THIS. THIS IS WHY V IS COOL AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HIM
Still think that was one of the best ways to develop Vergil's character, nice move CAPCOM 😉
Guys i Know you loved V… I loved him too.
But you guys are not understanding what he is. He is not a wasted character… He is Vergil! It’s a side of Vergil that we could never have meet if he haven’t pushed to be separeted with the Yamato.
A side that himself forget. That is why V was mysterious and calm, because this parte of Vergil that was ignored by him, that he never payed to much attention because his life was rough and he did not had reason for it. Putting Everything that V was as something he just wated to get hid of, wich he actually did.
When V and “Urizen” are back together Vergil absorves all the feelings he had suppressed to the point of almost oblivion. Through the eyes of V he sees Dante it still that crazy guy and Nero as a decent person.
That is why he wants to fight Dante fairy, because his proud makes him desire a good fight with his rival/brother. A proud he losted when he created V. And that is why he thanks Nero, because the boy helped him found himself.
Nero helped V… Nero helped Vergil.
During the fight with Dante he says that Nero means nothing to him, but as soon as the battle stops the way his voice sounds unsure when he asks… “Nero’s my son?” Well he looks like he can’t belive unil once again he remembers the past/emotions that he had forgot?supressed even before creating V. Vergil actually stops for a while, and smile… Probabilly it was a happy memory.
The fight with Nero was to see if his son was like him, making the same mistakes, having the same doubts. Vergil lost because at that moment Nero’s motivation was the stronger one and at the same time he was trying to know his son.
For a Warrior like him the best way to know someone was through fight.
In the end Vergil already wannet to cut the stupid tree, and go straigh to the point to work with Dante like if was meant to be. Like it was a every day thing, he protected Nero from following him both punched the boy at the same time without talking, or looking at each other. They just had the conection back at full speed.
This is showed at the moment that he and Dante are being real brothers killing demons. And challenging each other without the intention of killing, only fight because Dante and Vergil like that… And they are seriously good at that. Maybe that’s what Dante always wannet him to see.
The poetry books that he leaves to Nero is like a promise that he will try to go back. Because Nero actually holds the books and he knows that will be a next time for him to see his father.
He is a brother, a father, he is a fucking Warrior.
i do have to hand it to him
Oh, look, what's that?
That is #quality stuff
i’m fucking obsessed with this right now, so buckle in for a meta. a cool fun (horrible) thing about dean’s dialogue is that a good 90% of what comes out of his mouth is:
a pop culture reference (“you’re just gonna take some divine bong hit, and shazam, you’re roma downey?”)
references to real life phenomenon (“i don’t wanna wake up missing a kidney in a bathtub full of ice” “try new mexico, i hear he’s on a tortilla”)
these also often take the form of nicknames, and dean has a tendency to give people nicknames in general or call them something besides their given name, whether it’s affectionate or rude (“easy there, van damme” “so i’m girl interrupted” furthermore castiel = cas, ezekiel = zeke, etc, see also frequent use of “chucklehead” “asshat” and on the nicer/endearments end “buddy” “pal” “sunshine” etc)
an idiom (“a snowball’s chance” “if it smells like a duck…”)
slang (“drinking the koolaid” “jonesing for some hooch” not to mention the literal endless amount of words dean uses to refer to killing - gank, waste, juice, ice, etc)
a metaphor (“power up your batteries” “fly me back to my page on the calendar”)
a euphemism (“cloud seeding” “i’d have given you an hour alone with her first”)
sarcasm (his habit of replying “peachy” or “super” when asked how he is)
wordplay (see: the entire “vampirate” and “werepire” debacles)
completely nonsensical (guessing what happened to a magical artifact: “it was dug up by tomb raiders? it was seized by the king of the dead by warlords?”)
said at lightning speed - if you pay attention, dean actually talks a LOT, usually a mile a minute (this makes me feel a way when you recall his year of mutism at age 4 but that’s another post)
slang IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE (casual usage of “guano,” etc)
a lie, a deflection, a joke, etc
or worse, something dean’s NOT saying, deliberately, because he’s one of the most repressed people on earth
the end result of all this being:
think about this. there’s an ENTIRE SECTION on EVERY SINGLE EPISODE PAGE of the spn wiki devoted to JUST explaining dean’s pop culture references, because the average viewer won’t have seen everything he’s talking about either. they have a whole page for this called “hunter’s lingo,” but honestly, it’s not all hunters, just sam and dean’s fucking batshit communication style. even i don’t understand dean half the time. SAM gets it, sam speaks it back to dean a lot in the early seasons, but that’s because sam and dean are 1. practically two halves of the same person 2. FREAKS. every time we get an episode that involves outsider POV is devoted to them going “what the fuck is WRONG with them?”
enter castiel. technically speaking, the show implies that angels are omnilingual. castiel should understand every language known to man, but knowing the meaning of words doesn’t help him understand the following:
pop culture references
references to real life phenomenon
nicknames
idioms
slang
metaphors
euphemisms
sarcasm
wordplay
you get the idea.
listen to me. look me in the eyes. castiel cannot understand a single fucking word that comes out of dean’s mouth. my guy laid a hand on dean winchester in hell and immediately fell in love with him and has no fucking idea what he’s talking about ever. because not only is dean winchester’s way of speaking CLINICALLY insane, and sometimes incomprehensible even to other human beings who are not sam, castiel is an angel, and someone prone to taking things even more literally than other angels do
go back and watch and watch seasons 4-5 especially. the reason cas does so much squinting and head tilting is because every time dean opens his mouth castiel has to open up his mental “dean winchester dictionary” and translate entire paragraphs on the fly, because again, dean never shuts up!
what makes this extra hilarious to me is this gem:
this line is from 5.13. at this point cas has known dean for AN ENTIRE YEAR AND A HALF. what you see here is my guy SNAPPING. cas made an EFFORT in this scene. he asked who glenn close was. he’s telling dean that he can’t understand him. he is doing his level best to have a normal conversation with this guy he has a crush on and for the life of him he cannot do it (equal but opposite energy to cas blowing up the gas station and motel room in 4.01, tbh)
yes, cas can understand dean’s tone. he can use context clues, and he usually gets the general idea. and when cas DOES understand dean’s jokes, he laughs at them. the first time we ever see him smile is during their 4.07 heart-to-heart when dean says “it was a witch, not the tet offensive.” since cas has knowledge of human history, he knows what the tet offensive is; he got the joke, and he laughed.
but as far as actual dialogue goes, he consistently struggles to keep up. even after metatron gives castiel the pop culture knowledge in season 9, cas struggles to put it to put it to proper use (dean: “you wanna just walk right into the death star?” cas: “what does a fictional battle station have to do with this?”). whenever he asks dean to clarify it’s always when he’s most annoyed, like most of the time he knows it would be futile but he’s too annoyed to care. (dean: “i don’t know who’s on first, what’s on second!” cas: “what IS second???”) i’m pretty sure he spends seasons 4-6 wanting to shake dean by the shoulders and ask him why he is LIKE THIS.
it takes cas - who, again, is omnilingual - YEARS to begin to acclimate to dean’s speech and start speaking that language back to him. it’s season 8 before we start really hearing him use slang, season 9 before he begins to understand wordplay, season 10 before he starts using pop culture references (to other angels, who immediately fail to understand him, which disappoints him immensely), and season 11 before he really gets into metaphors. i don’t remember what season he started using “yeah” instead of “yes” but i do know it took a really damn long time.
and honestly, i don’t think cas truly got the hang of it until at least season 11-12. that’s something like 7 or 8 YEARS. it’s more than half the time they’ve known each other at the point of the series finale.
so what’s true romance, fellas? it’s falling completely and totally in love with the most inexplicable person you will ever meet in your whole 4.5 billion year life, even though you have yet to understand a single thing he’s ever said to you. thank you for coming to my ted talk
Бабочки Боярышницы на медоносе Синяк. Butterflies Hawthorn on the honey plant Sinyak.
Not European, but WTH, I'll do everything in my power to stop this nonsense
Exactly. The funny thing is if Misha is indeed constantly the butt of the joke he may he seen as an easy pray for others.
I'm not a fan, I rarely even watch panels or anything, but I'm a psychology student.
And it always bothered me how Misha is subdued by almost anyone else he is doing panel with despite being emotional and open person. From what I saw he is most comfortable with Alex out of all of them.
And all those stories about pranks and jokes, and how at the beginning Jensen and Jared were cold towards him despite pranking him even then. It may have lead to genuine friendships between the three of them, yeah, but it may have some side effects. Like Midha being seen as less by some people.
And the way he is being treated in this video? It is PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE, you hear me?! That is exactly what abuse looks like! Oh, it is really casual for everyone there, yeah, but it is exactly the point! What makes it worse is that the abuser(s?) are in position of literal power. That is how gaslighting works, for god's sake.
This ladies and gentlemen, and everyone else, are the people who wrote off Dean and Castiel in the most disrepectful way. You wonder why? Roll the video. You see nothing wrong with these clips? Oh… i feel sorry for you. If you honestly think these people love and respect both Jensen but especially Misha you are in the wrong. I am sorry but “jokes” and “funny” has its barriers. And the way Misha was treated all these years, the example above being only one from many, is just utterly disrespectful. For someone who works as hard as Jensen and Jared you are telling me this is the attitude he deserves? Saying he is “not as high quality” as the ‘duo’ of the show? I’m sorry but i cannot and will not have any respect for these kind of people.
Jensen Ackles and Misha Collins didn’t deserve this kind of attitude.
OR potentially violent deviants. Because humanity is a social species and we have a strong sense of normal/natural. So if behavior is not normal then its unpredictable thus dangerous.
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