Mi Binghe bb from hell
it's you!
I don't know bingbong, let's ask the destroyed roomba
The power dynamic between Bingqiu is so complex and unhinged.
On the one hand, Shen Qingqiu is the Shizun, and Luo Binghe the disciple. He still pretty much serves and defers to him as such. Shen Qingqiu is the master, the elder, the superior, in a way that can never change in a culture so steeped in respect for such hierarchies, and where reversal or equalization is simply not a thing. Shen Qingqiu himself still refers to himself as "this master" for most of the story (even post canon? I can't remember), and the one quality he appreciates in Luo Binghe (at least that he says aloud) is his obedience. In both their minds, he's very firmly the one who raised and trained Luo Binghe - though with very different connotations depending on who you ask.
On the other hand... well... Luo Binghe plays the obedient puppy-ish disciple, but he pretty much cute/pathetic-bullies his way into anything he wants, because Shen Qingqiu is weak to him and can't say no. So Luo Binghe plays submissive, cries a little, then gets to top Shen Qingqiu into next Sunday in the most unfillial way imaginable lol. Also, and I cannot stress this enough, he's the most powerful person in the world, he doesn't have to serve anyone in a humble cottage. He literally has an empire and is a ruler, but he plays housewife and meek disciple to this one spoiled guy who gave him the correct manual once and head-patted him with abandon.
Also let's not forget that, to Luo Binghe, Shen Jiu and Shen Yuan are pretty seamlessly the same person. This serial head-patter is also the guy who poured hot tea on him and would string him up to beat him and made him sleep in the woodshed like a particularly miserable Cinderella. To him, one day, his cruel master deemed him worthy of his love after he made him go through many trials, and then slam-dunked him into the abyss, and then self-destructed to save him and then turned out to be alive and avoiding him like the plague and then sulked because Luo Binghe did not properly ask his hand in marriage. Luo Binghe may be the most powerful man in the world and have Shen Qingqiu wrapped around his manipulative golden little finger, BUT the grip and ascendant Shen Qingqiu possesses over Luo Binghe's psyche is unparalleled.
BUT the other side of this equation is that Shen Qingqiu feels so guilty, and loves Luo Binghe so much, he can't bear to make him unhappy and folds like a wet paper towel any time there is the merest hint of tears - which is a conscious strategy on Luo Binghe's part! Shang Qinghua told him acting pathetic works, and it does, and so he milks it! Who knows how much of it is real? Not me. Not Shen Qingqiu either, who also does not care that he's being manipulated. He knows he's being manipulated! But it works anyway!
Because what are you going to do when a cute puppy makes sad eyes at you?? Not give him the bit of meat???
You're his master but he owns your heart so that's your fate, now. He's huge and could maul you but he loves you too much and prefers to act spoiled. He sits when you say sit, comes when you say come. You tell him no but he climbs into your lap anyway and you are helpless to stop him so you pet him. It's messy, full of pathos, possibly unhealthy. You're both living your best life.
That's Bingqiu.
If SVSSS was a AO3 fic it would be very difficult to tag for because, as one example, it doesn't have necrophilia but it does have a guy using a corpse as his emotional support body pillow for 5 years in a tragic display of devotion that makes everyone around him deeply uncomfortable
And there really isn't an adequate tag for that
the idea of shou going to school after mp100 is. so fucking funny to me. like Hell Yeah boy get an education. get to learning and all that. but like. imagining Shou is a school setting is hilarious to me.
the poor guy would like. on his first day pull a fire alarm. get in shit afterwards cuz his excuse was that he didn’t know what it did. but he genuinely Honest To God didn’t know what it did and it scared him so fucking bad he ran away
He Will Not talk to his classmates. he has no business with them. they have nothing beneficial to him.
but he latches onto ritsu because Obviously shou would make sure they go to the same school
his first gym class, he sends a guy to the hospital with a dodge ball. shou is banned from dodge ball
he Must be the best at every sport. Basket ball? track and field? tennis? fuck dude they could play fucking cricket in class and he Has to be the best
he thought that, when you take books out of the school library, you just get to keep them.
he never checked them out or anything. jsut walked in, saw a book with a nice cover or somethin about wrestling, took it and left. its his book now
no one noticed until all the animal books went missing
some snitch of a student mentioned that they saw shou walking out with a book on monkeys and ratted him out
they opened his locker to find like 200 books
shou is banned from the library
every school photo of him is blurry. like. he could be standing in a class photo and be the only one blurry in it
shou claims he doesnt do this but thats most likely a lie
random classrooms, some shou has never even had a reason to go into, have a picture of his face and big bolded text saying DON’T LEND THIS STUDENT ANY UTENSILS/PENS/PAPER/ETC
every class has a different reason
in one, he created throwing stars out of paper that were genuinely sharp and hucked them at people walking outside through the windows
in another, he conducted and ‘experiment’ with pen ink and dyed half the desks horrible brackish blue colours
no one ever sees him do work Ever but he always gets it done, hands it in right on time, and gets near perfect marks
the student council has put ritsu in charge of helping shou out and learning how the school works and getting him adjusted
aka ‘your boyfriend is unruly please calm him down’
it Kind Of works???? in the sense that once rules and stuff are pointed out he Is aware of what does and doesnt go in school
doesnt mean he abides by them still
when he found the art room No One could get him out of there
as soon as he started an art project he would become hyper focused on it and no one could interrupt him. taking away his paints or putting his papers and utensils somewhere was a Death Sentence
Serizawa would bring him lunches during his breaks at the office and Shou would do the ‘ugh you’re embarrassing me’ routine but it’d always be like. in the middle of a class
he becomes that like. One Student in school everyone gawks at and admires but like. a combination of the mysterious kid and the jock kid
once in the middle of class, Shou was being weirdly quiet and looking down at his lap, sitting completely still
the girl next to him asked him what he was doing and Shou just leaned back and there was a massive guinea pig asleep in his lap
when he figures out that he can like. be in and make clubs Shou goes apeshit
he makes an Animal Lovers club and technically not enough people join but ritsu Makes Sure that the student council doesnt close it down because hes never seen Shou so happy and he Wont Let Anyone Ruin That
the same guinea pig girl looked over his shoulder at his sketch pad once and just. saw millions of drawings of ritsu.
she complimented him on his art and Shou lit up
“thanks! it helps to have such a gorgeous subject”
I decided to make several rec lists this year. Since @veliseraptor asked for SVSSS recs, I’m starting with these. I’m not good with descriptions but I can guarantee that everything on this list is amazing.
Also I tried to sort it into pairings, most of which inlcude some version of Binghe and some verison of SQQ, but sometimes the lines between bingmei and bingge and even sy and sj are made blurry by fics, so please take this division with a grain of salt.
EDIT: I originally comliped this rec list in March 2021 and am now updating it in December 2021. For those fics I’ve added now I put (NEW) in the list.
Bingqiu:
High Mountain, How I Long by Minimalistless.
Huan Hua palace divergence
white amaranth, purple eggplant by tshirt.
Postcanon, domestic, dealing with trauma.
honesty is such a lonely word by chrysaliseater.
truth serum, trial (!) fic Songs of a Wayfarer by foxflowering
An absolutely stunning ballet AU. Reads like Virginia Woolf if she were into danmei.
(NEW) Deluxe System 2.0: Co-op Mode! by kitsunealyc
What if Shen Jiu’s soul never left his body, and he and Shen Yuan had to cooperate. The perfect fix-it for SJ. Qijiu as side-ship.
(NEW) Unfinished Business by kitsunealyc
Bingge gets back to his teenage self and gets a system. Shen Qingqiu is Shen Jiu but he was Shen Yuan in between and got therapy. Interesting SJ/SY character blend. (WIP)
(NEW) dew over by ataratah
After self-destructing, SY comes back as rogue cultivator Peerless Cucumber. He and LBH start a casual relationship while LBH pines for his “dead” shizun. Cue SY being jealous of himself (that gotta be one of my favorite tropes). SJ also makes appearance (with hints of qijiu).
Bingjiu:
Shadows can bleed by SenZen_Travers
my favorite fic in this fandom. LBG resurrects SJ and tries to change him to his liking.
Не в нашей власти by Ликующий Октаэдр.
After his death, Shen Jiu returns to the time when he suffered his qi deviation and tries to change his fate. Amazing strategizing. (Russian, WIP)
point of view by acernor
SJ and LBG changes places, super hot hate sex ensues
(NEW) the taste of blood, the claim of love by newamsterodam
the one where lbh makes sj his advisor. it works very well.
(NEW) Там, где нас никогда не было - Nuoba
very hot fix-it with foot fetish
(NEW) only want love (if it’s torture) – Chesra
A lovely AU where LBH engages in a demon courtship with SJ
(NEW) faithless love (the only hoax i believe in) – Chesra
SJ puts LBG under a love potion. Delicious plot twists. (WIP)
(NEW) more delicate than the golden blossoms by xiaolongbaobei
LBG changes his treatment of his prisoner. beautifully evocative language, the best description of LBH’s demonic court ever. (WIP)
(NEW) from your knees by persicae
assassination attempt as foreplay. bingjiu at their finest
(NEW) Proud Immortal Demon’s System by Queen_Buster
Bingge relives his disciple days with a mission from the System to make himself a kinder shizun. Interesting plot; a satisfying read. (WIP)
Bingyuan:
How to Handle Laundry when Traveling Inter-Dimensionally by hoarous
hot washing machine sex
Reflected in Shadow by ibex_ascendant
LBG kidnaps SQQ. Cool worldbuilding, among other things. Has Non-Consensual Hurt/Comfort as a tag, how cool is that! (WIP)
to love another (and to learn yourself) by nyoomerr
LBG kidnaps SY (who was never SQQ and only read the novel), then re-learns how to be human. sweet.
(NEW) pay no attention to the man by PandaFlower
SJ is reborn as SY (but still in xianxia setting), LBG forces him to marry him. (WIP)
(NEW) the best luo binghe by neery
LBG roleplays himself where SY roleplays SQQ. Cue hot and emotional CNC. others (NEW) voluntary victim (tie the noose) by technorat
bingliujiu the most delicious sj whump
(NEW) recovery by moonsheen
qijiu, sj is rescued by sy and co and nursed to health
(NEW) The Quest To Happiness by karrot
shen jiu/everyone. A funny, feel-good omegaverse fic
blowing my own trumpet
鬼火|ghost light
bingjiu. LBG manipulates SJ’s memory to make him think they’re married. (WIP)
a point of honor
liujiu. Liu Qingge rapes Shen Jiu during his qi deviation and tries to make amends. (WIP)
don’t let them throw me away
liujiu with side bingqiu. human stick! sj gets transported into the world of svsss, where he ends up in lqg’s charge (four finished instalments, two more to come)
I’ve got more SV fics but am too lazy to create so many links so you’ll have to look at my AO3 for that.
A quote and thoughts regarding Shen Yuan's opinions on Liu Mingyan and the "sexiness" of the Liu Mingyan versus Sha Hualing setup. He knows what he should be feeling in this situation as a "normal straight guy", but I don't think he's actually feeling it.
"Shen Qingqiu was very fond of this female lead, and it wasn't only because Liu Mingya's beauty points were the highest. It was also because she had great poise. She always understood the big picture and grasped the general situation, and her conduct was fair and honest. Even in Luo Binghe's gigantic harem, a wife with both intelligence and moral character was rare.
There was one more appeal factor. Liu Mingyan was the only female character for whom Airplane Shooting Towards the Sky didn't write detailed sex scenes. Many readers had been highly dissatisfied with this arrangement, to the point that they spammed the comments with their ranting, but this had given Liu Mingyan something no other female lead had: an image as clear as ice and pure as jade!
Can't be helped, the unobtainable ones are always the best.
[Sweatdropping shrug kaomoji that I can't type out.]
This was what made the second match worth watching. An evil demoness naturally demanded a righteous saintess as a rival. Every man dreamed of being caught between an angel and a devil. To watch them jealously vie with each other over him one moment, then risk life and limb for his sake in the next - that was the highest, most sacred, perverted fantasy of every male organism. He could drunk off the wild, untamed charm of the wicked seductress, and at the same time his heart would ache for the austere taste of the pure saintess who kept pulling him closer only to push him away!
One had to admit, "Great Master" Airplane was genuinely good at nailing what people found satisfying. Shen Qingqiu couldn't help giving Luo Binghe another glance.
Luo Binghe found it very hard to not care about that gaze. Why exactly did Shen Qingqiu keep looking at him? Was it possible that Shizun... really had an interest in him?"
Volume 1, Chapter 2, pages 111-112.
I'm not sure where to start with this! It's a lot! I'll just work backwards: it is very funny to have Shen Qingqiu repeatedly looking towards Luo Binghe, trying to see Binghe's reactions to Sha Hualing and Liu Mingyan, and Binghe's just like, "Shizun is looking at me???" I think "interest" in this case just means interest in Binghe as a disciple with potential, rather than anything else. Binghe is not paying any real attention to Sha Hualing or Liu Mingyan's attractiveness.
Oh! A rare compliment towards "Great Master" Airplane! Shen Yuan, don't strain those rarely used muscles!
I do find it amusing that Shen Yuan refers to Liu Mingyan as "moral" and "righteous" and "pure" here. The vibe I got with Liu Mingyan is that she sided with Luo Binghe to take down her brother's murderer, which I would agree is righteous and abides by a set of morals. But the first few pages of SVSSS inform us that PIDW Luo Binghe viciously destroyed the great cultivation sects, which means that PIDW wife Liu Mingyan either helped or stepped aside when a whole bunch of murder happened.
And the "my favorite wife is the one with no (or limited) sex scenes" is a classic Shen Yuan moment and one of the reasons he reads as being strongly on the asexuality spectrum to me. The way that he talks about heterosexual "male" desire gives me the same vibe. Like he's separated from it. Like he knows this is what he's "supposed" to feel and he just... doesn't... and it's possibly hard for him to recognize what sexual desire feels like (as opposed to, say, general sexual arousal that doesn't necessarily have a target) if he's never actually experienced it himself. He knows what he should be feeling if he was the "every man" reader of PIDW.
Even when he talks about Sha Hualing and Liu Mingyan's appeal, he says "wild, untamed charm" and "pulling him closer only to push him away" as the key components of the fantasy. Like, "being flirted with" and "being fought over and fought for" and "appreciating a distant beauty" are more important than "having sex". "The most appealing thing about Liu Mingyan is that she wouldn't actually go through with trying to have sex with me," says Shen Yuan.
He's like, "Oh, I can recognize that Liu Mingyan and Sha Hualing are physically attractive, that probably means I'm an Ordinary Straight Man." Even though the way that he talked about Liu Qingge's looks in the Ling Xi Caves was... not very heterosexual... and here, he mostly seems excited just to see one of his favorite characters.
Admittedly, Sha Hualing appears 15-16 here and I think Liu Mingyan is around the same age (she doesn't have her spiritual sword yet), so Shen Yuan is probably also not attracted to them just because they're teenagers. (I do not interpret him as sexually or romantically interested in Binghe at all at this point in time.) I headcanon Shen Yuan being 20-ish at this point in time, so he's probably not that much older than SHL or LMY, but they're probably around his younger sister's age (Shen Yuan's younger sister was old enough to be reading non-con, gay, BDSM erotica.) Sha Hualing shows up half-naked and Shen Yuan is just like, "Where are your shoes? Did you walk here like this? Wasn't that painful?"
In my opinion, Shen Yuan seems a little... relieved... to think that no one could be sexually or romantically interested in the scum villain. He does lament that it's hard to get a girlfriend like this, sure. He does think that he's going to die and that he'd eventually lose any woman to Binghe, so there's no point in trying. But he really, really does not try. "Oh, I can't pursue anyone because they'd never be interested in me! How frustrating! ...Anyway! Moving on to enjoy the many other little pleasures of life! Like food and monsters!" I think the closest he comes to flirting with anyone is when speaking to Liu Qingge in the Ling Xi Caves, while Liu Qingge is coughing up blood, and that did not seem intentional.
I think if he had transmigrated into any other character, who wasn't an "unappealing" villain, Shen Yuan still wouldn't pursue women. I think he'd be like, "Well, I want a beautiful woman, because I have standards! But all beautiful women belong to the protagonist, and no one is better than Binghe, there's no way I'd win that competition, so there's no point in trying!" At which point, it's just like, "Shen Yuan, anyone becomes beautiful when you love or like them; I don't think you actually want to fuck women."
I think if Shen Yuan had transmigrated in as Luo Binghe, he still wouldn't try to pursue women. He'd be like, "I'm just raising my standards for the harem! Some of those wives were not very intelligent or in possession of good moral character! Nearly three-digits is disrespectful to the better wives! I'm only interested in especially beautiful and skilled women, like Liu Mingyan, who's perfect! (And also won't try to have sex with me.)"
Like, I am not against a bisexual Shen Yuan. I am willing to be persuaded to go along with many different interpretations! But he does read to me generally as a gay asexual / demisexual who hasn't yet realized that a desire to be fawned over and an ability to recognize beauty is not necessarily the same thing as sexual attraction. (I do think he is attracted to Binghe after Binghe gets back from the Endless Abyss, but his feelings there are tied up in his very real, reasonable fear of murder and mutilation.)
comission for @pengiesama! YEAH FENGXIN IS BEING A HYPOCRITE!!
original meme base:
The secret to a good Luo Binghe characterization is that he's always the smartest most fuckable person in every room. His IQ is as high as his dick is long and his issues are as vast as Mobei Jun's bossom. He'd grab his husband's hand and say with starry eyes: "I never needed a father, I had you" and mean it.
june 2020
a force that can’t be heard / coming in louder than words
closeups under the cut
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