In the wake of the Curious Tea Party PokeMas event being announced and including Submas, I thought I’d compile some things that might hint at why he was chosen to be included in PLA and what sort of went wrong with that. I’d been thinking about creating this kind of post for a while now and was doing some research (I do not like to go off pure speculation with these posts), but the event being announced last night gave me a few more ideas to work with.
Also I’m not interested in debating, headcanons, etc. You’re free to disagree with my opinions but I don’t want to argue over things. My primary goal here is to provide reassurance to people who are upset over being left hanging by the way PLA currently is. Please respect this. bl*nkshippers dni–I will block you
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the continuation of what happened in this post
This is what I think, backed up by in-game evidence.
Also, let me preface this by saying that this is for those of us who want reassurance. I ask that you do not reblog this and add your theories that he won’t go home, and absolutely do not DM me your theories or headcanons as to why he won’t. I’m not interested in them, especially not from people I don’t know, and I will block you if you do this. I’m serious about this because my friend and roommate, 1863-project, made a post seeking reassurance and asking for spoilers confirming he went home, if they existed, when it leaked a few weeks ago that Ingo would be in Legends: Arceus the way he is. Instead she had strangers DMing her their theories without asking, which was rude and the exact opposite of what she’d asked for. Submas has helped both of us in different ways; neither of us wants to see Ingo trapped in Hisui. Spoilers start here.
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What’s it for? yeah.
Ingo Confirmed Canon Information - Bad at facial expressions but good as vocal expressions (his face looks very neutral even when he sounds excited) - Speaks very loudly, has no indoor voice - While this is more obvious in the Japanese games, Ingo speaks in a overly polite/formal way - Yells “BRAVO” when anything smth he finds exciting happens - Left handed Manga Depiction - Appears to be easily frustrated when losing battles - Emmet’s impulse control through brute force, will simply grab and remove Emmet when he’s being too abrasive - Repeats the name of the trains destinations in the speaker after Emmet does the first announcement. Maybe this is just a thing trains do but it’s important to me. - More expressive than in the games (not by a large margin) Pokemon Masters - Seems to have an overbearing sense of responsibility(?) - Hisui is not the first time he’s been transported into a different universe for unexplained reasons. - Does not seem to be aware that his face doesn’t show the emotions he’s feeling. - Most of his conversations are about trains and rail systems. Emmet Confirmed Canon Information - His face is always very expressive but he speaks in a monotone way ( he will look very excited and yet talk in a very neutral way) - While this is more obvious in the Japanese games, Emmet speaks in a more informal way than his brother - Gets very serious while battling - Right handed - Starts the majority of his sentences with “I am Emmet” - Says “very” as “verrrry” - Likes winning more than anything else - Prefers double battles
Manga - Will loudly announce he is going to eavesdrop on your conversation as he walks towards you - This depiction of Emmet appears to generally be louder and more energetic - Does this weird stiff walk a lot - Mainly does the location announcements on the train speakers. Idk how you call them.
Pokemon Masters - Really looks up to Ingo - Prefers the rules of a double battle - Puts a great deal of importance on safety - Seems to have a thing with combinations; he states multiple times that he loves combinations when it comes to pokemon battles and takes great interest in the sync pairs system. - Mentions Ingo a lot - Considers him and Ingo as “each other’s closest rivals”
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WAIT DID I NEVER POST THE EMMET FANCAMS HERE ?? WHAT THE FUCK ???
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(Childhood) submas headcanons:
- They probably got bullied
- Their bullies show up to the battle subway one day and Emmet has a fieldtrip insulting them after they lose. For once Ingo doesn't stop him.
- Emmet has more trouble waking up in the morning for school/work
- Ingo would make Emmet's sandwiches for him if he got up too late for school
- They shared a room as kids but each side was decorated differently
- Plushies of their favorite pokemon
- Practicing their poses in the mirror ofcourse
- Ingo is better at school subjects like history while Emmet is better at stuff like math. Idk it makes sense to me
- matching bracelets when they were kids
- Ingo would study beforehand while Emmet would do it last minute
- Ingo would probably help Emmet study if he was short on time
- Fake Pokémon battles on the playground
- Emmet is one cm taller than Ingo
- Or Ingo is taller idk i can't decide but i feel like they're not the same height
- they share an unmreblla
- if they couldn't reach something as kids Emmet would sit on Ingo's shoulders
- they speak multiple languages!!
Hello there! I just want to clarify something for anyone curious about Dreamers. While we both undoubtedly appreciate the support and interest of people from this platform, please understand that the project Mye and I are undertaking is a closed one, just like with any original graphic novel/book/webcomic. It is a very expansive piece of work, and it is one that is solely ours to make. This is not tied to our fan works in any way, shape or form—it is our original story, and our original characters, written and illustrated by us.
Having said that: while it’s flattering to be asked about if people can produce AUs based on this universe, the answer right now is a firm no. For now, the same goes for fan-made OCs. One of the main reasons behind this choice is a simple one: no one’s had a chance to read the story yet! No one but us two really knows how the story proceeds, or what it really entails. Given this, we ask that people not claim ownership of any aspect of our project, especially not before it has even been released. I can say that the original story has not been cast aside, as it went on to become the foundation of Dreamers, as a first draft. Mye and I took great care to write it to its conclusion during our spare time, and hope to share it as a piece of our developmental process in making the final product. In addition to the main story, we also have lots AUs for these characters—we even draw art for them, sometimes!—and we’re more than happy to talk about them once the main bulk of Dreamers is underway.
To summarize: please don’t take our story or characters for personal means. Dreamers is an original work, written from the ground up by both of us. While Mye allows a lot of freedom for how people handle Ink (which is a beautiful, wonderful thing!) the same will not be allowed for our OCs. Coming from a modest publishing background, I personally am made very uncomfortable by the thought that my work can be reshaped by the hands of someone who doesn’t know who the characters are, or what they will become. However—this doesn’t mean we don’t appreciate the support, fanart, and interest we’ve garnered so far! It really brightens our day to know that people want to learn more, and we hope that they’ll follow along with our project into future development. Dreamers is a several-years-long creation, built through struggle, friendship, and a long-enduring love for the crafts of art and writing. We look forward to seeing how you will all react to final product, and want you all to know that your encouragement keeps us focused on our goals. I can’t wait to share this beautiful world with all of you—I hope you’re all looking forward to the day we unveil it to you!
Going to nip this one in the bud before I see any of you do it: there is an active shooting investigation in Brooklyn right now in a subway station. This is NOT the time for you to do Submas stuff with this, this is a real emergency and at least 13 people are injured. It's not a joke, it's not a time for fandom stuff, etc. Don't be that person.
no hate but I'll admit I'm getting a lil tired/sad over all the 'ingo chooses hisui because he's built a home/he's not the person he was (blank) years ago'
just kinda an achy sad. cuz idk. I'm almost 30 myself and. maybe it's just me but living in a place for 5 years, having what could be called a life.... doesn't make it home. I've lived where I am since 2013 and I still wouldn't call it my home. yes, I have friends and a job, but my heart's not here. I miss my home state so much, the place I grew up in, the trees, the dumb lil stores... Yeah I'm sure it's changed, but if I could go back, I would.
as for age, I feel like as we get older, we change far less over time. you figure yourself out, develop your patterns. and Ingo clearly remembers his patterns unconsciously. while he will change from his time in hisui, I don't think it's as much as we assume
plus, man, when you get older time fucking SPEEDS UP. not even joking. five years is NOTHING, it will pass in the blink of an eye. I'm pretty sure my mom passed away like 4-5 years ago but it only feels like 2 years in the grand scheme
I just wish we had a lil more happy to offset the sad,