Kingdom Of Ash/House Of Sky And Breath Spoilers:

❗️House of Sky and Breath spoilers and theories part 2 becaus none of my friends read fantasy:

- as another tumblr user has already pointed out: Hunt‘s last line is really concerning, it was something like „and then Hunt knew nothing“ plus the Asteri told him Hunt wouldn’t need the slave crown so the only thing I can imagine is Hunt getting his memories wiped and when Bryce comes back she sees him fighting for the Asteri and I don’t think my heart can take this

- it will be great for the Quinlar tension though not gonna lie

- I don’t know if this has already been pointed out but I think the Angels might have been created by the Asteri. They are their loyal servants and they should keep the other Vanir in check

- ok so I love the gang BUT I have to say that they sometimes acted super stupid like thinking Madoc wouldn’t smell them, or going to that rebel island and showing everyone their faces or going to the Asteri archives and NOT getting suspicious when there is literally NO guard, no one….

- ok so do you think Prythian gang will know about queen Theia? And I also kind of want Bryce to meet the Autumn court just to say something snarky

- so Truth Teller is the second sword, which is really cool and interesting

- because I think Bryce will take both swords back to her world and after she finished whatever she has to do with them she will take Truth Teller back to Azriel and that would be the PERFECT start for Azriel‘s POV book

- soooo I think CC3 will be the next book we are getting and ACOTAR5 will be later, everything else would be confusing, so you could still read Acotar without having to read CC

- I‘m really not sold about the motives the demon princes have, I think Aidas truly loved Theia and would do everything to help Bryce but what about the others? Didn’t Apollion say Bryce and Hunt are his final end bosses? Does he want to invade CC?

- because why would SJM include Ari the dragon when she can kill demons and not angels or Asteri with her fire?

- plus I like it that magical fire is a universal way to kill demons (Queen Aelin did it first)

- I also think Bryce hasn’t accessed her full potential. She said so herself that she can feel her power source but can’t reach it so we still have to get a full power up of her!!!

- I really want to know more about thunderbirds because why would SJM include them when it’s a dead end anyways? There has to be more about it since Bryce and Hunt basically BOTH have the thunderbird ability to suck in energy and reuse it

- I wonder if it was just foreshadowing to that being the ultimate power one would need to destroy the Asteri since they killed all Thunderbirds OR

- if one of the characters we know has Thunderbird blood in them

- I said it before and I say it again, if I don’t get my girl Aelin in a CC book I will riot!

- ok so I had another thought and question, how do we define the different worlds?! Are they different dimensions/universes (I think that’s what they told us in TOG) or are they just different planets? In CC both terms got used

- I really really like Baxian, I will protect him and I hope he gets the love and affection he deserves

- sooo Ithan and the Fendyr Alpha, huh?

- since she is a mysthic I am positive that she will help guide Bryce through the worlds at one point

- I still know nothing about Jesiba, I wanna know so bad who or what she really is and why she keeps helping Bryce

- I sometimes wondered if the Viper Queen might be a Valg? Since she could control Tharion and it gave me major Dorian flashbacks

- Tharion… boy I love you but what went through your brain when you offered yourself to the viper queen?!

- So does ANYONE know how many books will be in the CC series? Because I feel like 3 books isn‘t really a lot time to overthrow a whole government of Asteri, even if Hel should help (and I think that not all of the Hel princes would simply help Bryce and then return happily to their world)

- I still think about the orcale and Rhun a lot, why would the royal bloodline end with him?! If Bryce should become queen (which I actually don’t think will happen) the royal bloodline didn’t end

- so I think ultimately CC will establish some kind of democratic government, I don’t see how kings and queens would fit in there without the Asteri tbh

- Cormac dying was kind of sad since I felt like he had a lot of potential

- do you think we will see the Avallen territory? It’s kind of still a mystery and I feel like they might hide something

- ok so that’s it for now lol

Just finished House of Sky and Breath. I'm just supposed to go to sleep after Sarah J. Maas broke me like that?...

Anyway, now seeking friends to discuss this with at length.

HOSAB x ACOSF - Amren & Fury

The comment that Amren and Fury have a very similar look - has me thinking about the possible connection between these two characters. I suspect it might be a seed SJM planted to connect their origin story.

First Amren....

We know that Amren is a being from another world. Her species was created by young gods - and they served as the soldiers for these young (and vengeful) gods. When Amren revealed her true form at the end of the ACOTAR trilogy - she is described as a firey-being with wings. This description is similar to an "Old Testament" Angel. The insanely powerful and wrathful archangels that rain down sulfur and brimstone - and wipe out entire civilizations.

We know from CC2 that the Asteri created the angels...and that they went through several prototypes of powerful "winged warriors" before getting to the angels that we have in Crescent City today.

I speculate that Amren (and her brothers and sisters), were one of the angel prototype species that were created by the Asteri, when they ruled over another planet in the universe. They were likely a prototype to the powerful archangels that rule over Crescent City, today.

I also thought it was telling, when the IC first saw Bryce at the townhouse...and Amren (Amren!?!?) jumped out of her skin. This is really out of character for her. Amren is unflappable. She's old as Hel....she's seen it all. There is no reason why she should be startled by an unknown Fae Female (even if covered in blood), while the rest of the IC's reaction remains pretty chill.

I think Amren reacted the way she did because she scented the blood - and immediately recognized it as Angel Blood. A blood type that likely smells very similar to that of her own kind. It would be a shock to smell a blood type of a species that by all accounts doesn't exist in your world...and one you hadn't scented for over 15,000 years.

Now, Fury....

We know that Fury does work for the Asteri, but that she's also an Independent Agent. The Asteri don't really seem to be in full control of Fury. This means she's either got leverage on them or enough power that she scares them a bit.

TBH...I think it's a mix of both.

Fury's power is currently unknown. But the way it's referenced is very similar to that of Amren. While people don't know exactly what she is - they do know she's super powerful. It's also a level of power that makes other super-powerful characters wary enough of her.

I think it's possible that Fury is the same species/comes from the same origin world as Amren. She is one of these original "Old Testament" angels, that was created as a "warrior" for the Asteri. And similar to her "sister" Amren she fell through a portal into the world of CC - where she coincidentally bound herself in a very similar looking humanoid form so that she could function and operate within the social constructs of this new world.

I suspect that the Asteri and Fury both know what each other are.

Fury is well aware that the Asteri are the same deities/creator-gods/masters of her homeworld. This is likely why she works for them. There may still be a part of her that feels that is her duty. She was created to be their vengeful warrior.

However, this is also what gives Fury leverage on the Asteri in CC. She is one of the few people who knows what they are and what they're doing to the citizens of this world.

As for Fury's power....Amren, when released had enough power to wipe out whole armies. If provoked, I think Fury could cause permanent harm to the Asteri, likely even killing 1-2 of them, before they were able to put her down. I think the Asteri created this "Old Testament" Angel species with a dangerous amount of power - never thinking that they might turn that power against their creators.

I also like the idea of Fury having the fiery power of an "Old Testament" Angel - because of her promise to one day burn down the meat market, for June.

HOSAB & ACOSF: Fae Legends

Dusk Court:

- Confirmation the legendary 8th court did exist and that it's likely the prison island. The pegasus originally hailed from this island. Therefore Bryce’s fan-girl fascination with Pegasus toys is a homage to the land of her ancestors.

Legends of the Fae:

- Theia was the Dusk Court’s Ruler. She became High Queen of the Fae when she wed the last High King, Fionn.

- At some point, Theia and Pelias (who was the High King's general) decided to betray (...or leave) Fionn.

- They stole Fionn's cache of weapons (the starborn sword, truth-teller, the horn, the harp, etc.). THen Theia, Pelias, and Theia's 2 daughters ran off to another world - using the horn and the harp to open the gatway. This world was CC. Theia and gang quickly figured out who the Asteri were - their old masters: The Daglan.

- Theia decides to join forces with the armies of Hel to destroy the Asteri. This is likely how Theia and Adias meet... and then fall in love.

- Pelais (who likely didn't like being replaced or demoted) decided to align with the Asteri. He killed Theia on the battlefield and then crowned himself prince by forcing the eldest Starborn daughter Helena to marry him.

- Jesibia's comment to Adias about “don't fuck us over this time” likely means that after Theia died, Adias and his brothers decided to take their armies back to Hel and leave Pelais and the Fae (as well as the rest of the people of CC) to fend for themselves against the Asteri. Obviously, that didn't end well. The people of CC are still fighting some version of this battle to this day.

- Helena was forced to marry Pelias against her will. Helena and her younger sister likely came-up with the plot to save the Fae from Asteri domination in both words.

- I think the "plan" was that Helena would remain in CC partly as a decoy, but also to use the horn to help close the gates into CC. Meanwhile, her younger sister sneaks off (into the night)....using the harp she travels back to their ACOTAR homeworld. Helena kept the Starsword and The Horn, but her sister got the dagger (truthteller) The Harp....and both travel back with her to the Dusk Court.

- The images Nesta saw when touching the Harp, are of the Fae in CC. They are trying to get back thru the gate into their ACOTAR homeworld – but there wasn’t enough time for everyone to make it through. Likely the Asteri were closing in. Thus the sisters used the horn and/or harp to close the access point. Some of the Fae were in fact trapped in the walls when this happened. Perhaps, this is the magical act that caused the island to die.

- Helena’s sister went on to close all the access points in the ACOTAR world. In Prythian the access points are likely the three mountains - The Middle, The Prison, and Ramiel. There may be others on the continent - maybe Koschei's lake? With the access points closed, Helena's sister had no way to return to CC. She lived in Prythian for the rest of her life.

- Given the resemblance that Ruhn and Rhys share....Theia's younger daughter likely became (through marriage) apart of the Night Court - and is Rhy's ancestor.

- Ruhn is a descendant of Helena. Rhys is a descendant of her younger sister. This is why they look alike.

- Theia's family name is Starborn. Helena’s last name was also Starborn – this is why in CC they’re known as "Starborn Fae".

- Rhy’s family name is Starborn!!! (It was passed on from the un-named sister.)

HOSAB SPOILERS

I’ve just finished CC2 and I have so many theories I need to get off my chest.

1 - I think the Asteri are the same species as the gods are in the ToG world. The ToG gods mentioned being trapped in the ToG world and wanted to find a way back to their home world which I tick is Midgard (CC world) and that the Asteri and the gods were all part of that plot to find food (??) but got trapped when the northern rift closed.

I don’t think they are Valg as the firstlight feeding thing doesn’t match what we learned about them in ToG.

Aelin didn’t send the gods back to their homeworld but instread trapped them in a hellscape where they were destroyed, which i think is Hel and they wee killed by the princes of Hel.

2-I hope we get to see the ToG characters again (even if its a little cameo). We now know that the shifters are descendants from the same Fae that Rowan and Aelin are and I think the witches are from that world too, from back in CC1 when they mentioned worshipping a three faced goddess like the watched in ToG.

3 - I think Queen Theia is the High Queen of Prynthia that was mentioned in ACOSF and she took Gwydion and Truth-Teller with her to Midgard. She had two daughters one of which is Ruhn’s ancestor who kept the Starsword (Gwydion) in Midguard which was thought lost in ACOTAR world. Theia’s other daughter went missing, I think she travelled back to Prynthia with Truth-Teller and either she herself or one of her descendants married a High Lord of the Night Court which is why Ruhn and Rhys look so similar. Truth-Teller could if been passed through the family line until Rhys or his father gave it to Azriel.

I have a few more theories about Bryce’s tattoo being written in Wyrdmarks and maybe the holy language Amren mentioned could be what her world called Wyrdmarks

I’m just wondering about everyone else’s theories .

Flynn and Ariadne giving me Nessian vibes

Nessian

Feyre my painting queen getting described as "lovely" by Bryce and everyone looking to her and Rhys for a cue because of their QUIET, GENTLE AUTHORITY 😭😭😭 im so excited to see them being bad bitches in the next cc

TOG characters as random The Office quotes

Aelin

Rowan

Dorian

Manon

Chaol

Yrene

Gavriel

Lorcan

Fenrys

Maeve

✨ some of MY OPINIONS on HOSAB ✨

SPOILERS AHEAD

• First of all, there’s just WAYYY too much going on. It felt a little too ambitious at times. too many plots, subplots and characters

• Bryce isn’t particularly likeable to me, she feels arrogant, selfish and refuses to take criticism or advice from others even when it’s valid. It’s her way or the high way. She’ll decide to do something and nothing anyone else says will sway her opinion, even when it’s clear to others and to the reader it’s a bad decision

• The others thinking Bryce could rule the fae at this point doesn’t make sense. She has no royal or strategic training, doesn’t think plans through, makes decisions mainly based on what she wants and the only moments I could see her fully taking charge was when the others compared her to her father. Someone who she claims she’s nothing alike/ wants nothing to do with yet uses his name and position to get her way, and cry’s ignorance once she has to deal with the consequences for her actions. She could get there someday, but I don’t think she’s ready for that comparison yet

• Cormac was a completely wasted character, he had so much potential and was just used by the others at every turn yet none of them really helped him. Bryce in particular messed him over

• Ruhn had the most growth in this book. He felt the most rounded out as the book progressed and his character was very endearing

• The Hind has become one of the most interesting characters now. No questions please.

• Bryce had no right hiding Emile from Cormac. That decision in the longterm is probably the right decision but Cormac, as Sofie’s partner, as someone Sofie died entrusting Emile to his care, had every right to at least meet with him once to check on him, tell him stories of Sofie and make sure he’d be cared and loved for before they took him away

• Danika began to feel like a tool to progress the plot or reveal information. It became almost a running joke for me while reading. The constant reveals about her past felt very heavy handed and it made it seem like Danika and Bryce where only surface level friends. They clearly loved each-other, but what did Bryce really know about her that others didn’t?!

• Ithan being in love with Bryce was a useless plot point. It didn’t need to happen, it has no impact on the story at all other than to make us and some characters feel sorry for him. He has so many other interesting plot points and characteristics and I think it would have been much more interesting to focus on his feelings of isolation after being cut off from the pack, and his brothers death, than it did for him to keep feeling bad about being in love with Bryce. Them having a more sibling esc relationship like they did in the first book makes much more sense

• A lot of the villains felt like the same person with a different appearance. Like okay it’s a war, there’s going to be bad people, but a lot of them, mostly the triarii, felt like Maas said ‘copy and paste’.

• I can’t even begin to describe my frustration with Tharion’s character. He was good for comic relief and I like him, but he had many outs he could have taken to leave the Blue court earlier, but ended up putting himself in an arguably worse of situation by the end of the book. His excuse of not wanting to leave his parents ended up being useless because he did it anyway

• Otters in vests… otters in vests!

• I did like how Maas showed the fanaticism on both sides of the war. With the humans and Vanir. It showed how at this point, there’d be no winners to the war and that everyone would loose either way

• The relationship between Bryce and Hunt felt unbalanced to me. It felt as though Hunt was constantly sacrificing, giving up and ignoring his own feelings and thoughts about things to go along with what Bryce wanted and what she decided was the right thing to do. Bryce didn’t seem to really take his advice or opinion into consideration when making plans, and I felt like there was a distance between them because of this. Again, they clearly love each other. But a lot of things Hunt said to her, concerns he bought up, went ignored. And him having self doubt when Bryce went behind his back to arrange the Emile situation, really hurt, because eventually he would have come around and wanted to help her but instead he felt ostracised.

• The constant calling men ‘Alphaholes’ when they voiced their opinion, acted a little defensive of those they cared about or said anything against the female opinion felt like forced feminism. It really said gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss.

• Based on the cliffhangers I’m nervous with the direction Maas’ work is going to take. I love her books sm but if she try’s to bring even more characters/ plots into Crescent City’s, I think it’ll become to much/ too overwhelming. And there’ll begin to be more plots left unfinished or bought to unsatisfying conclusions.

i have many more opinions these are just some of the main things i had issue with, it does feel a bit like a fu to Bryce, but I really had issues with her in this book :(