Hello....just want to say thank you so much for your posts, especially, about SVSSS....Can I tell you something? I just started reading MXTX works last year, and since then, start searching many meta analytical posts about them....And most of them favored MDZS and in second place TGCF.... Not many of them made SVSSS their no #1 favorite....And then I found your tumblr.....
Thanks so much for sharing your writings, they're amzing....šš„°š¤©
Can I ask your opinion on something? One of the person (that I found) who also loves SVSSS, said that they hate SV Binghe because he seems more "pathetic" compared to PIDW Binghe (which they loved)? They said, SV Binghe seems more whinny and childish, etc....I don't really agree but don't know how to said that....
Wat do you think about that thought above? Is there still a bit PIDW Binghe inside the SV Binghe?
Also do you agree that Tianlang Jun and Zhuzhi Lang are a few of the best villain characters from MXTX works?
Sorry for this super long ask, and kinda stupid questions from me at the end....
svsss supremacy yeah scum villain truly is the neglected eldest child⦠but there are a bunch of really great blogs here that post primarily scum villain content! @/piosplayhouse has an ask with a collection of links on their page with art, fic, meta, etc. from various folks and itās a really great resource to check out some of the amazing creators in our little corner here :)
so, hereās the thing about comparing sv!luo binghe vs pidw!luo binghe. i think they have one major difference, and itās rooted in how they express their anger and dissatisfaction with the world.
pidw!binghe, after being pushed into the abyss by shen qingqiu, learns to externalise all his anger. think, āthe world has never shown me any kindness and therefore the world itself is fundamentally flawed, in order to survive i must take what i am owed,ā in the sense of strength and power and influence. pidw!luo binghe becomes saintly ruler and demon emperor because itās his way of exacting revenge, because he thinks that itās the worldās penance to him after putting him through so much suffering for so long. thereās no end goal in itāno shizun to win back, no peaceful disciple days to return toāand so he becomes this bottomless well of want and anger, which exacerbates the problem. āany slight will be repaid a hundredfold,ā indeed, because heās never experienced satisfaction, and will never know when to stop. his want is aimless and cold and destructive, without direction to temper it. what is there to be sticky to when he doesnāt want anything directly?
scum villain luo binghe, who received three years of kindness from the man who later on pushed him into the endless abyss, learns this from it: āthere is something fundamentally wrong with me, therefore i must make the world my own to become better, to justify my existence, to regain even a glimpse of that kindness i received.ā any time we see luo bingheās anger, itās predominantly internalisedāhe hates himself so deeply because even when he received kindness, there was something to take it away. he interprets the common theme in these losses to be himself, his own faults and failings as a living being. but he only wants one thing, and he wants it so desperately that it nearly eats him alive. in some ways, heās pathetic and sticky because of thisāhe knows exactly what he wants, and that heāll do anything to get it, and once he has it he wonāt feel the need to go out and get more power or influence. so long as luo binghe has shen qingqiu at his side, the rest of the world can go fuck itself. it was all only ever a way of increasing his value in shen qingqiuās eyes, to make him regret tossing luo binghe aside and take him back.
but pidw!binghe and sv!binghe share the dna of their personalities otherwiseāpowerful, decisive, unhinged, manipulative blackened protagonists with generally questionable methods of getting what it is they want or need. both binghes are capable of human stick-ifying someone. both binghes learn to view the world as strictly transactional: nothing ever freely given, only ever earned or taken by force. shen qingqiu is a sacred figure for them both in that heās pivotal to luo bingheās worldview, and where his anger is aimed to cut. internal, external. himself, the entire world. and, i would say, both binghes are sticky and patheticāhe was, after all, originally written by shang qinghua as a thinly veiled fantasy proxy of himself, and shang qinghua is notoriously both sticky and pathetic. you can make all the arguments you like, but i think something many writers can agree on is the excising of our own traits and implanting them into our characters, seeing those traits get either amplified or frozen over depending on the events that happen to them. pidw!binghe is never safe to be sticky and pathetic, and because of that he never wants anything enough to be that way. sv!binghe was safe and sticky for three years, and so does everything in his power to return to that.
(additionally: thereās an excellent twitter thread posted by @/zykamiliah that really cuts to the heart of luo bingheās āchildish and whinyā behavior and the gist is that itās an act. itās an act to make himself palatable enough to love, itās an act to make shen qingqiu comfortable giving him affection. itās an act, borne out of traits that he just amplifies because heās scared he wonāt be loveable otherwise.)
all this is to say that there are, of course, so many differences between pidw!binghe and sv!binghe. i know theyāre listed out in the bingge vs bingmei extra (which i wonāt have until november, sigh), but āsticky and patheticā is actually a trait i think they share, only it manifests differently based on their experiences, is either amplified to increase his chances of receiving affection or crushed deep into him to ensure he doesnāt lose what heās taken for himself.
(also you pose an EXCELLENT question regarding tianlang jun and zhuzhi-lang that i really do love but this is so long already so iāll answer that in another post and link this one)
yeah sure Across the Spiderverse is about being doomed by the narrative and knowingĀ youāre doomed by the narrative, but also itās about how different people react to that, and how no one reaction is the rightĀ one, like Peter B. has lived as Spider-man long enough thatās gone through mostĀ of the ācanon eventsā and heās in a place where heās like āyeah, alright, I can work with thisā and is afraid of doing anything drastic because after being a screw-up for so long and finally, finally getting it rightĀ wouldnāt you be afraid making a mistake again?
And Miguel is angry but resigned because the one time he tried to defy the narrative it spat in his face and beat him to the ground. So now heās doing what he genuinely belives is to everyoneās benefit. Without a hint of flexibility. Heās even angrier when Miles suggests that fate can be defied both because heās convinced Miles is wrongĀ and is going to get people killedĀ and also if Miles isĀ right than Miguel has to reckon with the fact that heās convinced so many Spider-people to justĀ āfollow the scriptā and let their loved ones died because he was convinced there was no fighting the narrative. That not everyone is as doomed as he is.
And Hobie, who knows he might be doomed but is dead-set on spitting in the narrativeās face for as long as he can regardless. A different kind of acceptance. A kind of acceptance thatās covered in spikes and has teeth.Ā If the narrative is gonna take him down heās taking as much bad guys as he can before he bites it. And heās isnāt going to be nice or polite about it, and he sure as shit aināt gonna be quiet.Ā Proper fucking punk, right there.
And Gwen, who is on the fence, but is sad and tired and just doesnāt have the strength to try anymore. She doesnāt have a home to come back to, or at least doesnāt think so, sheās stressed out and angry and she found out that as Spider-Woman that was always going to happen to her. Sheās ready to give up, because being doomed is kinda freeing, if she was always doomed to fail, lose her friend, lose her dad, than it takes the pressure off. Sad as it was she could live with that. Until she sees Miles bite and fight and screamĀ when he finds out heās doomed, and that one little push gives her the courage to tryĀ and find out just how doomed she really is.
And Miles!! Free spirit, radical free thinker,Ā ājust let him spread his wings, manā Miles Morales. Who is trying so, soĀ hard to figure out what his narrative even is,Ā but is determined that he can figure it out, that he canĀ spread his wings and manage on his own and find his place and be himself. Miles finding out he might be doomed is a slap in the face that heās completely unprepared for. And he denies it completely. He refusesĀ to lay down and just take it, heās going to punch and kick and save everyone, no matter that every other Spider-person, Ham and Miguel and Gwen and every one, whoāve been doing this spider thing for much long tell him he canāt. And this radical rejection earns him pity, and earns him enemies, but heās not backing down. He canātĀ back down. Because even if he isĀ doomed heāll never be able to forgive himself if he doesnāt even make an attempt.
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Thinking about how Ballister tried to convince Nimona to conform when heās been singled out and targeted his whole life ā how the whole kingdom was against someone outside the original knight bloodline joining them, how he had to work harder and still faced backlash, how even on the day he was supposed to be officially made one of the knights he still visually stood out because his armor was black while everyone (save Ambrosius, Glorithās descendant) wore white
He was ignorant and sheltered, and he was also a queer elder seeing a queer kid embrace things that scare him because he was hurt just for existing ā imagine how much worse it wouldāve been if he intentionally rocked the boat like that
Thinking about how, despite everything he tried, he was still labeled the villain and she was still called a monster, and eventually he was willing to throw away everything he knew and loved to protect her. Thinking about the joy he experienced once he started cutting loose and questioning all the limits he put on himself and others put on him. Thinking about how he was tokenized and targeted growing up, thrust in the spotlight from a young and how even then very few people were willing to try and actually see him for who he is. Thinking about how he saw Nimona
Thinking about evolution and growth within the queer community, about in-fighting from actual good (if fear and ignorance based) intentions can be even more damaging than malicious intent, about how for some queer people being seen as ājust like cishetsā is a matter of life or death while for others embracing being ādifferentā is the thing that keeps them going, and how empathy and understanding of others can unintentionally heal yourself. Something something something, we come together and then we win
sorry yeah we queer coded your boyfriend. heās arguing with his brash and emotionally reserved rival over something trivial for comedic effect. they have a special, vaguely suggestive bond that sets them apart. hm? oh uhh. yes they are blue and red
imprisoned for his crimes of being too babey
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I decided to make several rec lists this year. Since @veliseraptor asked for SVSSS recs, Iām starting with these. Iām not good with descriptions but I can guarantee that everything on this list is amazing.
Also I tried to sort it into pairings, most of which inlcude some version of Binghe and some verison of SQQ, but sometimes the lines between bingmei and bingge and even sy and sj are made blurry by fics, so please take this division with a grain of salt.
EDIT: I originally comliped this rec list in March 2021 and am now updating it in December 2021. For those fics Iāve added now I put (NEW) in the list.
Bingqiu:
High Mountain, How I Long by Minimalistless.
Huan Hua palace divergence
white amaranth, purple eggplant by tshirt.
Postcanon, domestic, dealing with trauma.
honesty is such a lonely word by chrysaliseater.
truth serum, trial (!) fic Songs of a Wayfarer by foxfloweringĀ
An absolutely stunning ballet AU. Reads like Virginia Woolf if she were into danmei.
(NEW) Deluxe System 2.0: Co-op Mode! by kitsunealyc
What if Shen Jiuās soul never left his body, and he and Shen Yuan had to cooperate. The perfect fix-it for SJ. Qijiu as side-ship.Ā
(NEW) Unfinished Business by kitsunealyc
Bingge gets back to his teenage self and gets a system. Shen Qingqiu is Shen Jiu but he was Shen Yuan in between and got therapy. Interesting SJ/SY character blend. (WIP)
(NEW) dew over by ataratah
After self-destructing, SY comes back as rogue cultivator Peerless Cucumber. He and LBH start a casual relationship while LBH pines for his ādeadā shizun. Cue SY being jealous of himself (that gotta be one of my favorite tropes). SJ also makes appearance (with hints of qijiu).
Bingjiu:
Shadows can bleed by SenZen_Travers
my favorite fic in this fandom. LBG resurrects SJ and tries to change him to his liking.
ŠŠµ в Š½Š°Ńей влаŃŃŠø by ŠŠøŠŗŃŃŃŠøŠ¹ ŠŠŗŃŠ°ŃŠ“Ń.
After his death, Shen Jiu returns to the time when he suffered his qi deviation and tries to change his fate. Amazing strategizing. (Russian, WIP)
point of view by acernor
SJ and LBG changes places, super hot hate sex ensues
(NEW) the taste of blood, the claim of love by newamsterodam
the one where lbh makes sj his advisor. it works very well.
(NEW) Там, гГе Š½Š°Ń никогГа не Š±Ńло - Nuoba
very hot fix-it with foot fetish
(NEW) Ā only want love (if itās torture) ā Chesra
A lovely AU where LBH engages in a demon courtship with SJ
(NEW) faithless love (the only hoax i believe in) ā Chesra
SJ puts LBG under a love potion. Delicious plot twists. (WIP)
(NEW) more delicate than the golden blossoms by xiaolongbaobei
LBG changes his treatment of his prisoner. beautifully evocative language, the best description of LBHās demonic court ever. (WIP)
(NEW) from your knees by persicae
assassination attempt as foreplay. bingjiu at their finest
(NEW) Proud Immortal Demonās System by Queen_Buster
Bingge relives his disciple days with a mission from the System to make himself a kinder shizun. Interesting plot; a satisfying read. (WIP)
Bingyuan:
How to Handle Laundry when Traveling Inter-Dimensionally by hoarous
hot washing machine sex
Reflected in Shadow by ibex_ascendant
LBG kidnaps SQQ. Cool worldbuilding, among other things. Has Non-Consensual Hurt/Comfort as a tag, how cool is that! (WIP)
to love another (and to learn yourself) by nyoomerr
LBG kidnaps SY (who was never SQQ and only read the novel), then re-learns how to be human. sweet.
(NEW) pay no attention to the man by PandaFlowerĀ
SJ is reborn as SY (but still in xianxia setting), LBG forces him to marry him. (WIP)
(NEW) the best luo binghe by neery
LBG roleplays himself where SY roleplays SQQ. Cue hot and emotional CNC. Ā others (NEW) voluntary victim (tie the noose) by technoratĀ Ā Ā
bingliujiu the most delicious sj whump
(NEW) recovery by moonsheen
qijiu, sj is rescued by sy and co and nursed to health
(NEW) The Quest To HappinessĀ by karrot
shen jiu/everyone. A funny, feel-good omegaverse fic
blowing my own trumpet
鬼ē«|ghost light
bingjiu. LBG manipulates SJās memory to make him think theyāre married. (WIP)
a point of honor
liujiu. Liu Qingge rapes Shen Jiu during his qi deviation and tries to make amends. (WIP)
donāt let them throw me away
liujiu with side bingqiu. human stick! sj gets transported into the world of svsss, where he ends up in lqgās charge (four finished instalments, two more to come)
Iāve got more SV fics but am too lazy to create so many links so youāll have to look at my AO3 for that.
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sfkdghksjlf I have dumb bitch disease, I thought I already posted this. Iām not going to do all of the prompts but uhhhhh I canāt NOT draw at least some of them
also I FINALLY found a website with some good free textures and now Iām going to use them for everything
Lan Wangji is just as culpable as Jiang Cheng in how things panned out in regards to the Wen Remnants and Wei Wuxianās fate. The only real difference is how he actually acknowledges it while Jiang Cheng sinks into denial.
Hear me out. Lan Wangji is the only other person than Jiang Cheng who actually visits the Burial Mounds and sees for absolute certain that the people Wei Wuxian is looking after are just innocent civilians.
But nothing comes of that visit. Nothing at all. Like I mention in a previous post that he could have told Lan Xichen and that went nowhere because Jin Guangyao lies but actuallyā¦
Itās implied Lan Wangji shouldnāt have been in Yiling. That he sneaked away to be there. He didnāt tell anyone about his visit because he likely broke a few rules and was pretending otherwise.
The thing is, Lan Wangji absolutely does deserve in part the punishment that is those 13 years of quiet misery without Wei Wuxian. Because heās in part responsible for that even happening.
There is a theme in the third flashback you have to search for. And that is that no one actually does anything except Wei Wuxian. Wei Wuxian is basically the only active person in that part of the story outside of the corrupt Jin Sect. In the face of everything, in the face of evil, people do nothing.
And by the endā¦people who do act do so too late to make a difference.
Jin Zixuan arrives too late in Qiongi Path to actually calm down the situation.
Wen Qing hands herself in alongside Wen Ning but it is too late as Jin Sect already decided to take everything from Wei Wuxian and just wanted a means to a) give justification so that Lan Sect would help with the attack on Wei Wuxian and b) hide the fact they donāt destroy Wen Ning and instead take him in to study.
Jiang Yanli comes to Nightless City to try to stop the violence but itās too late because everyone has already pledged to attack and kill Wei Wuxian and the Wen Remnants.
Lan Wangji rescues Wei Wuxian in the aftermath of Nightless City but it is too late as he has been broken beyond salvation by the events of the past few weeks.
The only hope that is seeded is that Lan Wangjiās last minute action allows Wei Wuxian to survive and recover enough so he can destroy half the Yin Tiger Seal before his death. Considering Wei Wuxian remained out of it two days after Nightless City, he would have died otherwise and Jin Guangshan would have gotten his hands on the complete Yin Tiger Seal.
Instead he needed it fixed, which lead to a series of events that ultimately led to Wei Wuxian coming backā¦
But even so, in the past Lan Wangji did nothing. And he knows that. He did absolutely nothing to help Wei Wuxian before and that, more than anything, is why he refuses to be separated from Wei Wuxian and follows his lead 100% throughout the novel.