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Gochi Defense Post

I’m honestly tired of seeing the unnecessary hate some of the Vegbul fans from the western side throws at the Gochi ship. I was also asked on my thoughts about this situation and so I figured I’d make a post about it.

P.s. Excuse my english, not my mother tongue.

NOTE: all the points are taken from the manga,original Japanese sub and Shonen Jump magazines, plus some info from Jump heavy site, which got deleted around 2008-09 due to Japan’s strict content/piracy laws. I don’t recognise the older Funimation dub work and TFS (the makers already stated its parody but surprisingly, there are idiots who swore it as canon!) as canon. Other language dub like Brazilian, etc. and Funimation’s DBZ Kai dub work are much closely related to the Japanese sub and manga.

The bullshit this OTP gets from some of those immature Vegbul fans is fucking ridiculous! These asshats try to belittle the other OTP just to show how great theirs is by throwing nonsensical and utter shit.

And I’m seriously annoyed with these haters creeping on my blog and posting their rants on my posts.

For eg. like this one…

Saw this on Chichi and Gochi tag, and I was like WTF?! Do we even watched the same show or is the English/Funimation dub and whatever fansub they watched was that terrible or whoever makes/believes this kind of shit are plain dumb!?

First of all, this is pure bullshit and really, whoever made this are either they’re delusional or cat piss got in their eyes and got blind.

She prevents her husband from training??

Seriously, she had always, from the beginning allowed her husband to train as long as he works too sometimes (Both of them are farmers and its official. Established long before DBS and 2008 special). The only thing she tried preventing was not letting her 4 yr old only child to enter the martial arts world. And after seeing firsthand the dangers and damage her fiancé took from Piccolo jr in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai and King Piccolo and other villains while saving the world, she really got scared for her husband’s life.

But still, she doesn’t stop him from his earth saving duties whenever his friends and gods ask him to do it.

Though she still keeps worrying… about her husband and children, no matter how insanely strong they are because they’re her precious family and she loves them!

Now watch this exchange again and THIS part.

Just before this, Chichi is telling about how Goku should be getting back at his farming or just be home taking some much needed rest after fighting with a fierce Destruction cat god and their grandchild and all that, and then she walks over to the counter to grab his lunch.

Goku stammers something about training and you see Chichi’s arms come together (look at the still) and she says THIS LINE. Her voice is soft, but extremely little. She speaks this really softly.

She’s worried about him fighting because she doesn’t wanna see him hurt again!

Also you will notice something else if you stop being an immature hater. As Chichi says this, Goku’s arms go from his sides to what you see here. I don’t think he was scared of her since she was so far away from him, so it’s not a flinch. It’s almost like he was going to go comfort her cause he saw how quickly she was caught in a sad thought.

These two are so in synch despite their little differences it’s crazy.

Throughout the series Chichi worries, from the 23rd tournament to the entire series! And even in the Battle of Gods movie again her mannerisms are again repeated – from her cute,sweet demeanour to her worrywart ways over her family (her precious husband included) and her strict motherly instincts to ferociously guarding her Goku-sa! Even Goku’s worries and feelings are shown for his wife and children, including his grandchild. As recent as DBS episode 43 and more.

May I also add that this scene is also in the highlighted important and romance part of the battle of gods promo along with vegeta getting angry at bulma-beerus slap scene.

From : here~

And in episode 14 of Dragonball Super. But that scene was really not stressed out as a certain ‘goku x veg and bul x veg’ fan was in charge in the storyboard and got carried away with tsundere Vegeta x Goku moment… -______-; Again in the movie, Chichi runs to Goku… in Dbs, Vegeta runs to Goku.

From Kami to Kami scenes -

DBS Ep 14

(Toriyama strongly said he wrote the script, fucking writing the entire thing himself when he didn’t like the previous story. The previous story didn’t even have Goku cuz it was written by Vegeta fanboy! Before you guys shit on Toriyama, atleast remember he didn’t cut out Vegeta like Watanabe did! And was put together as team mates and equal in the 2nd movie. Son Goku is the main part of Dragonball series, you can’t just replace him with anybody else. Its like asking Ichigo be removed and making Renji to lead in Bleach or Naruto to be lead by the tsundere Sasuke…)

If you really study their interactions, tone and body language, their love is evident.

She never makes a fighting gi??

Well,surprise look at these.

She does not only makes her husband’s gi but also other stuff too, like sweaters. But if you haters gonna neglect these episodes as “fillers” than Bulma making an armour episode is also a “filler” episode. And for the record, Chichi may not be able to make an armour because she doesn’t have a factory like Bulma has. Also the kind of battle Goku and the rest of the Z warriors gets in… an armour like that is totally useless.

She often yells at her husband both in public and private??

Oh really~ but Bulma doesn’t!?? Let’s see, Bulma not only yells but also openly insults him too. And does it in front of others too.

Some egs from the series, didn’t include gifs from entire android, cell and buu arc cuz the post is getting too long. Also, in Kami to Kami (Battle of Gods) movie and in DBS too, especially Ep 17, remember saiyan wives club? xD

No need to take just one example and turn a blind eye to the rest of the shit your otp has and to over throw the other couples and go around spreading fake shit about them.

Plus, Toriyama stated he doesn’t like weak females (this is the reason he didn’t like kid Chichi as she was first characterised as a very shy and timid girl and when he brought back her into story, he changed her into a beautiful, head strong tomboy and as an education minded mama.) and so he created women that he felt were not only “beautiful and sexy”, but also “strong”. Including all the main females - Bulma, Chichi, Videl (LOL, somebody in Toei’s DBS storyboards are messing her characterisation big time) and 18.

Also, his preference for strong and beautiful women are projected in our favourite saiyans wife preference as recently as in DBS!

Check this photos here - http://camlost737.tumblr.com/post/139698764796/hexerya-weve-both-got-strong-willed-wives and http://hexerya.tumblr.com/post/139481731114

And there are these and very inaccurate, cringe worthy fanfictions.

And for Kami’s sake, no need to bash the canon couple just because you ship non canon stuff.

You can go ship your crack ship without going around ranting bullshit on the canon couple. I ship some crack ships too like but I don’t go around spewing hate and fake interviews!

Thus bringing more nonsense like these,

Goku just doesn’t understand love the same way Vegeta does. Vegeta had parents, and got to be raised a lot different then Goku. Goku was never taught how it works so he’s clueless too it but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t try. And the man said “might not” which is not saying anything canon.

Even if he doesn’t have a sense of family that does not mean he doesn’t love his wife or his children. Goku was raised without a lot of things that most children get, so even if that “Doesn’t have a sense of family” statement was said, it would only mean he didn’t get to have a sense of family because he can’t remember having a mom or dad, he didn’t get that love and attention. That’s what they mean by him not having a sense of family. JFC. People sure like to make up their own shit and take things out of context. Saying he doesn’t love the family he could easily LEAVE and ditch if he didn’t love them or cared for them.

Honestly, a lot of online people are terrible. “Doesn’t have a sense of family” if you actually think for five seconds it’s obvious that means he doesn’t have the best idea of how to be a family since he never learned how, he was basically fighting all his childhood. So it’s saying Goku has a hard time knowing what expressing his love means. He knows how to do it and does love his family, and is learning from them what a family is and how it IS different from fighting and food and how it’s supposed to be treated. Goku thinks just saying Hey I like you! Is enough because that’s all he ever learned, but little by little he’s learning the true meaning of family and what it means to have a wife and kids. He learned NOTHING about that sort of stuff in his childhood.

But slowly and surely, he learned and he most definitely loved them.

Takes really painful death just to save his only child twice but gets called shitty names! its kind of sad to see so many here talking crap about him just like that… :(

I mean he isn’t the perfect father of the year, by the way he was brought up… he never had parents in his life (unlike vegeta, bulma), his adoptive grandparent died really early in his life… and he was practically raising himself alone in a forest!

And lets face it, his friends (bulma, krillin, yamcha…)at first part of the manga were all just using him to either use his strength to get something or save their asses.

And if he asked something even about normal things because he’s a curious child… he would be yelled at or called names instead of teaching him nicely!!! (they were all aware of his childhood… kinda sad, upbringing even then they were a**holes to him.)

Master Roshi’s way of education was horrendous (reading from porn stuff only!). The only education that helped him in anyway was from Kami and Mr popo.

Yet, even though he never had a family in his life early onwards but he still makes up and tries to be a good father as best as he can. He coddled his first child so much that Piccolo and even Gohan himself, had complained against it!!!

And his children actually love and looked up at him. But there are (weird) people here and in fanfiction.net, that are hellbent on proving how much Gohan and Goten hates him canonically to the point of coldblooded murdering him??!!

Now, Goku and Chichi are two people who are both strong (mentally and physically) understanding and kind and pure hearted, plus they’re both young and attractive. (Yes, little Goku was naive and didn’t know anything about sex BUT PLEASE LOOK at the series, especially in th 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai arc and the manga and you’ll notice all the changes about Teen Goku. Yes, he’s matured and is fully aware about many things including sex.) They had an arranged marriage and over time, they’re in love and both developed a really strong bond and raised a beautiful family, even with all the unnecessary stress and shit from evil assholes interrupting their peaceful lives from time to time. But he ALWAYS comes back to them and is repeatedly showed that he has special place for his family in his heart. And too many examples are also there throughout the entire series, including DBS too, where his wife and children LOVES him and has great pride in him. LOL. Best load of BS I’ve ever heard from these haters. If you’ve seen the scenes with him/chichi or read the manga then you know full well he loves her AND his kids.

Some people are so stupid. SMH.

Always twist the meaning of interview words and spread it like wildfire! And even going as far as shitting on people who are fans of Gochi :/

And the so-called “force marriage”?? Like can you get any dumber when you accuse Chichi as some evil bitch who manipulated Goku into her evil plan and raped him?!!

LOL, read the manga from the START and FYI, the Dragonball series starts from when little Goku is introduced not from in the middle of when Radiz shows up. (Saw some so-called dbz fans stating Dbz is the original and DB is NOT canon like Dbgt, LOL just because Funimation aired Dbz first in America! *cough*idiots*cough*) Also, Toriyama drew Goku and Chichi riding the kintoun/nimbus as adults, so there goes your evil theory down the drain.

Many in the western world find arranged marriages to be funny and sometimes repulsive and regard Asians as traditional stuck ups. But I believe there are two sides of a coin. Both arranged marriages and love marriages have their pros and cons. Its not like love marriages work 100% and LOL too many of them are plagued with infidelity and shit! Seen statistics where the divorce rate is nearly 50% in western countries like America.

Whether it is love or arranged, trust, understanding and commitment is what drives towards a successful marriage.

I believe that the term ‘love marriage’ is a misnomer – is it that arranged marriages are devoid of love? Of course not! In fact, all marriages are an ‘arrangement’ between two people, with a promise to ‘love’, the bond grows stronger as they already understand each other.

Yes, at first he had no idea what is parenting and family life’s gonna be like. Yet he continued and learned throughout the time and from the way his family loves and adores him, he established that he is indeed a good husband and father… overcoming all the obstacles.

This got way longer than I thought but there are still some points left… but I’ll stop here today.

Learn to appreciate your OTP and respect other OTPS because whatever couples are made by Toriyama, not just in Dragonball but also his other series, are all endearing and adorable even with the tiny hints of romance. As he himself said he’s shy of romance but that does not mean he hates it.

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toraskiii

4 years ago

Just had time to think through my request in more detail: I once saw this doujinshi where Chichi was sick and Goku was watching over her all worried, and he kisses her while she's sleeping and gets all embarrassed when she wakes up, but she smiles all happy. I don't know if you've seen this, since it's been on Tumblr a couple times, but how about turning that into a fic?

AuthorNotes: It’s a cute doujin. Hopeit’s cool what I did with this. I,uh, just kinda went with something.

Pairing/Characters:Goku x Chi-Chi, Gohan,Goten, Pan

TimePeriod: before End of Z

Words:1,139

Rated:K / G

Title:Your Presence

“Allright, Pan, I think the flowers look good now.”

“Flowerswill help Grandma feel better, right?”

“Mmhm.Let’s let her rest some, though.”

“Okay!Can we play with Uncle Goten now?”

“Sure!”

“Hey,don’t tell her yes without asking me first.”

“Awc'mon, Goten, you know she-”

Thevoices faded, slowly disappearing, growing muffled with the squeak ofthe door closing. They needed to fix that door. Once she was wellenough, she’d make sure to get Goku or one of the boys to get to workon that. Once she was well.

Fornow, Chi-Chi simply wanted to sleep off the sickness. It didn’t seemto want to leave her alone. Sickness at her age was harder to shakethan when she’d been younger. Back then, a day of rest would be allshe’d need. Now, it’d been a couple days at least and she was stillfeeling under the weather. Enough to be confined to the bedroom, toldto rest all day long.

Itwas a little annoying, but there wasn’t much she could do about it.Accept her fate and stay in bed. At least the kids came by to visit.Bringing her grandbaby by was nice to see, and the flowers were sothoughtful.

Eyesclosed, Chi-Chi tried to let the thoughts drift away. Tried to letsleep take her. She needed rest. But, oh, she just wasn’t reallytired.Itwas a little difficult to fall asleep when the body wanted to sit upand do more, even if it was more than it could handle right now.

Pressurepushed into the side of the bed, and she tried not to smile at thewarmth she could feel near her legs. Chi-Chi didn’t know a thingabout how to sense kior whatever it was the boys did all the time. But she had beenmarried to Goku long enough to recognize when his presence was in theroom. He was quiet, but he didn’t seem to want to leave her side.Even when the kids were in, he’d been hovering somewhere behind them,no doubt. And now that they were gone, well, he leaned against thebed.

Asthe days passed and her illness stayed, Goku spent more and more timeat her bedside. Not really speaking. Trying to let her sleep. But shecould sense him. Almost feel that presence. Warm. Comforting.

Sweet.

He’dalways been one to freak out a little when she was sick. The firsttime she came down with something when they were married, early,early into their marriage, he had panicked about every little thing.As if he wasn’t one to get sick often. Or he didn’t know thedifference between something mild and simple compared to a seriousdisease. She almost laughed at the memory.

Almost.

Afterall, she was trying to sleep. She shouldn’t be laughing.

Ofcourse when he’dbeen sick, he’d been like a whiny child. Thankfully, he didn’t getsickoften. And the worst, the heart virus, was long past. One of the mostfrightening moments of her life.

Shewasn’t sick with anything crazy like that. Just a simple cold. Alittle summer fever. Her body had a hard time fighting it, but shewas sure it would pass in time. At the very least, it didn’t seemto be getting worse. She promised to tell the boys at the first signif it did.

Nope,it was just a matter of waiting it out. And resting as she waited.Theheat in her face was certainly something she could do without. Andthe aches in her joints. Oh, she didn’t like coming down withsickness at this age. It was no fun. Not that it was ever fun, but,well, this felt worse somehow.

Pressureon the bed shifted. Goku must be changing positions. Like his handwas pushing down on the bed next to her or -

Warmthhit her mouth. Nice, warm lips touching her own. She froze foramoment, wondering why he was kissing her when she was sick. Sick andsupposedto be sleeping.

Didhe do that often? Catch her when she was asleep? The little rascal.That was no fair. How many times had he done thatto her? She didn’t like the thought of missing out on Goku’s kisses.His sweet little pecks weren’t exactly rare commodities, but theywere special to her all the same.

Blinkingher eyes open, she managed to catch him red handed this time. Hiswidening eyes and growing blush showed the truth, too, that he hadbeen sure she was sleeping. He almost looked a little guilty, like akid caught stealing a cookie before supper.

“Ah,Chi-” Hisvoice cut off, eyes glancing to the side, hand going behind his head.“S-sorry.”

Sinceshaking her head would have been a horrible idea – she didn’t wantto do anything that would compound the headache she was currentlysuffering – Chi-Chi instead made sure to smile. Wide and open andeven give him a light giggle, too. Her voice, when she finally workedthe dryness out of her mouth, came out raspy and soft, but there wasno doubt in her mind that he’d be able to hear her weakwhispers.

“You’rereally worried, aren’t you?”

Hisblush grew, continuing to rub at his head. “Uhm. I can’t help it. Idon’t like it when you’re sick, Chi-Chi.”

Smilingagain, she reached up to touch his cheek. It was so cool compared towhat she was used to. Goku usually warmed her up. But, she supposed,the sickness made her skin a higher temperature than even his normalstate. Herarm shook a little as she rubbed at the blush on his face. She didn’treally have the strength to hold it up for long, but resting againsthim would be fine, especially if he pressed his hand over hers likethat.

“I’mfine,” she whispered. “It’ll pass.”

Gokuhummed, lightly stroking the back of her hand with his thumb. “Youthink?”

“Mmhm,”she hummed back. “You can kiss me again if you want.”

“Areyou sure?” He asked, even as his eyes lit up a little. “I thoughtyou needed to sl-”

“Justkisses,” she warned. “And make sure you don’t get sick either.”

Gokusmiled, leaning down to whisper against her lips. “I’ll try notto.”

Slowlyand gently, he brought her hand down to the bed, squeezing lightly ashe connected theirmouths for the second time. Theyshared a few more sweet kisses before she gave in and said she reallydid need to sleep. But, as she closed her eyes, Chi-Chi felt hispresence hovering by her bed, and she was confident that he’d stay byher side well through the night.

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toraskiii

4 years ago