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hi 👋

this is my spam account, i used to post art here but not anymore. I mainly just like and reblog here, with the occasional comment every now and then.

Happy Halloween! 🦇 (2020)

“Trans men can be misogynistic because they’re MEN”

No, everyone can be misogynistic because misogyny is not stored in the gender.

I think it's important to let guys be gender non conforming without telling them they're a girl, cause actually misgendering people is still shit even when you are pro trans. "You're a girl, an egg waiting to crack, and that's ok" how about you are a boy and a man and it's still ok if you want to do something that doesn't align with traditional ideals of your gender. You can still be he/him¹ in a skirt and makeup.

Edits:

¹ People in the notes are correct, He/Him does not exclusively mean male. However in my defence this was a personal rant. I did not expect it to break containment quite this much so this is litterally just first draft brain dribble. I stand by the principle that gender is personal expression and not a dictation. He/Him ladies and She/Her men can do what they want with their gender. And they can also rock traditionally feminine styled fashion if they want to.

TERF's however can fuck off. This is a pro-Trans space, and this post was inspired by watching people be so pro-trans they reinvent the gender binary, which is in large part due to over enthusiastic Cis people.

It actually genuinely upsets me how many people are in favour of censorship now. I guess censorship is somehow acceptable when applied to the right targets.

You can disagree with whatever controversial figure you like, that’s perfectly fine, nobody is forcing you to agree with what these people have to say.

But the moment you start calling for these people to be deplatformed, that is the moment when you are no longer in favour of free speech, but of censorship.

What happens when somebody that you actually agree with is censored? Will you stand by your beliefs that censorship is okay, or will you suddenly backtrack and be in favour of free speech again?

Free speech applies to all of us, whether you like it or not. Allowing assholes to have a voice is the price that we have to pay to make sure we retain that right.

Learning to delete/mute/block before a negative comment takes root in your mind is a modern survival skill. If you're going to wander the overgrown countryside of the internet, you need to develop a quick eye for ticks.

It's deeply tempting to respond to the "well, actually," to the cruel assumption, to the unjust accusation, to the odious viewpoint. It's tempting because you're defaulting to the etiquette of dinner conversation. This isn't a dinner conversation. Someone is shouting at you from a moving car. Turn away.

You’re never too old to collect figures.

You’re never too old to be in a fandom.

You’re never too old to play video games.

You’re never too old to listen to music.

You’re never too old to enjoy things.

What’s a fujoshi?

“Fujoshi” 腐女子/ rotten woman is a homophonous pun on 婦女子(fujoshi)/respectable wife, replacing the 婦/fu character for “married woman” with 腐 / “rotten” or “fermented”. [source] [source]

Where did the term originate?

“Fujoshi” was coined on 2channel specifically to complain about inclusivity in newer series, and lack of male gaze, ecchi, pantyshots and harem shows in the current lineups, blaming “fujoshi writers” for the ‘increase’ in gay anime shows. [source]

I thought Fujoshi meant rotten women, because they fetishize gays!

Fujoshi is a pun on the word “婦女子” (also read ‘fujoshi’) - which means “grown women” - where the “fu” character for “wife” is replaced with the “fu” character for “rotted/ruined/moldy”. The implication is that if a woman is not a wife or eligible for marriage, she is ruined and worthless. (kifujin, in contrast, is the term for a female BL fan who is married, despite this)

Fujoshi itself is always seen as ダメオタ (useless/broken/not serving its purpose geek) - the fact that they happen to like m x m is what makes them bad and unmarriable (because their interest in m x m means they have their own mind/fantasies and will not be a submissive, chaste, heterosexual housewife that exists only to please her husband, thus they are not serving their purpose and are broken). [source] [source] [source]

Then why do people call themselves Fujoshi if it’s a slur?

Like, historically, it started out as a slur used by mainstream Japanese fans against Japanese women who enjoyed BL as a genre. And let’s be clear - it was that the content was gay that made them trash, not the fact that it was poorly-fleshed-out gay content. It was later reclaimed by Japanese women as an affectionate identifier. So, like, right off the bat, it’s a Japanese term that we can’t just redefine into a slur again. I met a decent number of women over in Japan who will cheerfully call themselves fujoshi explicitly because they were like “what, this content you’re calling trash? These romances that you don’t think I should be reading? Yes, I love them. I don’t care if you call it trash. Fine. It’s my trash.” (The fact that it doubles as a homonym for “princess” helps too.) [source]

What about fujoshi that fetishize gay men? 

If you’re going to call out homophobia and “fetishization” (as in, objectifying), meaning, if you place actual real gay people on a pedestal; treating them as objects, seeing them as lesser than human beings, and shipping them without their consent; please do call it out. If someone is enjoying problematic BL content and they’re not hurting real people (as in not involving real people whatsoever), then there’s nothing to really argue about. Most “obnoxious yaoi fans” are young teenagers going through that shitty phase (akin to this western idea of a weeaboo/otaku phase or something like that), and if you calmly tell them to stop treating real gay people as objects, they will more than likely stop. There is no immediate need for hostility. And also, not ever obnoxious fan is like that, please look at things by a case by case basis before jumping the gun. Analyze the situation first. Again, call out actual objectification of real people, and not fictional characters. There’s a distinct difference between the two.

It’s not misogynistic to call out Fujoshi!

When you’re degrading women in your wokeness™, simply because you assume they’re cishet, and those people are “nasty” to begin with (sarcasm) (all because they ID as a fujoshi, enjoy BL, or like something you’re not into); not only are you being a misogynist, but you’re probably being transphobic too and most definitely homophobic.  Not all fujoshi who ID as such, are cishet women. Various people in the LGBT+ community (NB+Intersex, etc) use the term on themselves. To say that it’s only cishet women and that we’re all awful is erasure, which by the way – you’re contributing to.  It’s even worse when anti-fujoshi people shit on male BL fans (some of us call ourselves Fudanshi), saying we’re only pretending to be men, we’re all women, etc etc etc. There’s a lot of transphobia and trans-misogyny (and surprise, more homophobia!) involved in this discourse. Various people of all genders and sexuality enjoy BL, and if you’re going to erase their identity to justify your bullying and shitty ship wars – that’s not a good look for you, especially if you’re trying to “protect gay men”.

How am I being racist?

I understand that a lot of people, mostly Westerners, do not know the origins and history of Fujoshi. There’s a difference between genuinely not knowing vs. purposefully not educating yourself by continuing to spew the same anti-fujoshi rhetoric: [don’t be some of these people], [and this person], [this person too], [and the motherload of all things horrible], [oh sorry there’s one more I wanted to share] To deny facts and dozens of sources presented to you from Japanese speaking people and those who are Japanese themselves–  while also continuing to throw slurs, insults, etc in the same breath, is most definitely racist. You obviously think your opinion is more superior and that nothing else is worth listening to, despite the fact that you’re wrong. 

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Side note: Alternative terms to fujoshi/fudanshi

According to my linguist friend who specializes in Japanese:

Closest I can think of would be fujin 腐人, which takes away the gender word and replaces it with the word for person. It also acts as a pun in the same way fujoshi 婦女子 (grown woman) does with fujoshi 腐女子 (dirty woman/lover of BL).

(Fujin 婦人 means wife)

腐人 would basically translate to “dirty person”

Or in this case “a lover of BL/someone who dirties the work of the author” That is not a judgement of taste, but the closest linguistically that I could think of [source]

腐人 (fujin) (literally just ‘rotten person/people’) would probably be the most likely term, though 貴腐人 (kifujin) means “rotten noble woman”, specifically (and is used by older fujos) so exercise caution when using the term.

I’ve also used 腐系(fu-kei)/ rotten group, referring to groups of people who have fu-interests, however it’s a homonym with 腐兄(fukei) meaning rotten older brother which is used by fudanshis, so again you want to be careful when using the term. [source]

Some things in regards to Yaoi

Reminder that “yaoi” was originally called “aniparo” (short for “anime parody”) and refers to anime/manga parody doujinshi (fan comics) that takes characters (generally from popular shounen shows with a heavy homosocial background) and portrays them as being in love/having sex with each other as a way to satirize the common “no homo” and other homophobic messages that a lot of these earlier shounen series have/had, and, as a result of changing social climate growing to accept LGBT+ characters in canon over the past 30 years, yaoi doujin in Japan doesn’t exist in nearly the same capacity that it used to. [source] [source] [source]

As a gay man, I’m uncomfortable with BL and Fujoshi.

And you know what? That’s perfectly valid. Anyone being uncomfortable with certain works regarding BL and yaoi is fine. It’s how you present yourself in regards to the situation that counts. There’s some tropes I’m personally not a fan of, but I don’t hold it against people that do enjoy them. It’s just a personal preference, and as long as they’re not hurting real people, then there’s no reason for me to care. I would love to discuss BL with other people, what we like and don’t like, etc. without having to degrade fans of the series. There’s a lot to be said, and I think we can accomplish that if anti-fujoshis would stop acting like bigots.  And also, this whole “lmao as a gay man I’m telling you to”, or anything that implies that I have to listen to you with that shitty condescending tone of yours; no thanks. If you’re not going to show respect to someone (i.e anti-fujoshi in the fujoshi tag who threaten people, insult women, misgender trans people, etc. you know the deal), then there’s really no reason for anyone to respect you or your shitty opinion.  “Listen to queer men!” they say as we’re not a hive mind and have varying opinions; which is fine because the point here is to not force anyone into liking BL or NEEDING to get along with everyone. The point is that there should be a base level of respect and conversation that can continue without, you know, demeaning other people in the process. I definitely understand and push for the need that minority voices need to be heard, but if it involves stepping over people who haven’t actually hurt you, then there’s no reason for anyone to listen to you tbh Regardless, if someone is being awful to you for no apparent reason, you’re not obligated to listen to them either; it doesn’t matter if you’re a shipper, anti, whoever. I personally believe that I only give respect to those who treat me with such. If you’re good to me, then I’m good to you. I don’t put up with bullshit and neither should you. At the same time though, I know what it’s like to feel petty, but sometimes it’s better to be the bigger person and walk away. I suggest you do the same. Which brings me to another point: USE THE BLOCK FUNCTION. BLOCK. BLACKLIST. Tumblr literally has a feature for this everywhere! Abuse the shit out of it, you’re not OBLIGATED to see things you don’t like. This is how I’m able to tolerate Tumblr for all of the years I’ve been on here.  TLDR: “Stop fetishizing me!” = we more than likely don’t know who you are, and don’t even care to get to know you. You’re free and valid to feel whatever it is that you feel, but how you act on those feelings is what counts, and if it gets really bad, please use the block functions that tumblr has provided.

Representation

What made you come to the conclusion that everything you read in regards to BL and Yaoi are representation? I read Harada, suddenly I go, “Wow these abusive relationships are a reflection of actual gay people!”, no, that’s not how it works and if you blame both authors and readers – you should really be blaming your parents/caretakers and how they’ve failed to raise you. Fiction does not equal reality in the way you think it does.

If you’re upset with BL being made by “cishet women” for “cishet women”, then why not look into mangaka like Gengoroh Tagame? There’s something for everyone out there (and there’s actually a whole lot of fluffy BL out there; it’s not that difficult to find. I personally recommend Konbini-kun, by Junko). If you want to learn more, check out Rotten Boy’s Club, who has provided us with so much information on his blog (he even has recommendations! You’re free to ask me for some as well, if you want to).

There’s a multitude of reasons why people read BL! Some people think it’s hot, some people relate to it, some people find their identity through it, some people project, some people like it because they just do, and much more. If you take a look around, ask questions and I don’t know, maybe just talk to people, it’ll help open your mind up a little more.  I’m not here trying to say, “BL is perfect and everyone should read it. If you don’t then you’re wrong and I hate you.” If you happened to get that vibe from this page, then I’ll be frank: You missed the point and you’re more than likely part of the problem I’ve been discussing. The point of this page is to get people to stop misusing the term fujoshi, BL and yaoi by providing actual sources, and to stop people from being gross to one another. 

This post serves to act as a kickstarter for people to do their own research, as I’m tired of seeing terminology get twisted around. As I stated before, I am leaving this blog and it will be kept as an archive. But I still wanted to make my info page into an actual post, so that it could easily be spread around. Despite leaving this blog, I will sporadically make changes and I welcome additional commentary, though I probably won’t check it.  I’m turning my inbox off and will probably set messages to mutuals/followers only (whatever the hell that option is in the Tumblr settings). Thank you so much for your support, and please remember to take care of yourselves; no one is obligated to be here and your health comes first.  Special thanks to @rottenboysclub  and @freedom-of-fanfic  for providing so much information in regards to this compilation.  Small Disclaimer: Please do not harass anyone here that’s been mentioned. I feel like it should go without saying, but just a precaution. Don’t be that asshole.

"this person has problematic fictional interests/kinks!!!!" okay but how do they like. actually treat people. yall realize thats what actually matters, right?

liking something problematic in fiction/roleplay isnt an indicator of morality or being a bad person. your discomfort with someones else fictional interests doesnt say anything about who they are as a person.

Hot take: "this piece of fiction offended me, a marginalised person" doesn't mean "this piece of fiction inherently contributes to dehumanisation of marginalised people". Different people experience oppression and marginalisation differently. What's dehumanising for one person can be validating and empowering for other. Tropes one person find offensive could be a reflection of other person's lived experience.

For example, some gay men feel objectified by BL works but some other gay men actually enjoy BL, identify as fudanshi (male fans of BL) and relate to BL characters.

Some women hate "damsel in distress" trope, other women feel validated looking at a fictional woman whose value is not tied to her achievements, who is important and worth risking lives for her regardless of what she can or can't do.

Some abuse survivors believe any fictional depiction of abuse that's not all pain and suffering is romanticising it. Other abuse survivors such as myself experienced pain and suffering mixed with happy moments, genuine romantic feelings and great sex so "romanticised" abuse in fiction is an actual representation of my experience.

Please remember that your mileage may vary and being a marginalised person is not an excuse to advocate for censorship of all fiction you find offensive.

If your idea of “social justice” can actually be boiled down to “which group is an acceptable target”, you forgot about the “justice” part. 

An important thread by certified catboy.

Screenshot transcript: Whenever a new bl game or anime or manga or smthn comes out there's always ppl like "I better not see any women read/watch/play this" or "wait till the women get to this" and that is not the allyship to mlm u think it is. That's just misogyny. I say this so many times but you cannot have full queer representation and normalization in media without allowing EVERYONE to read and partake in it. I'm so tired of seeing this performative activism let people enjoy boys kissing. It's not fetishization until it's translated onto real mlm/nblm, by micromanaging who can read what queer media depending on their labels n shit is so sickening man, we WANT queer media to be enjoyed by all, not gatekept and further isolated from others.

Kera Magazine: Gothic Lolita Doll Catalog (2005)

Barbie Sketches by Robert Best 💖

I’m a little bit obsessed with these magical girl -esque weapons I saw on Mandarake. They’re sold, and I can’t seem to find the brand “Rameb” they’re listed as being from.. but I needed to save and share!

Links to listings: White Morningstar / Pink Morningstar  Nailed Bat / Studded Bat

Why yes I am thinking about halloween

Nakamura’s First Style Book

“Monotone Coordinate”

Nakamura’s First Style Book

this dress is everything to me

“Rose Rouge” by Yves Saint Laurent for Christian Dior, spring/summer 1958

From Kerry Taylor Auctions

I’m looking for a very specific image and I need some help

I know that the holy lantern advertisements featured two girls in this floating pose but I’ve only been able to find this singular image. The other was of the red color way in a dark gothic style room.

If anyone has it I’d really appreciate it because the magazine spread is so cool.

It might’ve been in a GLB or an angelic pretty collection preview.

Any help would be much appreciated!

💗りあむちゃん💗

Artist I Like Series

Junko Mizuno 1973 - ????  a Japanese manga artist. Her drawing style is often termed as Gothic kawaii or kawaii noir style.

I am kinda freaking out over how cool these are wuaaghhhhh,,,,

source

Dark Girly: the Sweet, the Bitter, and the Ugly

Dark girly... a term that seems to incite some sort of argument everytime it's mentioned. Some defend its position as a legitimate substyle, while others say it flat out doesn't exist in the Japanese sphere. I'd like to shed some light on the usage of dark girly in japanese SNS circles pre-2020, what constituted as dark girly, and where exactly does it fall in the lines of being a legitimate term.

Disclaimer: I will not be commenting on anything about jirai-kei and jirai culture, I am simply reporting on the existing usage of dark girly and other similar terms in Japanese SNS. I'll respect your opinion as long as you respect mine. If you have any problem with that then take it to the Japanese people who have used dark girly as a fashion/aesthetic term years ago if you seem to have no problem with taking it to english-speakers using dark girly.

First off, dark girly (ダークガーリー) has been used as an aesthetic term/descriptor even way back as 2013, with the example of Sugar Plum, a now defunct/inactive Japanese handmade shop that created accessories with a self-described dark girly concept. Their accessories featured edgy designs such as Kagome crests (not the Star of David) and crosses with some fantastical dreamy elements to tie in the girly atmosphere.

Though overall, dark girly was most commonly used by the jp fashion community to refer to the unique gothic-like girly styling that Larme sometimes used in their spreads, a morose, almost morbid style of girly kei that was bold and bitter (辛口) instead of mild and sweet (甘口) but still retained a dreamy "fairytale"-like quality (think Brothers Grimm).

But what exactly is dark girly? What makes a dark girly coord? Well girly-style.net (when it doesn't crash for non-Japanese users) defines dark girly as a gothic-inspired girly style, while lafary.net described it as a dark and dolly fashion with mysterious and cute clothes that give off a gloomy atmosphere. The characteristics of the clothing are majority black/dark colorways with little to no sweet colored accents, edgy gothic elements such as cross motifs (similar to things you'll find in gothic lolita), belts and harnesses, chokers, boots, but also accompanied with more romantic elements such as black lace and ribbons to keep with the girly style. Brands associated with the style are the likes of Jamie ank, Tsubasa Masuwaka's EATME, and Ma*rs.

The makeup is relatively bolder than the usual dolly makeup, dark eyeshadow and a deep red/wine colored lipstick is common.

The common view people have about this girly style is that it has a bolder impression than other girly styles. In Japanese fashion, there exists sweet or ama styles and hot/bitter kara styles. Girly kei usually falls under sweet, but dark girly is known for being more bitter with a dash of sweetness. If other girly styles are 75% sweet and 25% bitter, Larme is 50% sweet and 50% bitter, while dark girly is 25% sweet and 75% bitter. So when arranging a dark girly coord you need to consider the amount of "bitterness" you have, too sweet and it just becomes regular girly kei, too bitter and it stops being girly at all.

Now let's rip off the bandaid real quick, dark girly is not a mainstream term. Not as much as otona girly or french girly at least. While you will find a few Japanese articles presenting concepts along the lines of 「ダーク×ガーリー」 or 「ゴシック×ガーリー」, there is no universally agreed term for the girly styling referred to as dark girly. While ダークでガーリー and ダークガーリー are the most common descriptors people use for the style, other names and spellings people have come up with for the style are 黒ガーリー, 闇ガーリー, ゴシックガーリー but those are even rarer than dark girly. You will already have difficulty finding articles about dark girly as a solid girly substyle in Japanese, let alone in English.

But here's the thing, you will also barely find any substantial results looking up rokku gyaru and gothic gyaru, as there are barely any Japanese articles presenting rokku gyaru or gothic gyaru as solid gyaru substyles. Most of the usage of ゴシックギャル and ロックギャル is on SNS, where some gyarus use them as descriptors for their own style, just as jp girly wearers have used dark girly as a descriptor for their own style even if it's not a rock solid term.

I've noticed that there's this tendency in the overseas jfashion community to overcategorize things into separate substyles because they fear straying too much from the standard of a certain style to the point it stops being that style, so they try to make substyles to avoid any overstepping any boundaries of a fashion they might not be familiar with or have any authority over. Jp fashion communities tend to be more lax in terms of substyles (unless you're a lolita). Some choose to clarify they specifically like dark girly fashion, while others just say they like girly fashion even if they primarily only wear dark girly. This also applies to other jfashions like gyaru, decora, and gothic fashion.

So don't knock dark girly till you try it! You're not a poser for using dark girly as a term even if it isn't an "established" one.

Liz Lisa: レイヤードスタイルのオープンショルダーニット。

Liz Lisa: Layered-style Open Shoulder Knit.

official website.

Her outfits are so cool!! She reminds me of one of my characters

joan jett (2000-2006). you agree.

Sir Ian Mckellen for S.S. Daley Fall 2023 Ready-To-Wear.

some post: THE FOLLOWING USER IS A PEDOPHILE

me: ah what undesirable™ ship is it today

you have GOT to start acting like people online are also people