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People hating on irondad in 2025... WE ARE SO BACK lol

Twitter bros and sisters who say Tony manipulated Peter into the fight in CW are completely misreading the situation and ignoring the context of their relationship

First of all, Tony did not create Spiderman. When Tony met Peter, Peter was ALREADY out there fighting crime on his own, risking his life with a homemade suit THAT HE CREATED HIMSELF. He didn’t need manipulation to be a hero, he already was one. Tony didnt ruin Peters life at all, Peter was gonna be a hero whether Tony liked it or not, he was stopping carjackers, robbers and helping civilians long before Tony ever approached him. SHIELD or another hero would have eventually discovered Peters abilities and probably treated him worse. Imagine if Fury found Peter first, he would've treated him like a disposable soldier at least Tony gave Peter protection, mentorship and guidance... just because its not the hero you like doesnt mean that wouldnt be the case

them: 'tony was so manipulative! poor kid! making him fight in CW!'

also them: 'Omg spiderman should've been on Cap's side!!''

So are you angry that Peter was there fighting in Berlin or mad because he was on Tony's side? lol

The only reason Tony found him was because Peter was already putting himself in danger. Let's not pretend Tony didnt say 'you need an upgrade, THIS IS WHY I'M HERE FOR' he knew everything about this kid and wanted to help him.

If anything Tony was more protective than manipulative. He brought Peter in but also made sure he stayed on the sidelines during the fight. Peter wasnt tasked with taking down any of the bigger threats, his main job was to contain people. Tony told him to stay back and web people up. Tony thought of team cap as FAMILY back then and those are AVENGERS people who are supposed to protect the earth, he didnt bring Peter to fight in a HYDRA facility. Peter was fully aware that he was fighting THE AVENGERS

Look at what Cap did:

(not my edit)

And look at what he did to Sharon Carter lol PEGGY'S niece

Tony set more boundaries for Peter than any other adult:

Steve dropped a multi-ton jetway onto Peter in CW and then left him there, he didn't need to do that and if you think Steve would've stopped for Peter instead of Bucky, you're severely mistaken. Again, look at what he did to Sharon.

Talos under Furys instructions had SHIELD send a 16 year old to fight gigantic elementals, threats they themselves couldnt handle, rather than calling more experienced heroes. He manipulated Peter into fighting and got mad when the kid CRIED when told he wasnt living up to expectations of people more experienced than him.

Strange teleported Peter onto the battlefield in Endgame forcing him into the fight against Thanos, an experience that was even more traumatic.

May pressured Peter into helping the multiversal villains in NWH, even after he told her it wasnt his responsibility and was beyond his control. Peter BLAMES himself for her death.

Tony is literally the only one who actively tried to limit Peters involvement in dangerous situation, he:

Saved the kid in IW after he got himself involved, sent Peter back and wanted him out of the fight.

After the fight in CW when Peter gets hurt Tony immediately pulls him out and tells him to go home. A truly manipulative person would have disregarded Peters safety but Tony cared.

Stopped him every time he saw things were too much for the kid.

Respected Peters wishes to stay a 'friendly neighborhood spiderman' and let him go.

They're out there fighting tooth and nail the same old ''peter was too young to think for himself and would have sided with Cap' that argument ignores Peters personality, values and agency. The funny part? The same people who complain that MCU Peter lacks agency are the ones stripping it away from him every chance they get. They just don't want to admit peter's own morals align with tony's side, even before Tony entered his life Peter was already operating under his own moral code: 'When you can do the things that I can but you don’t and then the bad things happen... they happen because of you.' That belief system aligns with Tonys stance in CW, heroes need accountability because their actions affect people

If Peter truly believed in Steves cause he wouldnt have joined Tony. Hes said NO to other heroes like Doctor Strange, he basically told Strange NO in all of NWH lol He said NO to Tony in Homecoming when Tony tried to ground him warning him about the Vulture, even after taking the suit. He said NO to joining the Avengers, said NO to Tony in IW. Stop acting like Peter cant say no, this kid defies authority all the time. He said it himself, he was tired of Tony treating him like a kid all the time.

Do you think peter would do what Cap did in CW? Did he do that in NWH? NO. Peter would never have put his personal attachments above doing the right thing. Hes not someone who blindly prioritizes personal loyalty over accountability

Peter with 15 years of living gave up the opportunity to dance with Liz Allan to do the right thing and stop the bad guy, Peter with 17 years of living gave up his entire life and future just to do the right thing in NWH. Meanwhile Steve with centuries of life experience chose to stay in the past and live out his days with Peggy instead of staying in the present to help Bucky heal, support Sam becoming Captain America and continue aiding people after big ass events like the Snap and the Blip. They're not the same.

CONCLUSION!!

Peter is a young hero in a world of adults. This constant theme of adults asking too much of Peter and not recognizing his limitations contributes heavily to the emotional trauma that Peter experiences across the MCU and Tony is actually one of the only people in Peters life who consistently tries to protect his agency and set boundaries for him. The thing that all of these situations have in common is that Peters agency is often stripped away and it paints a picture of a young hero who was constantly thrown into battles without enough consideration for his growth and mental well being and thats a key reason why Peters character arc is so compelling, he is learning not just to be a hero but to navigate the emotional fallout from all the pressure put on him. LEARN how to love other adaptations instead of crying about your fuck ass comic driven desires for the character, THIS IS MCU PETER

You people just follow whatever the most liked tweet says, try thinking for yourself for once