bastard.” 

Dogma couldn’t fight the sad smile that curled across his lips. “But I didn’t, vod, but I didn’t.” 

I counted on blind loyalty like yours.

“May I kiss you?” 

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I'm actually thinking of making my own Clone OC. Any tips?

Sure, I can offer what I’ve got! I’m gonna try and separate this answer into a few sections, but here’s the image folder I have for all of my clone refs to start with-

http://sta.sh/215ce27ryzyi 

I update this every now and then when needed, and I’ll be using images from there for this answer! There are many more named clones and image refs out there on the internet, don’t be afraid to google something if you need help!

Faces:

Clone’s (obviously) all have the same basic face shape (save for the Bad Batch, but I’m not gonna get into them for this). 

They all have warm brown skin and wide/prominent noses. You can look up the live action actor for Jango (Temuera Morrison) for more IRL face references too if you need to. Hair customization, tattoos, facial hair and scarring can do A LOT to distinguish clones from each other. Hair can be dyed and cut however, so long as it fits in a helmet (like with Tup, he has long hair tied up into a tight bun.) Eyebrows are also customizable. Pluck them into a different shape, shave them off, dye them, have fun with it!

Armor:

Clone armor has a lot of room for customization as well. Clones can paint whatever they’d like on them, but if their squad/battalion or whatever has a specific color scheme then they’ll mostly stick with those colors

Looking up different kinds of clone armor for different situations/ranks is helpful too! This video does a breakdown of every type of clone trooper rank/type:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guzs7a622Bc&t=5s

Names:

Clones are all given numbers at birth. To distinguish each other, they all give each other more unique names as they grow up. They can be named for a personality habit, a distinct moment from their training / any point in their life, or they can have normal sounding names like Gregor. It’s all preference, but some clones are stuck with a name that came from a reputation regardless of if they like it or not. 

Here’s image compilations of some Clone Commanders/Captains/ARC troopers and more for examples:

Personality:

Clones are all unique individuals. They have varying personalities, likes/dislikes, habits, etc. Consider their backstory and experiences in training/on the field to help shape them, be sure to do your best to give your clones aspects of their personalities that make them feel like real and believable people! 

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There’s plenty more you can do for making your clones, but this post is just a rundown of the basics. I hope any of what I said here was helpful to you, and have fun making your clones!

Falcons (Prey/Wounded Warriors) by Leila Jeffrey

I DIDNT ACTUALLY finish the 501st ones yet but here are some 212thers for the Clone ID POwerpoint Part 1 Part 2

Okay my brain is fried but I must type something out so here have a transgender Obi-Wan codywan au that nobody asked for-

So like, disclaimer, I don't hate Satine but she is painted in a negative light in this au idea so please know that I don't actually think she's a shitty person or character, but I am using her as like the asshole in this AU and I apologize in advance, please don't hate me.

But I was thinking about that "I don't like your beard" line but in the context that Obi-Wan is ftm trans, and, when he had a thing with Satine, it was pre-transition.

And in this, Satine is a lesbian and she's not over [I'm gonna go with Obiaania as his dead name, Obi for short] when he shows back up to help her with Concordia/Death Watch.

And like, she heard Jedi Master Kenobi is coming to investigate, and was expecting someone very different. Which is why she's very passive-aggressive flirting-but-not with him the whole time. She calls him Master Kenobi, or Obi, but not Obi-Wan, because she misses her girlfriend who she isn't over, and though she doesn't want to be openly antagonistic, she feels betrayed.

And Obi-Wan is just. Sad because he still likes Satine a lot, and was hoping they could reconnect as friends, seeing as they can't be lovers anyways. But she's pushing his buttons, and making sly digs at who he used to be, and it gets on his nerves really fast.

Enter Anakin, Rex, and Cody after the investigation, as they prepare to ship out to Coruscant to prevent republic forces from being sent to handle the Death Watch and Separatist threat. Anakin is oblivious, because he is, Ahsoka and Padmé have all his brain cells. He misses the underlying issues and teases Obi-Wan about his "girlfriend" which makes Obi-Wan uncomfortable for obvious reasons. (I'm thinking Obi-Wan has never brought up his gender identity to Anakin, because it's not important, and not his business, and doesn't affect their training at all. And Anakin has seen him shirtless at some point obviously but his first thought at seeing scars on Obi-Wan's chest isn't "top surgery", it's probably more like "mission gone wrong", so Anakin is just, clueless.)

Cody however, files Obi-Wan’s medical reports and IS aware of the situation, and immediately dislikes Satine, and maybe at some point drags Anakin aside to tell him to back off about the girlfriend jokes without outing Obi-Wan to him.

And like, the last straw for Cody is when Satine is walking off the ship with Obi-Wan and goes "I don't like your beard, it hides too much of your pretty face". Like obviously Obi-Wan and Cody aren't going to fight her there in broad daylight but Cody is thinking about it.

Idk I just want Cody to step in and go "Lucky for you, you won't have to see his handsome face again. I have to look at his mug everyday, and I happen to like the beard," or something.

Anyways she leaves, and Obi-Wan looks at Cody like "So you think I'm handsome, hm?" And Cody's just "only a blind fool wouldn't."

And more mushy soft flirting and hugs and comfort because they deserve it.

Sorry this post is a whole mess and a half but I just couldn't stop thinking about this ahah. I'm not gonna write it but if anyone wants to add on or adopt it please feel free to ♡♡♡