Thinking About Sumire In Pq2 Again

Well, I guess you didn't have much of a choice either

Advice I could have used a long time ago

I’m begging y’all not to engage in culture wars. It will ruin your mental health and your perception on the internet. And it will fill your feed with uneccesary drama.

If you see something that makes you uncomfortable, just block it.

uh oh!! spotted!!!!

Okay I know this is old but there are a lot of problems here that i have to address

Number one, you do not kill the shadow character. That's basic Jungian symbolism which the entire series is made around. You can never fully rid yourself of a shadow only accept it and integrate it

How is akechi a shadow character again? This is a pretty strong assumption about his role and character and I fail to see how it holds water if we are to argue through series traditions shadows are based on the repressed inner qualities of a person which begs if akechi is a shadow what sort of repressed trait does he reflect akechi’s goal has been to kill shido and last akechi the game has not subtle about how jokers life has been affected by shido nor has it been secret about how much we want to take him down

Yes akechi is a foil to joker and the phantom thieves but to claim he is a shadow character is a very large stretch that I fail holds any water if any character that role it would most likely been maruki his goals do align with the inner conflict regarding on weather they are justified in changing the hearts of others for the benefit of others

Number two, the phantom thieves did not condone Goro's actions obviously, but they were all during the fight and in the aftermath completely willing to sympathize with Goro and bring him bac into the group. It's weird to make a game about sympathizing with the outcasts and then just decide to exclude the one victim who wasn't a GOOD VICTIM TM, especially since in the last game they let Adachi live for some reason.

While you aren’t wrong in asserting that the game is about sympathizing with the outcasts this is only half the message a consistent theme throughout the story and social links is seeking justice for those who are a victim of those who abuse their power considering most of the phantoms thieves and confidants are victims of someone in power in someway or another

I’ll dive more into how this relates to akechi later on

Also neither the phantom thieves or the investigation had any intention of killing akechi or Adachi the reason akechi died was cause of outside interference

Number three, Persona 5 Royal did a lot of things to fix Akechi's social link which is super rushed even though he's supposed to be Joker's greatest foil in the game and meant to reflect him and understand him on a deep emotional level but it's almost worse because it tempts the audience with an idea of Akechi surviving the final dungeon something the fans wanted and then has him die a second time. There's literally no reason to kill him or make his death ambiguous when you're making a game that is a 1.5 patch of the first game because the first game was rushed out.

The only reason akechi is alive in the third semester is because of maruki who made it so that akechi is alive for joker and akechi has made it clear he would rather die than have his own existence be under someone else’s thumb so this ignores the reason for his second death so if you’re going to ignore his own motivations and character in the third semester then

Number four, he was literally all primed for redemption. He was screaming about how he wanted to have friends. His only desire was to have a true sense of justice rather than being a fake detective. He is one hundred percent aware of his flaws. Joker, the main hero of the story is deeply invested in him living and wants that redemption for him too. And then they just kill him.

Since you decided to lecture us on basic jungian psychology I’m gonna lecture you on basic storytelling

The whole point of akechi’s death is giving the thieves and the player more incentive to stop shido

Remember what I said about how it’s about seeking justice for victims of those in powers this is where it applies here

Akechi is a victim of shido much like the other thieves and confidants and the players are allowed to sympathize with him this even comes up again in the pre fight dialogue with shido with the thieves holding akechi’s death against him

Therefore since we the player now know what akechi’s been through and have witnessed shido murdering his only son we now have a stronger drive to stop shido now with the motivation of avenging akechi and honoring his sacrifice

If you’re going to argue this writing decision undermines the themes the story I fail to see how this holds water without ignoring the context behind the scene in question

Since akechi dying to his abuser and his death being used as motivation to stop said abuser certainly makes it hard for me to believe this isn’t sympathizing with his abuser

The way they kill him is dumb too, the phantom thieves are just about ready to get through to him and then a clone of Akechi shows up to shoot him in the head. THEY MAY AS WELL HAVE A PIANO DROP ON HIS HEAD IT WAS SO RANDOM. 

Ugh this is by far the worst one

It has been established that shido’s cognition is more advanced than the others to the point his own cognitions can serves as guards and minions for him plus it has been revealed that shido was completely aware of akechi’s plan to kill him as well of his own plan to dispose of him once akechi served his purpose

If your going to ignore details that are made clear throughout the game I have to question your talents as a literary analyst

Persona 5 or Persona 5 Royal?

Neither, because I cannot forgive Persona 5 for the cardinal sin of killing Goro Akechi their best and most interesting character. It's a decision that makes absolutely no sense for the story.

Number one, you do not kill the shadow character. That's basic Jungian symbolism which the entire series is made around. You can never fully rid yourself of a shadow only accept it and integrate it.

Number two, the phantom thieves did not condone Goro's actions obviously, but they were all during the fight and in the aftermath completely willing to sympathize with Goro and bring him bac into the group. It's weird to make a game about sympathizing with the outcasts and then just decide to exclude the one victim who wasn't a GOOD VICTIM TM, especially since in the last game they let Adachi live for some reason.

Number three, Persona 5 Royal did a lot of things to fix Akechi's social link which is super rushed even though he's supposed to be Joker's greatest foil in the game and meant to reflect him and understand him on a deep emotional level but it's almost worse because it tempts the audience with an idea of Akechi surviving the final dungeon something the fans wanted and then has him die a second time. There's literally no reason to kill him or make his death ambiguous when you're making a game that is a 1.5 patch of the first game because the first game was rushed out.

Number four, he was literally all primed for redemption. He was screaming about how he wanted to have friends. His only desire was to have a true sense of justice rather than being a fake detective. He is one hundred percent aware of his flaws. Joker, the main hero of the story is deeply invested in him living and wants that redemption for him too. And then they just kill him.

The way they kill him is dumb too, the phantom thieves are just about ready to get through to him and then a clone of Akechi shows up to shoot him in the head. THEY MAY AS WELL HAVE A PIANO DROP ON HIS HEAD IT WAS SO RANDOM. 

Meeting your idol

A shame we never got to see more of these two and their bratty-imp- sometimes-demonlord partner. 😞

Yeah I think you’re pretty much dead on with the characters

Man Rise’s dungeon is the most brutal so far. I think she’s the least stable Investigation Team member…

Yosuke: “This town is really boring and I feel guilty over seeing the murders as something to do because my dearest friend and crush is dead and I wish I could’ve saved her and I feel like my boredom devalues my care for her”

Chie: “I wish I didn’t like having this sense of power in my life and getting it from my best friend, it makes me worry I’m a bad friend and taking advantage of her despite how much I love her”

Yukiko: “As much as I love my family I wish they didn’t push the family business onto me without giving me a choice, makes me feel trapped, maybe someone can help me? Or am I trapping myself by not communicating?”

Kanji: “People are alienating me because I’m a guy who likes sewing and are weaponizing homophobia against me… I don’t know if I’m gay or straight or what, I just want to be able to be me in peace without others seeing me as lesser”

Rise: “I can’t drop the mask for a moment I can’t drop the mask for a moment they’ll turn on me if I don’t I have to be nothing but a toy for their entertainment I can’t drop the mask I can’t drop the mask I can’t drop the mask”

Good grief… Yosuke’s #2 in instability. Man…

what a bad dog!

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Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure(ive been like halfway through part 5 for lke months now lmao)

Gurren Lagann

Metal Gear Solid

Fire Emblem(especially since Fates is out in a few days!!!)

Pokemon

Xenoblade Chronicles

Smash Bros

Persona 3 and 4

The Legend of Zelda

Splatoon

just video games in general