Some Related Thoughts And Speculation

Homestuck and the 12 Archetypes

I recently came across something called the Twelve Archetypes. Apparently it’s a concept by psychologist Carol S. Pearson, inspired by the Jungian notions of personality types and archetypes, as well as Joseph Campbell’s theory of a monomyth (aka The Hero’s Journey).

And, well… Wow. Twelve hero archetypes. That is absolutely the Homestuck class system. While not perfect, they translate really well, too!

Witch = Magician

Heir = Everyman / Orphan

Mage = Explorer / Seeker

Seer = Sage

Prince = Ruler

Bard = Jester

Maid = Creator

Sylph = Caregiver

Thief = Revolutionary / Rebel / Destroyer

Rogue = Lover

Knight = Hero / Warrior

Page = Innocent

Apparently there’s a whole formal, official, scientific-based personality test regarding the Twelve Archetypes called the Pearson-Marr Archetype Indicator (PMAI). (Free version of the test here.)

Information on the Twelve Archetypes: The Pearson Archetypal System The 12 Common Archetypes Pearson-Marr Archetype Indicator (PMAI) (Wikipedia) Pearson’s heroic archetypes

How am I just now learning of this? There's no way Hussie could have NOT based the SBURB class system on this concept. I don't even.

Caliborn’s session consists of pool ball planets he has to sink in order...

...Saving the 8-ball planet for last.

Similarly, Lord English is destroying dream bubbles and cracking paradox space in a procession, seeking to destroy Calliope:

UU: now he is completely obsessed with finding my soUl and wiping me oUt for good, even if it means tearing apart the reality that sUrroUnds Us. UU: he will never feel he has won Until all traces of me are gone.

And where is Calliope?

In a dream bubble resembling an 8-ball, the final ball to sink in order to win the game.

I am getting some serious The Matrix vibes.

JAKE: [Lil Sebastian] would be PERFECT for this tea party! JAKE: Like the white rabbit and all.

Remember both Neo and Alice followed the White Rabbit.

JAKE: Nepeta right? You must be the alice of the group. JAKE: That would make sense! Since you just got here and appear to be very confused about this situation. JAKE: By my estimation that makes you a dead ringer for the alice of this tea party!

Jasprosesprite^2 looks like Rose’s dream self because princess.

Jaspers + Eldritch Princess + Rose. Rose is the princess of Derse’s moon. Her dream pajamas are princess clothes.

Useful Classpect Tools and Resources

Classpect Tests

There are many Hero Title tests available, but the two I like best are thepageofhopes' and inaniloquacity's. Both of them use tests from widely accepted psychology theories as a basis.

While both tests are not without their flaws, they provide a good starting point for determining a Hero Title.

Information

My Classes Chart and Aspect Keywords posts provide a simplified overview of the classes and aspects.

InfinityWhale has an amazing Ultimate Classpect Post describing each aspect and each class in detail.

Dahni has in-depth descriptions of ALL 144 (standard) HERO TITLES! An excellent resource for understanding each mythological role.

Space and Time

Light and Void

Hope  and Rage

Heart and Mind

Breath and Blood

Life and Doom

Dahni also describes the tendencies and challenges of each class separately (search her Class tag for detailed information).

BladekindEyewear has a lot of information on classes and aspects, particularly related to duality and inversion. He's basically a father of Classpect Theory, as InfinityWhale, Anna, Dahni, and many others (myself included) base their works on his class- and aspect-related theories.

Multiple Intelligences as Aspects

Visual-Spatial: Space

Musical: Time

Verbal-Linguistic: Light (and Void)

Existential: Hope (and Rage)

Intrapersonal: Heart

Logical-Mathematical: Mind

Bodily-Kinesthetic: Breath

Interpersonal: Blood

Naturalist: Life (and Doom)

More information on Multiple Intelligences (MI) Theory:

The Nine Types of Intelligence

MI Table

Theory of multiple intelligences (Wikipedia)

The song “Eternity, Served Cold” plays in both [S] Caliborn: Enter and [S] Collide. There is some overlap, but the first half of the song plays in the former, and the second half in Collide.

[S] Caliborn: Enter ends here:

And in [S] Collide, when the rest of the song begins to play, it starts here:

This has to be intentional and significant.

Today marks 1 ½ years since I started this blog, and also this is my 100th post!

Stats and highlights:

Posts: 100

Followers: 392

Total notes: 13913

Notes in past 6 months: 9113

Began sideblog @pixie-styx-mix

Top 10 popular posts in past 6 months:

Classes Chart

Karkat x Clover

The Mirthful Messiahs: Lord English and Calmasis?

The First Guardian of Beforus

Cinnamon Roll Classes

PM cue ball head

Jack loses arm parallels

John the Wizard

LOTAK’s destruction and Gamzee

“Maimed Clown. Undead Cat. Impaled Crow. Omnipotent Dog.”

Thanks, everyone, for your support for the past year and a half! It’s been a wild ride!

At this point, I’m not sure what the fate of this blog will be. I’m still disillusioned by Homestuck’s finale, although I realize an epilogue is in the works. I might do some character analyses, non-predictive theory posts, classpect stuff, or other posts, but we’ll see. I do still have some asks I need to answer. (Thanks for your patience on those.) I’m considering adding in some non-Homestuck content, perhaps applying classpect analyses to characters from other works, to keep it tied to HS.

At some point, I intend to read Problem Sleuth. (I know, I know, I’m behind. XP ) Maybe I could comment on that and sort of... pseudo-live blog as I go? I’d also like to re-read Homestuck now that it’s “finished”, and see if I can glean anything new. (Plus I want to make note of what’s been left unresolved.)

What would you guys like me to do? What content are you interested in seeing on this blog?

So, Knights are a Warrior class. I just realized that is absolutely a stealth pun:

Warrior = worrier

Remember when John said 'are you trying to fix your romance problems' while following Terezi's list maybe starting a blackrom with him is what was meant by that.

Heheheh, yep. I had the same thought.

In fact, if my double retcon theory holds any water, and eventually John lets Vriska die, it could be an interesting way to “fix” Terezi’s relationship problems with Gamzee (without Vriska being there). Her caliginous feelings could shift focus from Gamzee to John instead, thus not leaving her a total wreck by the end of the meteor trip.