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TOG characters as random The Office quotes

Aelin

Rowan

Dorian

Manon

Chaol

Yrene

Gavriel

Lorcan

Fenrys

Maeve

Lidia's story about a witch

Once upon a time, before Luna hunted the heavens and Solas warmed Cthona’s body, before Ogenas blanketed Midgard with water and Urd twined our fates together, there lived a young witch in a cottage deep in the woods. She was beautiful, and kind, and beloved by her mother. Her mother had done her best to raise her, with her only companions being the denizens of the forest itself: birds and beasts and the babbling brooks.

She grew older, strong and proud. But a wandering prince passed by her clearing one day when her mother was gone, beheld her beauty, and wanted her desperately to be his bride.

She had no interest in princes, or in ruling a kingdom, or in any of the jewels he offered. What she wanted was a true heart to love her, to run wild with her through the forest. But the prince would not be denied. He chased her through the wood, his hounds following.

As she ran, she pleaded with the forest she loved so dearly to help her. So it did. First, it transformed her into a deer, so she might be as swift as the wind. But his hounds outraced her, closing in swiftly. Then the forest turned her into a fish, and she fled down one of the mountain streams. But he built a weir at its base to trap her. So she became a bird, a hawk, and soared for the skies. But the prince was a skilled archer, and he fired one of his iron-tipped arrows.

It struck her breast, and where her blood fell, olive trees sprouted. As her body hit the earth, the forest transformed her one last time…

The forest turned the witch into a monster before she hit the earth. A beast of claws and fangs and bloodlust. She ripped the prince and hounds who pursued her into shreds.

She remained a monster for a hundred years, roaming the forest, killing all who drew near. A hundred years, so long that she forgot she had once been a witch, had once possessed a home and a forest she loved.

But one day, a warrior arrived in the forest. He’d heard of the monster so vicious none could kill it and live. She set out to slaughter him, but when the warrior beheld her, he was not afraid. He stared at her, and she at him, and he wept because he didn’t see a thing of nightmares, but a creature of beauty. He saw her, and he was not afraid of her, and he loved her. His love transformed her back into a witch, melting away all that she’d become. They dwelled in peace in the forest for the rest of their immortal lives.

-Lidia Cervos

HOSAB SPOILER

I hate the asteri for many reasons but the fact that they ruined the perfect and hilarious scene in which ithan held aidas in his lap and petted him is by far the biggest

I DONT ECEB KNOW WHAT TO SAY

SARAHHHH

WHAT A FUCKING CLIFFHANGER I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS:

IF RHYS LOOKS LIKE RUHN DOES BRYCE LOOK LIKE RHYS LITTLE SISTER????

IS AMREN LIKE FURY?????

IS THE LAND THE SHIFTERS CAME FROM THE TOG WORLD AND DOES THAT MEAN THE ASTARI ARE VALG?????

Rough sjm interview recap:

Cc3 is confirmed next, likely will be 18 months to 2 years since there's so much to tie together

She thinks this will be her longest book ever

Ruhn, Baxion, and Hunt are going to be going through some pretty horrific things in the dungeon--she said she's not sure if her editor will say what she has now is "too much" 😬

The 8 pointed star and Aelin's travel through Prythian will get fully explained (in terms of there being multiple worlds, it didn't seem like Aelin would make an appearance)

Lots of things with Bryce transitioning from a modern world to Prythian!! (specifically toilet paper lol)

Hunts lineage will get explained

She was well into the creative process for cc before thinking about the crossover

Nyx features in the book! And everyone is very protective of him!

As of now, cc3 takes place roughly 6 months after acosf

There will be setup for future acotar and cc books in cc3

HOSAB & ACOSF: Fae Legends

Dusk Court:

- Confirmation the legendary 8th court did exist and that it's likely the prison island. The pegasus originally hailed from this island. Therefore Bryce’s fan-girl fascination with Pegasus toys is a homage to the land of her ancestors.

Legends of the Fae:

- Theia was the Dusk Court’s Ruler. She became High Queen of the Fae when she wed the last High King, Fionn.

- At some point, Theia and Pelias (who was the High King's general) decided to betray (...or leave) Fionn.

- They stole Fionn's cache of weapons (the starborn sword, truth-teller, the horn, the harp, etc.). THen Theia, Pelias, and Theia's 2 daughters ran off to another world - using the horn and the harp to open the gatway. This world was CC. Theia and gang quickly figured out who the Asteri were - their old masters: The Daglan.

- Theia decides to join forces with the armies of Hel to destroy the Asteri. This is likely how Theia and Adias meet... and then fall in love.

- Pelais (who likely didn't like being replaced or demoted) decided to align with the Asteri. He killed Theia on the battlefield and then crowned himself prince by forcing the eldest Starborn daughter Helena to marry him.

- Jesibia's comment to Adias about “don't fuck us over this time” likely means that after Theia died, Adias and his brothers decided to take their armies back to Hel and leave Pelais and the Fae (as well as the rest of the people of CC) to fend for themselves against the Asteri. Obviously, that didn't end well. The people of CC are still fighting some version of this battle to this day.

- Helena was forced to marry Pelias against her will. Helena and her younger sister likely came-up with the plot to save the Fae from Asteri domination in both words.

- I think the "plan" was that Helena would remain in CC partly as a decoy, but also to use the horn to help close the gates into CC. Meanwhile, her younger sister sneaks off (into the night)....using the harp she travels back to their ACOTAR homeworld. Helena kept the Starsword and The Horn, but her sister got the dagger (truthteller) The Harp....and both travel back with her to the Dusk Court.

- The images Nesta saw when touching the Harp, are of the Fae in CC. They are trying to get back thru the gate into their ACOTAR homeworld – but there wasn’t enough time for everyone to make it through. Likely the Asteri were closing in. Thus the sisters used the horn and/or harp to close the access point. Some of the Fae were in fact trapped in the walls when this happened. Perhaps, this is the magical act that caused the island to die.

- Helena’s sister went on to close all the access points in the ACOTAR world. In Prythian the access points are likely the three mountains - The Middle, The Prison, and Ramiel. There may be others on the continent - maybe Koschei's lake? With the access points closed, Helena's sister had no way to return to CC. She lived in Prythian for the rest of her life.

- Given the resemblance that Ruhn and Rhys share....Theia's younger daughter likely became (through marriage) apart of the Night Court - and is Rhy's ancestor.

- Ruhn is a descendant of Helena. Rhys is a descendant of her younger sister. This is why they look alike.

- Theia's family name is Starborn. Helena’s last name was also Starborn – this is why in CC they’re known as "Starborn Fae".

- Rhy’s family name is Starborn!!! (It was passed on from the un-named sister.)

Lidia Cervos deserves the world and I will not elaborate

Actually, yes I will

(Huge spoilers ahead. Don’t read until you’ve finished HOSAB. Also, there are spoilers in the tags)

When Lidia was still Day and I read this, two things happened. First, the thought that Day = Lidia crossed my mind because of her thing with Pollux. And two, assuming that she was indeed Lidia, my heart fucking shattered because it meant that the poor woman had been putting up with a disgusting asswhole for the sake of learning information and passing it along for the greater good. And I was right.

This is just so fucking sad. Lidia had to picture Ruhn every time she slept with Pollux because she had no other way to endure it. Yes, their sex was consensual, but to a higher more spiritual level it didn’t feel like it. My heart completely broke for her at this and I’m so happy she’s got someone as caring as Ruhn in her life now. This whole scene was so bittersweet and Ruhn was the most attentive lover.

What Ruhn says here basically confirms what I thought—Lidia put herself through all of that for the bigger cause. I’m convinced that story she told Ruhn about the witch turned monster was in fact about herself. As Day, she kept telling him how she felt authentic with him and how he reminded her that there was good in the world. This is how that story ended:

And lastly, I’m 100% sure we’ll get a scene in the next book with either Lidia or Ruhn (or both) beating the shit out of Pollux like he deserves. That’d be super hot ngl.

I wanted to put this out there because I’m sure we’ll eventually get the usual “but Lidia is evil!1!” comments and I just needed to remind you that Lidia is a victim. Just like Hunt did questionable things when he answered to others, so did Lidia. Y’all aren’t about to vilify women for the same stuff men do, and when they do it they’re just “misunderstood” and they’re considered “hot morally-grey characters”. Not on my watch.

Plus in Sarah’s most recent live, she talked about how she loves writing those morally-grey characters. She says there are good people, like Hunt, who are forced to do terrible things and live with the consequences, but they’re not villains.

I’m confident this is the case with Lidia, so protect her at all costs 🗣🗣🗣

House of Sky and Breath

First read freak out

*heavy spoilers*

Ruhn&Lidia obvious mate stuff right there

Day/Lidia stuff? Called it from the moment she stepped foot inside that bar and he described her as the most beautiful woman blablabla

Ruhn's form was Rhys-like

"Day's" was Aelin-like

Not in a weird way tho, didn't feel like Rhys and Aelin, just the presentation of powers had similarities

Viper Queen might be Valg, or something close to it

Tharion is now blood sworn to that creature, that'll come back to bite his ass

Urd sounds very close to Wyrd

Cthona & Mother & Three Faced Godess???

Luna and Nesta?? The fae queens in TOG???

I need answers, my mind is going everywhere

I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD AMREN

The way she presented her "true form" in acowar resembles firstlights descriptions

Hunt as a slave again and possibly/probably Ruhn and Baxiam too is a fucking crime

Can't wait to see his full powers unleashed, there's been a lot of buildup

THE FACT THAT THE ASTERI DUMBASS SAID THAT THE STAR ON BRYCE'S CHEST IS A BEACON AND IT TOOK HER RIGHT TO VELARIS MY FUCKING GOD

Rhys looking like Ruhn holy fucking shit that's all the conformation i fucking NEEDED cause I've been picturing them alike

FURY LOOKS LIKE AMREN WHAT THE FUCK i don't know which of them that explains better but it makes perfect sense

I look forward to finding out EXACTLY how Amren relates to the Asteri because holy fucking shit HER DESCRIPTIONS OF HER LIFE BEFORE AND THE WAY THE ASTERI GO AROUND AND THE VALG KINGS holy shit are they the masters/king idfk she mentioned?! Are the Asteri Valg? HOLY HEL

I'm freaking out; i screamed the moment Az showed up and haven't calmed dow yet

TRUTH TELLER AND STARSWORD AAAAAAH I THOUGHT I WAS FUCKING CRAZY WHEN I SAW THE COLOR SIMILARITY I THOUGHT THE OTHER KNIFE WOULD BE SOMEWHERE ELSE holy fucking shit the fucking Horn MY GOD THE STARSWORD IS LITERALLY GWYDION FUUUUUUUCK

Bryce and Nesta teaming up oh gods the stars they both bear

AZ TAKING BRYCE TO THE TOWN FUCKING HOUSE SMELLING LIKE FLOWERS AND BREAD?!?!?!?! HELLO??????!!!!doesn't confirm stuff but still

I need to sleep

It makes perfect sense to set cross world enemies as an excuse to make the characters themselves cross said worlds

Are Erawan's siblings coming to play? Is this what's going to bring TOG into it? Being a world that successfully banished/killed Valg?

I get it now why she hasn't said much about the next acotar book

I swear to god, this wait will be the death of me

Now I'm wondering where the hell Sarah's going to continue this on; is the next acotar going to continue this arc? Are we waiting for the next cc? A Tower of Down type book? IS AELIN COMING TO THE FUCKING PARTY?

Edit: ok sjm said cc3 is coming before acotar5 and i dont know what to think, i need them both and can't function this is going to be a long ass wait

This is referring to ERILEA. I'm losing my mind.

House of Sky And Breath Theories (contain Spoilers)

sooo i just finished hosab and let me say it was so fucking amazingggg! while reading i got a few new theories about the worlds of crescent city, acotar and throne of glass

DO NOT - AND I MEAN IT - DO NOT READ IT IF YOU DON´T WANT TO SEE/READ ABOUT THE SPOILERS!!!!

Amren is the 7th lost Asteri sister - They say that the Prince of the Pit swallowed the 7th Asteri, Sirius, whole, but what if he didn't? Perhaps she didn't like what the Asteri stood for, and the swallowing was a method of dragging her into Prythian - "No one has spoken that language in this world for fifteen thousand years" is quoted by Amren when Bryce first speaks to her in HOSAB...interesting that the 7th Asteri sister was swallowed by the prince of pit 15,000 years ago - to me the timelines match up - I know Amren doesn't feed on first light, but she does drink blood...something of power in itself, taken unwillingly - She is said to be a powerful creature of unknown origins, but that doesn't mean that she isn't Asteri. They have chosen angel like bodies but that's not to say they true form is any different to what Amren was before she chose to be put in a fae body -> Could be grasping for straws here but it feels RIGHT

Ruhn looks like Rhys - are they related? - are Rhy's ancestors part of the original fae that went to Lunathion? After all, Theia and "her people were already in Lunathion" when the Asteri arrived (see next bullet to explore this) -> Funny how we don't know Rhys' last name. Could it possibly be... DANAAN?

Bryce and Ruhn's ancestors came from Prythian and ultimately, to the original world of the Fae - Rigelus mentions that Bryce's breed of fae came from a "verdant land, rich and magic". When Bryce lands in Prythian...what type of grass does she land on? "Verdant grass". - Rigelus mentions that Bryce's star of her chest is a "beacon to the world from which the Fae originally came" and that it will lead them back to that world..interesting that Bryce wanted to go to Hel, but ended up in Prythian

Theia came from the lost Dusk court / the Dusk court plays into it somehow -> Danika's project is called Dusk's Truth...coincidence? I think not.

Throne of Glass and Erilea are going to play into this cross over some how - Rigelus mentions that the wolves/shifters are fae but not from where Bryce's type of fae are from...but he does mention that they all came from a different planet where "all the Fae in that world shared their form with an animal" and they perhaps at one stage, "shared a world with [Bryce's breed of Fae" -> I can't keep a certain fae hawk, mountain lion and wolf out of my head - ToG has witches to...perhaps they also went through a rift to Lunathion -> SJM will have us ToG fans beating down her door if she doesn't do a crossover with our fav characters - it's happening and I refuse to believe otherwise

The horn is the fourth trove I´m so fucking sure about it now (had this theorie since the first cc book but now i´m just so sure about it)

Hunt is somehow related to Thurr? - I mean we ALL thought that the underking was Hunts father, but that theory is kind of dead in the water. Guy is an asshole and there was no recognition there - Bryce mentions many times he looks like Thurr, and his powers are similar...how are they connected? Son? Grandson? Timelines are unclear

Rifts are everywhere throughout SJM's books - does a lot of passing happen between worlds more than we are aware? I know Theia and her daughters figured out where all the rifts were in Lunathion, promptly closing them, but that doesn't mean there aren't rifts still open in our other favorite worlds...meaning crossing can happen a lot more easily than we think It would explain a lot of cross-over between linage and missing characters showing up in other SJM series

What do you think about these?