Slaanesh is the god of obsession and excess, first and foremost.
What is a Space Marine most likely going to become obsessed with? Battle.
A whole chunk of the legion probably went the same route as Eidolon, doing whatever off-the-rails experiments on augmenting themselves to become better marksmen or swordsmen or whatever else (side note: sniper marines aren't done enough as a concept). They didn't do this because they were worse than the average marine from other legions, they did this because they wanted to be better than everyone around them.
Also, in Fulgrim, we see how Space Marines react to arousal in the Maraviglia. What do they do? They start killing the people around them.
The Flanderization of Slaanesh is one of the worst things to happen to the Emperor's Children's characterization. Slaanesh is not the god of sex.
everyone thinks EC are pushover stupid self absorbed weaklings and I think if that’s how you conceptualize us hust because we like partying and body modification and music and drugs. if you think we aren’t still the poets and artists and musicians and composers and so much more under all that. Fuck you. Genuinely fuck you. I hate you. We’re not stupid we’re not stupid perverts can you please take us fucking seriously
The Emerald Wings
There is a reason my homebrew chapter is a Blood Angels successor.
I'm quite fond of femboy vampires in power armor with jet packs.
Waiiit, a minute...
Hmm...
Let me check something real quick, *ehem*
FULGRIM IS A LITTLE BITCH!!! JUST A STUPID FEMBOY!!! HE CAN'T DO ANYTHING AND HE ACHIEVED NOTHING, EVEN BEFORE CHAOS GOT HIS ASS!!! HE NEVER LOVED ANYONE!!!! PERTURABO IS A CHAD FOR BEATING HIM UP IN ANGEL EXTERMINATUS!!!!! FERRUS AND HORUS SHOULD'VE NEVER TRUSTED HIM!!!!
Finished painting the chapter master for my homebrew chapter today.
The model is 3d printed, with some parts having been edited a bit to fit (since they were originally for Terminator models). The STLs came from a kickstarter I funded last year, with parts of the captain, jump pack squad, and Terminator units.
Paint is a mix of Citadel and Army Painter, plus whatever the yellow I used for the eyes is. I will never not find it ironic that my homebrew chapter is a Blood Angel successor and the paint I use the most when painting them is Caliban Green.
He's intended to be used as a Dante proxy (since the Emerald Wings are a Blood Angel successor). I may or may not homebrew a datasheet eventually.
Reblogging because my response has become too long to put in the replies:
I don't think many people view the traitor primarchs as irredeemable, and I think the number among people who are well-versed in Horus Heresy lore is even smaller. They are, from the beginning, tragic characters. They certainly have their damning characteristics (namely hypocrisy), but they aren't really presented as irredeemable--we even have explicit statements regarding redemption for two of them (Big E says Mortarion can be redeemed in Godblight, and he outright forgives Horus in The End and the Death Vol III). I don't entirely agree with your interpretations, however. I don't think any of them are irredeemable (at least, not due to their own actions), but I think they miss some key details.
For all Angron claimed to be standing against oppression, he spent over a century expanding the Emperor's (extremely oppressive) regime. There's no moral purity shit here, either--Angron is pretty open about how he hates serving the Emperor even as he reduces worlds to ash in his name. What you said about Mortarion also applies to Angron, because of the Butcher's Nails. He was denied the chance to die with his family on Nuceria, and for the remainder of his life before daemonhood, the one thing he wants to do is die. And then Lorgar takes that away from him.
Mortarion's fall is because, first and foremost, he cared about his sons. Typhus brought the legion to Nurgle's garden, and infected them with the Destroyer Plague. Mortarion fell to Nurgle because he wanted to end their pain. Mortion is also a hypocrite. Like Angron, for all his claims of hating tyranny, he still expanded a tyrant's domain for a century and a half. (Corvus Corax is also on this list, but this is about traitor primarchs, not loyalist)
Magnus' guilt is very hotly debated among the community, and both sides have a point. On the one hand, he did the best thing he could with the information he had available. On the other hand, he was incredibly cocky, and did not have a concept of restraint. He believed he was in control, and he was too confident in that belief. (Side note: I despise the troupe of super powers being a stand-in for being queer (or any minority of any kind, for that matter)).
Fulgrim never said "fuck it, I'll have fun". His fall to Slaanesh was driven by his belief that, after killing Ferrus Manus, he was irredeemable. He's an addict; he isn't trying to have fun, he's trying to forget reality.
Everybody agrees that Big E mishandled Lorgar, and that's the most favorable interpretation for him. His argument on why he isn't a god is literal abuser language ("If I was a god, I'd use my psychic powers to force you all to kneel before me, like this" before using his psychic powers to force all of the Word Bearers to kneel before him). And all this ignores the shit Kor Phaeron did to him.
Horus is the spoiled rich white boy of the primarchs. He didn't fall because he was lost because dad was doing everything for him beforehand, he fell because he saw a vision of the future where he wasn't given the credit he thought he deserved. And then, like anybody else who grew up being told the world would be at their feet, he lost it. There's other issues as well, such as taxes (Terra wanted to impose heavy tithes on newly conquered worlds, which Horus opposed because it would cause them to rebel), but "gee, maybe I'm not ready" was never an issue.
Alpharius and Omegon believed that they knew the Emperor's plans better than he did, and threw in their lot with the traitors because they thought that if the traitors won, it would mean the end for Chaos.
Perturabo is someone who chose to suffer in silence and hope things would magically change. He never complains, and then is shocked when things don't go his way. I'm fairly sure he's also the primarch that people find the most relatable.
Konrad Curze was certainly mentally ill, and he was certainly denied the help and support that he needed, but I don't think he was abused because of it. He's also the kind of person who thought that if you publicly lynched enough jaywalkers, crime would go down, and that the Emperor sending an assassin to kill him because he committed treason and genocide was vindication for his belief that any crime warrants being skinned alive as a punishment.
They may not be irredeemable, but their hands are fare from clean.
I love how much of warhammer 40k is clearly a bunch of white dudes sitting around, thinking up the worst shit imaginable and going "thank god that could never happen to me, the cishet white guy"
angron is a one for one depiction of slavery, yet is painted as the bad guy for wanting to stand against oppression
mortarion is disabled and constantly has his decisions taken away from him by able bodied people only to be seen as moody and uncooperative
magnus is gay or trans or both. literally a guy blamed for something he was born with that he cannot control and told you're bad if you explore this part of yourself. also you're illegal now
fulgrim was actively encouraged to pursue perfection, despite never being good enough for others. he pushed any personal pleasure aside for an uncaring crusade and then is demonized for saying "fuck it, I'll have fun"
lorgar. also known as "this is why you don't abuse your kids"
horus is the golden child who's sent out into the world by himself only to find out Gee, Maybe I'm Not Ready because good ol dad did everything for him then told him "figure it out lol"
alpharius omegon are the autistic kids who don't understand why pops is doing this, maybe we should do things a little different than "blood soaked crusade"
perturabo is the burnout middle kid who did everything to impress his father only to be told "that's what's expected of you" who then got mad since acting out was the only way he got attention
konrad curze has a mental disorder. and is abused because of it
all of these characters were so close to being some of the best representation for minorities we could get in media only for gw to eat shit right at the finish line because they can't commit to an actual story. and it's amazing just how little these writers understand that the things they depict are all real things that people suffer through every day, and are demonized for every single day, especially when we are told these characters are irredeemable and should be destroyed, no questions asked
Fulgrim is now a creature of the Warp, meaning his mental state greatly affects his physical state.
The virus bomb left no lasting mark on the primarch, but Rylanor's own words, the "denial of (his) magnificence," very much did.
I know (I think) that Rylanor making Fulgrim ugly is a joke, but the entire ordeal left a scar on Fulgrim’s ego. According my knowledge, a daemon prince or primarch can change their form to anything, so Rylanor’s defiance and bruise on Fulgrim’s ego caused him to not regenerate quite right
I thought the Custodes were supposed to have the finest equipment the Imperium could supply.
did you know? the Sabbat-pattern helmet used by the Sisters Militant of the Adepta Sororitas was designed with a liftable visor so that they can kiss and make out with each other while wearing it (they may have to tilt their heads a little).
this is true and canon. verified information.
Starting a lore dump on my homebrew chapter (Yes, the blog is named after them)
Founded in the Eighth Founding, the Emerald Wings were one of a few chapters created at the time to carry on the legacy of Sanguinius.
Since their founding, they have earned a reputation for a mastery of aerial warfare, making heavy use of aircraft, skimmers, and jump packs. Aircraft and jump packs in particular are central to the Emerald Wings' doctrines, to the point where they are the biggest points of divergence between the chapter and the Codex Astartes.
Note: if there is anything here that is mistranslated, please let me know.
Yeah, so, it turns out things that are incredibly emotionally charged, such as war and mating rituals, generate a lot of art.
Actually, how are you aliens making art when you are so detached from things like that?
"Wait, humans have culture? Oh, sorry, no, I was just taken aback a bit. I don't mean to insult your species, you just all seem so constantly preoccupied with your warfare and mating rituals that it hadn't occurred to me that you would have time for the arts."
"Oh, no, we have plenty of art. Visual arts, sculpture, music, storytelling... And their combinations in all sorts of way. I actually play an instrument myself, and one of my favourite songs is based on an old folk tale. Would you like to hear it?"
"Absolutely! I was already astonished to only hear that human art exists at all, not to imagine that I could witness it!"
"Alright. So this is a song about a man who starts a war against his brother because they both want the same woman."
Google Astolfo.
If female space marines aren't canon then explain HER^
I like the idea of Dante being a perpetual. I think some needless cosmic cruelty really ties together all the grimdark.
Femboys, Warhammer 40,000, Battleships, and whatever else crosses my mind
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